The Velocity Of Chad

[Cheeky_James]

@Cheeky_James "have you read the book ‘Blink’ by Malcolm Gladwell?"

He spends a few hundred pages celebrating the alleged virtues of mistaking our initial impressions for Gospel Truths, and not surprisingly, damned near all of his assertions crumble under even mild scrutiny

he cross references neuro science research and fmri studies etc I believe, from memory. I don’t know how this can be that it crumbles. It’s been a while since I read it. Pretty sure it alignes with scientific research . Studies , papers. Etc it’s got credentials

the Halo Effect is an acfual thing? via studies.

“first impressions last..”
“ you don’t get a second chance to make a first imoression “ etc etc

these are very old adages And truisms for a reason.

im wondering what is your mental block to this notion, and why.

For example. If you were to meet a guy that looks just like Robert Redford in his prime. You can’t help but assign him similar values . It’s just the way the mind works to stereotype and shortcut .afaik.

 

[OngBak]

As someone objectively handsome and having a friend circle who consist of handsome People, I can tell you for sure the responses will be polarized: You will get negative + positive attention, some girls will grab your arm, sexually harass you, some will frame you as bad, dirty looks, gossiping, eye-****ing you.

Sometimes it can be overwhelming when a group of girls decide to deal with you by providing negative attention, in that case they would sometimes even recruit Whiteknights and Beta Males and reward it by making them feel good and attractive just to play with your mind.

You will also have to deal with a lot of jealousy, envy and guys trying to compete with you even if you aren't competing. People will go out their way do downplay and humble you even though you are humble.

It is one of the reasons why Attractive People are mostly loners or hangout with other good looking guys.

Here how it can look like with negative attention, which I witnessed myself:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JEzJNwkLwjo

 

[OngBak]

If a guy is a Pretty Boy, he’ll likely get tested /tooled by other dudes. As he looks ‘soft’.

if a guy is Handsome he’ll likely be treated as an Alpha Male by other dudes and notsomuch.

both will have problems with other GL alpha type guys who assess them as competition for women. As mating is a competition.

someone mentioned masculinity - @Thebestthereeveris. A very handsome and fit Alpha Chad type guy is akin to a ‘thoroughbred Stallion.’ His looks are top tier ‘masculine’. So everyone will project ‘masculinity’ onto him, from his looks.

and he will likely be highly masculine, and alpha in his behaviours. As he comes from a long line of such men. Most likely. And will be born into an upper class. So this all nexes your points unfortunately.

Baron- you keep pushing this idea for some reason.
There is plenty evidence of all of this in the Real World.

lesser looking dudes have to work harder …and that’s just the way it is.

have you read the book ‘Blink’ by Malcolm Gladwell? He lays all of this out in detail re ‘Value’ , Thin Slicing etc.etc

Pretty boy and handsome guys are equally tested, only the degree on how they are tested can vary: handsome guys may be tested more passive-aggressively and pretty boys more overt, but it depends on your demeanor and physique f.e if both are jacked, more likely to be passive aggressive, but it doesnt exclude overt disrespect. It will still be there

 

[Cheeky_James]

Pretty boy and handsome guys are equally tested, only the degree on how they are tested can vary: handsome guys may be tested more passive-aggressively and pretty boys more overt, but it depends on your demeanor and physique f.e if both are jacked, more likely to be passive aggressive, but it doesnt exclude overt disrespect. It will still be there

yeah true. Agree w that.
Pretty Boys I’d think of as having less of a physique .. like a Timothy Chalamet type. Maybe a Harry styles type. Yknow Slim / lean moreso. Then they get bullied / challenged by the Alpha Jocks. As per high school type stuff and situations .

 

[OngBak]

yeah true. Agree w that.
Pretty Boys I’d think of as having less of a physique .. like a Timothy Chalamet type. Maybe a Harry styles type. Yknow Slim / lean moreso. Then they get bullied / challenged by the Alpha Jocks. As per high school type stuff and situations .

