"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Some movies about playboys every aspiring Don Juan ought to check out imho.

- Don Jon (Joseph Gordon Hewitt)
- Alfie ( Jude Law)
- Spread ( Ashton Kutcher)

that is all.
Anyone else got recommendations? Cheers.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't think any movie or TV show is a good model for learning seduction.

The seducer is as good or bad as the writer wants them to be, just as with the willingness of the women who surrender to them.
well..I’d disagree
i recommended those 3 flicks as thats the pickup game for real life Don Juan’s.
known a handful IRL. Pretty much the same.
Useful for awareness, the general simple
process and setting expectations.

I was gonna ask you a question actually BPH.,as your profilePic reminds me of Joseph Hewitts character in Don Jon ..and ur posts indicate regular success at pickup..is it as easy for you as Jon in this clip?


for real life DJ’s it’s ‘all in the eyes’ as they say.
They are mostly pretty boy/sexy faced guys I’ve known. And chicks give them fvck-me eyes everywhere. It’s goes exactly like the movies above.
 
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well..I’d disagree.
i recommended those 3 flicks as thats the pickup game for real life Don Juan’s.
known a handful IRL. Pretty much the same.
Useful for awareness, the general simple
process and setting expectations.
So if I were to follow the example of Don Jon, I should use my numerous connections and friends to find and stalk a woman I met at a club via Facebook so that I could invite her out to tell her she was the "most beautiful thing I'd ever seen", and then dry hump her outside her apartment until I finished in my pants.

Just as in Hitch, or Extract, or Californication, or any other movie/show, the characters are only as good at the thing as the writer is. Ever seen the show Billions? These are supposed to be multi-millionaire hedge fund managers, and the dialogue reads like it's straight out of Reddit.

You wanna watch something to get better with women? Watch a guy pick up a girl from a bar.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So if I were to follow the example of Don Jon, I should use my numerous connections and friends to find and stalk a woman I met at a club via Facebook so that I could invite her out to tell her she was the "most beautiful thing I'd ever seen", and then dry hump her outside her apartment until I finished in my pants.

Just as in Hitch, or Extract, or any other movie/show, the characters are only as good at the thing as the writer is. Ever seen the show Billions? These are supposed to be multi-millionaire hedge fund managers, and the dialogue reads like it's straight out of Reddit.

You wanna watch something to get better with women? Watch a guy pick up a girl from a bar.
I edited my post with a clip from Don Jon (the club pickups) and a question for you.

well dude that’s just the dramatic storyline. And example of how the ScarJo character plays Jon.
IDK You can if you want to?

The process of pickup was the point I’m making, and it’s the same in each movie for all 3 DJs. And it’s the same for real life DJs.

Real DJs are pretty boy/sexy faced head turners for women.
Interested Women just give them the blatant ‘fvck-me eyes’. After that it’s pretty simple. Banter/Pass a few tests , bit of fluff talk and comfort , then extract to a location and fvck.

that’s it.
So is it the same for you BPH in bars and clubs?
 
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So if I were to follow the example of Don Jon, I should use my numerous connections and friends to find and stalk a woman I met at a club via Facebook so that I could invite her out to tell her she was the "most beautiful thing I'd ever seen", and then dry hump her outside her apartment until I finished in my pants.

Just as in Hitch, or Extract, or Californication, or any other movie/show, the characters are only as good at the thing as the writer is. Ever seen the show Billions? These are supposed to be multi-millionaire hedge fund managers, and the dialogue reads like it's straight out of Reddit.

You wanna watch something to get better with women? Watch a guy pick up a girl from a bar.
Lord loves a working man.
Never trust Whitey.
See a doctor and get rid of it.
 

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I edited my post with a clip from Don Jon (the club pickups) and a question for you.

well dude that’s just the dramatic storyline. And example of how the ScarJo character plays Jon.
IDK You can if you want to?

The process of pickup was the point I’m making, and it’s the same in each movie for all 3 DJs. And it’s the same for real life DJs.

Real DJs are pretty boy/sexy faced head turners for women.
Interested Women just give them the blatant ‘fvck-me eyes’. After that it’s pretty simple. Banter/Pass a few tests , bit of fluff talk and comfort , then extract to a location and fvck.

that’s it.
So is it the same for you BPH in bars and clubs?
Having watched the clip, I'll quote this post to respond to both your questions.

To answer your first question, no, it is NEVER that easy. Gorgeous women are never in clubs by themselves/left alone without friends. Furthermore, women like that wouldn't be caught dead in a club like the one in that film - that place is damn near empty. Women like that are usually skipping long lines, hanging out in some guy's section, or dancing behind the DJ. They are rarely accessible, and wherever they WOULD be wouldn't allow for this eye contact unless they were standing right next to each other at the bar, waiting for their drinks.

They also rarely dance like this. Grinding is just something they do with their girlfriends to post on Instagram. The only time you'll really see that post-college is if they're already dating/f***ing.

As for whether it's the same for me, yes and no.

I'm a good-looking guy to the point where I've had a modeling contract with a New York agency (didn't get any work, so take that how you will), I'm 6ft tall, and around 215-220lbs. I get looks, sure, and when they're from attractive women, I know how to capitalize on that and approach. However, I'm not outstanding...

I'm not super tall. I'm not well-known. I'm not famous or high status. I'm certainly not rich. I've seen what that looks like...I had a friend who's 6ft 7inches, good-looking, and an overall great guy. I'd go out with him and catch women staring at him in awe - I rarely get that treatment. His shortcoming is that he has to be plastered to drum up the courage to talk to women. My success comes from my ability to do what he can't.
 

