What would it take you to get married?

[The Duke]

For those that are on the fence or anti-marriage, what would it take for you to get legally married?

An air-tight prenup? Zero financial risks, whats yours when you entered the marriage is yours when you leave? A contract like a lease agreement that defines the terms, penalties, defaults?

That ship has sailed for me. I like my freedom and independence too much,not that I wouldn't treat a serious relationship the same as a marriage. I would do a live in girlfriend but a marriage feels like I am being controlled. I'm not interested in dividing expensive assets, and writing a check to make someone go away. She can stay at my place for free, but she won't get any parting gifts when she leaves.

I've split assets after a divorce, I've bought out my last girlfriends part that she contributed to dollar for dollar plus a "shut the fuhk up and kiss my azz" bonus check.

I don't see how a marriage benefits me? Maybe I'm too rational. lol. Its easy to see how a marriage benefits a woman. I don't see how it benefits a guy that is financially independent and doesn't need anything.

 

[Free_Agent]

Equal - greater assets & income would be a great start. Hard to find unless they’re divorced and took half

 

[BadBoy89]

For those that are on the fence or anti-marriage, what would it take for you to get legally married?

- Has to be of age to get pregnant easily
- Has to put every paycheque in the middle of dining room table and say "I want to share my life and grow with you"
- If she wants out without having kids, she gets a Diet Coke
- If she wants out with having kids, I'll give her a cheque based on pre approved amount. Kid stays with me
- She cannot nag or complain

 

[plumber]

a marriage does not benefit the man unless she is a queen and then you will be king.

it is a contract. today in the west the man can not enforce the contract. the woman can enforce it and sometimes even if its not signed.

by nature of the contract your accountable for her protection, yet she has no enforceable duties (modern western law). its the same as signing indentured servitude without compensation.

other cultures it might be ok, if she is accountable to the contract.

NOTHING about it will cause you to be more happy regardless of enforcement.

you might be happy if she continues to earn your protection and you enjoy giving it. marriage will break that dynamic.

 

[Randall Stephens]

For those that are on the fence or anti-marriage, what would it take for you to get legally married?

An air-tight prenup? Zero financial risks, whats yours when you entered the marriage is yours when you leave? A contract like a lease agreement that defines the terms, penalties, defaults?

That ship has sailed for me. I like my freedom and independence too much,not that I wouldn't treat a serious relationship the same as a marriage. I would do a live in girlfriend but a marriage feels like I am being controlled. I'm not interested in dividing expensive assets, and writing a check to make someone go away. She can stay at my place for free, but she won't get any parting gifts when she leaves.

I've split assets after a divorce, I've bought out my last girlfriends part that she contributed to dollar for dollar plus a "shut the fuhk up and kiss my azz" bonus check.

I don't see how a marriage benefits me? Maybe I'm too rational. lol. Its easy to see how a marriage benefits a woman. I don't see how it benefits a guy that is financially independent and doesn't need anything.

The problem @The Duke is people no longer see marriage in its essence. They see it as a game to be won; not a partnership that benefits both exponentially, and why the thought of it not being enduring even enters the consciousness. And perhaps maybe because the advantages of being humble and loyal to a mate is hidden from us, we, as the people, no longer know how powerful those relationships can make a people and a society. To not only have that forbidden knowledge AND apply it would make you VERY dangerous to power-hungry leeches. Any wise man who wants to prosper in freedom for life would keep it to himself, to avoid making himself an open target for governments and nations to take potshots at and hopefully get rid of before his influence and power became too much to off him.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Badboy,
"Kid stays with me",Mate it almost never works that way.

 

[Vanderdonck]

100% acceptance of who I am and what I want in life. Which is what I have.

Not the same as unconditional, just total acceptance. She can leave if it's not for her.

 

[Divorced w 3]

The problem @The Duke is people no longer see marriage in its essence. They see it as a game to be won; not a partnership that benefits both exponentially, and why the thought of it not being enduring even enters the consciousness. And perhaps maybe because the advantages of being humble and loyal to a mate is hidden from us, we, as the people, no longer know how powerful those relationships can make a people and a society. To not only have that forbidden knowledge AND apply it would make you VERY dangerous to power-hungry leeches. Any wise man who wants to prosper in freedom for life would keep it to himself, to avoid making himself an open target for governments and nations to take potshots at and hopefully get rid of before his influence and power became too much to off him.

Where did you go?

 

[DJ Novice]

I was married for 20 years.

The only reason I did so was to have children and raise them in a stable environment.

While I didn’t have a prenup I did ok financially post divorced. In hindsight I should have gotten a prenup but where I live in Australia they are not 100% legally binding.

Unfortunately the price of being married and raising children especially over a long period of time is usually divorce. Just don’t be naive thinking it won’t happen to you (I fell into this category).