Yeah Id put those celebrities into pretty boy category as well, but I wouldn't really say that someone who is Alpha challenges them. Alphas aren't insecure at all. When me and other of my friends see someone outside who is good looking, we already know they have to deal with lots of bs and with what kind of bs. There is some kind of relatedness, mutual respect and unsaid recognition among good looking People, so we know.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Pretty Boys I’d think of as having less of a physique .. like a Timothy Chalamet type. Maybe a Harry styles type

If a fella chooses to be a metrosexual, he has no one but himself to blame

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

As someone objectively handsome and having a friend circle who consist of handsome People, I can tell you for sure the responses will be polarized: You will get negative + positive attention, some girls will grab your arm, sexually harass you, some will frame you as bad, dirty looks, gossiping, eye-****ing you.

Sometimes it can be overwhelming when a group of girls decide to deal with you by providing negative attention, in that case they would sometimes even recruit Whiteknights and Beta Males and reward it by making them feel good and attractive just to play with your mind.

You will also have to deal with a lot of jealousy, envy and guys trying to compete with you even if you aren't competing. People will go out their way do downplay and humble you even though you are humble.

It is one of the reasons why Attractive People are mostly loners or hangout with other good looking guys.

Here how it can look like with negative attention, which I witnessed myself:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JEzJNwkLwjo

Absolutely! Getting your bvtt slapped, having a lady grab your clothes and pull you, etc... And then, when you literally did NOTHING but get grabbed, some dude who isn't even with her has to attempt to verbally intimidate you or try to goad you into fighting. lol It's a thing! I never put two and two together on this until I was in my 30's. I just thought it's what always happened.

 

[corrector]

As someone objectively handsome and having a friend circle who consist of handsome People, I can tell you for sure the responses will be polarized: You will get negative + positive attention, some girls will grab your arm, sexually harass you, some will frame you as bad, dirty looks, gossiping, eye-****ing you.

Sometimes it can be overwhelming when a group of girls decide to deal with you by providing negative attention, in that case they would sometimes even recruit Whiteknights and Beta Males and reward it by making them feel good and attractive just to play with your mind.

You will also have to deal with a lot of jealousy, envy and guys trying to compete with you even if you aren't competing. People will go out their way do downplay and humble you even though you are humble.

It is one of the reasons why Attractive People are mostly loners or hangout with other good looking guys.

Here how it can look like with negative attention, which I witnessed myself:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JEzJNwkLwjo

That video link, lol The guy looked like he was possessed.....forgot his meds?

 

[Cheeky_James]

If a fella chooses to be a metrosexual, he has no one but himself to blame

or his stylist. Or rather team of stylists.
These celebrities don’t dress themselves.
They are the trendsetters of the fashion world, in vogue etc then the hipster PrettyBoy boys just copy those looks from them.

btw remember we had this debate a few months back re Gossip Girl actors? Chase Crawford etc.
Have you seen CCs list of hot ex GFs vs the other guy?

It’s a thing dude and can be seen in the real world.
For these PB types. ‘Personality’ does not even really matter that much, if at all. They are quite rare % wise among men. And super high value cos of it. What is rare, is extremely valuable.

Women have ‘pliable frames’ - they will mould themselves around such guys personalities.
The same way guys will adapt theirs, to a super hot high value chick. And allow her to run the show.

Btw. who was the narrator of romance/smut novels for women, you put up in that debate? . I wanna check him out again. Great sexy voice, be a good study . Cheers CJ.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Yeah Id put those celebrities into pretty boy category as well, but I wouldn't really say that someone who is Alpha challenges them. Alphas aren't insecure at all. When me and other of my friends see someone outside who is good looking, we already know they have to deal with lots of bs and with what kind of bs. There is some kind of relatedness, mutual respect and unsaid recognition among good looking People, so we know.

What? Competitive alphas always try to challenge/ one up/ dominate other guys? As that is what being Alpha is all about? An Alpha is the most dominant male of a pack. He doesn’t get there by being respectful of other dudes. He puts them in their place in the pecking order / social totem pole if he can.
I don’t think there is any of that relatedness, mutual respect and unsaid recognition between good looking strangers in the dude world at all usually. Most social situations are a competition not a co-operation. As mating is a competition to get the best mates.

sometimes there is an alliance , or respect here and there. But it’s not the norm. There are moreso False Alliances usually.