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Having watched the clip, I'll quote this post to respond to both your questions.

To answer your first question, no, it is NEVER that easy. Gorgeous women are never in clubs by themselves/left alone without friends. Furthermore, women like that wouldn't be caught dead in a club like the one in that film - that place is damn near empty. Women like that are usually skipping long lines, hanging out in some guy's section, or dancing behind the DJ. They are rarely accessible, and wherever they WOULD be wouldn't allow for this eye contact unless they were standing right next to each other at the bar, waiting for their drinks.

They also rarely dance like this. Grinding is just something they do with their girlfriends to post on Instagram. The only time you'll really see that post-college is if they're already dating/f***ing.

As for whether it's the same for me, yes and no.

I'm a good-looking guy to the point where I've had a modeling contract with a New York agency (didn't get any work, so take that how you will), I'm 6ft tall, and around 215-220lbs. I get looks, sure, and when they're from attractive women, I know how to capitalize on that and approach. However, I'm not outstanding...

I'm not super tall. I'm not well-known. I'm not famous or high status. I'm certainly not rich. I've seen what that looks like...I had a friend who's 6ft 7inches, good-looking, and an overall great guy. I'd go out with him and catch women staring at him in awe - I rarely get that treatment. His shortcoming is that he has to be plastered to drum up the courage to talk to women. My success comes from my ability to do what he can't.
Oh true. You’re tall friend is a real life *possible* Don Juan then, he just needs to learn to approach(?) and capitalise on his looks. it would be that easy for him then.

I’ll guess he can pull hotter chicks given his height.(?)

Hmmm.. ime, from the guys I’ve known, it’s pretty much the same as those 3 movies. Chicks scope them out across the bar .. they just look around and have 2-3 options usually. Then just get close and wait for the moment to open. Or the chick opens them.
My old best friend and housemate was a natural/DJ. He was medium height , slim, had the sexyface and eyes. It’s was sickening to go out and about w him. So many chicks scoping him walking down the shopping streets. Pulled a hot chick almost every weekend we went out clubbing. Sickening. All the while he had a scorcher of a girlfriend at the same time, “ah well, I’m only young once” he’d say. Haha. Or “I just love women I can’t help it”.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Another I met last year at my job, worked on my team. 25 yo athlete 6.5” tall . I recall talking to him about his partying on the Football Grand Final Day.
He went to a bunch of different house parties and on to bars n club at the end of the night. He smashed 4 different chicks that day. Sickening!
 
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Basically any James Bond movie.

Ian Fleming's work in Britain's Naval Intelligence during World War II, including involvement in covert operations, heavily influenced his spy novels. Bond's tastes (martinis, suits, etc.) mirrored Fleming's, and the character was a composite of agents and commandos he knew.
 

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Another I met last year at my job, worked on my team. 25 yo athlete 6.5” tall . I recall talking to him about his partying on the Football Grand Final Day.
He went to a bunch of different house parties and on to bars n club at the end of the night. He smashed 4 different chicks that day. Sickening!
The only way I have smashed 4 chicks in a day is by going to a red light district. :rolleyes:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The only way I have smashed 4 chicks in a day is by going to a red light district. :rolleyes:
:D
‘HookerMaxxing ‘?
That still counts right? lol.

Yeah I’ve mamged 2 occasionally but no way 4.
Sickening.
 
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Having watched the clip, I'll quote this post to respond to both your questions.

To answer your first question, no, it is NEVER that easy. Gorgeous women are never in clubs by themselves/left alone without friends. Furthermore, women like that wouldn't be caught dead in a club like the one in that film - that place is damn near empty. Women like that are usually skipping long lines, hanging out in some guy's section, or dancing behind the DJ. They are rarely accessible, and wherever they WOULD be wouldn't allow for this eye contact unless they were standing right next to each other at the bar, waiting for their drinks.

They also rarely dance like this. Grinding is just something they do with their girlfriends to post on Instagram. The only time you'll really see that post-college is if they're already dating/f***ing.

As for whether it's the same for me, yes and no.

I'm a good-looking guy to the point where I've had a modeling contract with a New York agency (didn't get any work, so take that how you will), I'm 6ft tall, and around 215-220lbs. I get looks, sure, and when they're from attractive women, I know how to capitalize on that and approach. However, I'm not outstanding...

I'm not super tall. I'm not well-known. I'm not famous or high status. I'm certainly not rich. I've seen what that looks like...I had a friend who's 6ft 7inches, good-looking, and an overall great guy. I'd go out with him and catch women staring at him in awe - I rarely get that treatment. His shortcoming is that he has to be plastered to drum up the courage to talk to women. My success comes from my ability to do what he can't.
true
 

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that’s classic,
Very real what Raphael’s friend is telling him.
In the video clip, Raphael tries to fashion-max (to compensate) by wearing a suit, and it still doesn’t work. He gets ignored by women and mogged by the tshirt guys. Absolutely spot on accurate/realistic.

For other movies, I would add “Can’t But Me Love” for its silly but realistic portrayal of social proof and reputation within a social circle.
 
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American Psycho with Christian Bale- Main Character shows extreme alpha qualities with his pick of women (at his expense)

Talk Dirty To Me- displays successful mode one hardcore approaches/same day seductions (Where Alan Roger Currie got his inspiration)

Vince Vaughn in the first scene of 4 Christmases goes from mode 2 nice guy with boring small talk, until she emasculates him and he flipped a switch and grew a backbone and turns her on with direct communication.

 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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