If I didn’t want to have children I would never have gotten married. Now I’m divorced and in my late 50s I will not get married again. I would strongly advise other guys the same.

Having said all that if I could go back in time I wouldn’t change a thing. Having children was the best thing I’ve experienced in my life to date and far outweighs the negatives.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Ehhh just take the risk gents. People act like this life can be safe until the end. Just ****ing plunge sometimes. People think life is so much better getting handies in Thailand in your 50s. Sure, that's fine if that's what it has come to but for F's sake, doesn't anyone see the glory in Fatherhood? Strong familia, power, mastery and respect (good frame in marriage) is all possible but you have to be ready to apply all the lessons we've learned. A lot of us that have been exposed to this info early on in life, it's time to grab the torch, take ownership over women and family. What's the point of all this badass redpill awareness if we are just gonna get a visectomy and hide in some cave to occasionally jizz on some slvt's face once in a blue? Where is the passion? The willingness to Make Family Great Again?

The older guys who got into the game late in life and are divorced is one thing. But what about us young guys that saw the train derail and spent years studying this sh*t? Is our destiny to fizzle out without leaving a mark?

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

I think for me to get married:

- ideally virginal young chick or low body count
- space away from the city/control my network and strongly influence her network (no basic B's or feminist type friends)
- Very strong boundaries against in-laws or anyone who tries to encroach on my territory
- Super strong frame
- religious community w/o women who try to brainwash my girl due to jelousy and envy
- setting expectations early on w chick
- prenup
- She has to trust my guidance/leadership for the family - no disrespect in front of kids or in general

 

[Glassguy]

My current gf makes as much money as I do. She has a doctorate degree and common sense to boot. No wild spending as she is not high maintenance with material things. Heck I make way more bigger purchases than her.
So if we were to grt married, there isn't much of a financial risk other than if we built a house and I'd have to buy her out or vise versa.

 

[Manure Spherian]

For those that are on the fence or anti-marriage, what would it take for you to get legally married?

An air-tight prenup? Zero financial risks, whats yours when you entered the marriage is yours when you leave? A contract like a lease agreement that defines the terms, penalties, defaults?

That ship has sailed for me. I like my freedom and independence too much,not that I wouldn't treat a serious relationship the same as a marriage. I would do a live in girlfriend but a marriage feels like I am being controlled. I'm not interested in dividing expensive assets, and writing a check to make someone go away. She can stay at my place for free, but she won't get any parting gifts when she leaves.

I've split assets after a divorce, I've bought out my last girlfriends part that she contributed to dollar for dollar plus a "shut the fuhk up and kiss my azz" bonus check.

I don't see how a marriage benefits me? Maybe I'm too rational. lol. Its easy to see how a marriage benefits a woman. I don't see how it benefits a guy that is financially independent and doesn't need anything.

The primary purpose of marriage WAS to establish fatherhood. It is not reproduction, child raising, or sharing a lifestyle.

So I don’t see why a man who doesn’t want to be a father would get married. And it’s certainly not for men who want freedom and independence, much of which is sacrificed for family.

Men who just want to f— or who don’t desire permanence with one woman, don’t want to be fathers, shouldn’t get married.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I don’t know what it is, but the idea of a woman not wanting marriage, just puts my antenna up.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The legalization of polygamy

 

[Manure Spherian]

and writing a check to make someone go away.

What would have you do this?

I am being controlled

How?

I’m asking seriously.

 

[Travel memoir21]

The legalization of polygamy

Lol convert to Islam or mormonism brother, problems solved.

 

[obelisk]

I really can't see getting married again unless it is to have kids with someone sufficiently young enough to have a good chance of success with her. A slew of other factors and every situation is unique as well but I see no real upside benefit to marrying a women in her late 30s+ regardless of how much I like her. The way marriage is being framed and thought of by women currently makes it a very risky investment for men.

 

[Beyond It]

If you can demonstrate even one upside, I will ponder it a little.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

• Must be okay with a prenup
• Must be feminine, agreeable, and sincere
• Must be on birth control (ideally a copper IUD, at least until I get a vasectomy), and must be ok with never having kids
• Ideally comes from a stable family and at least halfway decent relationships with her parents (but I have some leeway here)
• Doesn't mind sleeping in seperate rooms
• Has a good, stable, boring career where she isn't surrounded by thirsty men in intimate settings or forced to be a boss bvtch (ideally something like a dental hygenist or accountant; worst being a lawyer or nurse)
• Has her own hobbies, friends, interests, and isn't too extroverted
• Isn't materialistic; ie doesn't mind a more minimalist lifestyle

There are probably some other things I'm not even aware of, because I've never even lived with a woman before, so that's just off the top of my head.