 

[OngBak]

What? Competitive alphas always try to challenge/ one up/ dominate other guys? As that is what being Alpha is all about? An Alpha is the most dominant male of a pack. He doesn’t get there by being respectful of other dudes. He puts them in their place in the pecking order / social totem pole if he can.
I don’t think there is any of that relatedness, mutual respect and unsaid recognition between good looking strangers in the dude world at all usually. Most social situations are a competition not a co-operation. As mating is a competition to get the best mates.

sometimes there is an alliance , or respect here and there. But it’s not the norm. There are moreso False Alliances usually.

Thats not an Alpha you are describing, you basically defined a grandiose narcissist, they can appear that way, which is performative and deeply rooted in insecurity.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Thats not an Alpha you are describing, you basically defined a grandiose narcissist, they can appear that way, which is performative and deeply rooted in insecurity.

I love this take and how ppl say this to frame someone who can dominate - ‘oh it’s deeply rooted in insecurity’…

As if it matters where it comes from. They have the skills to dominate regardless. And if they dominate they are Alpha by definition. Unfortunately.

 

[BaronOfHair]

or his stylist. Or rather team of stylists.
These celebrities don’t dress themselves.

They could easily refuse or persuade their stylists to do otherwise + Choose to NOT be Soft Boys... The knowledge is out there

Just for starters. We frankly went through something like this back in the late 2000s, when androgynous guys who could've passed for Dachau survivors fell out of popularity, and beef cakes fell back into fashion https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/apr/05/david-gandy-male-model


"btw remember we had this debate a few months back re Gossip Girl actors? Chase Crawford etc.
Have you seen CCs list of hot ex GFs vs the other guy?"

No, I haven't, and given that we were discussing which of these fella's FICTIONAL characters was more widely lusted after (Chuck Bass vs The Other Schmuck), the point still stands... Looks aren't especially valuable, WITHOUT possessing a virile edge

"Btw. who was the narrator of romance/smut novels for women, you put up in that debate? . I wanna check him out again. Great sexy voice, be a good study"

Aiden Snow

 

[Cheeky_James]

They could easily refuse or persuade their stylists to do otherwise + Choose to NOT be Soft Boys... The knowledge is out there

Just for starters. We frankly went through something like this back in the late 2000s, when androgynous guys who could've passed for Dachau survivors fell out of popularity, and beef cakes fell back into fashion https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/apr/05/david-gandy-male-model


"btw remember we had this debate a few months back re Gossip Girl actors? Chase Crawford etc.
Have you seen CCs list of hot ex GFs vs the other guy?"

No, I haven't, and given that we were discussing which of these fella's FICTIONAL characters was more widely lusted after (Chuck Bass vs The Other Schmuck), the point still stands... Looks aren't especially valuable, WITHOUT possessing a virile edge

"Btw. who was the narrator of romance/smut novels for women, you put up in that debate? . I wanna check him out again. Great sexy voice, be a good study"

Aiden Snow

well… the soft boy thing sells obviously , it’s in demand by women? It’s been around since .. whenever . Idk what else to say. I guess they are marketed at teenage girls who prefer their men softer. Or just want the option of both more accurately. The soft boy 3 weeks a month, the masculine guy for their ‘horny week’. That’s probably the most accurate explanation,
(Fvck , Im a genius lol)

Machine Gun Kelly was an interesting mix of traits of the soft boy and the bad boy imo, him and Megan Fox were the thing for chicks at one point. Idk . It sells.

yes it was a debate re fictional characters from a chick TV show. Indeed. But , the point is , in reality any dude that looks like CC , would not have a personality like his character on the TV show. lol,
Cos dudes that look like that,,,,, get heaps of pvssy offers IRL.

Related to CC - I loved his character in The Boys , the aquaman guy, closer to reality I’d say for guys like him.

thanks for the info re Aiden Snow.
I’m gonna try emulate this guy for sure .
Cheers CJ.