The bar is low

[Gamisch]

I have seen this hardcore with one of my friends. I wonder if he was ever red pill. This is a man who put up a triple digit notch count prior to marriage and then transformed into a typical beta male. I think he always had that blue pill ideology, but he was able to cover it up well enough due to his looks

This is an extremely underrated topic. We hardly ever hear or talk about men went from red to back to blue, or where secretly hoping the RP is wrong .

Now in case of your friend it's unclear whether he literally dove deep into the RP or he " naturally " understood it due to seeing stuf and acted to it. Because if it's the latter he might've never really adopted the mindset = he was always bluepilled

Other than that: let's not underestimate the force of woman putting any kinda pressure. Or perhaps family or both. To be frank, in this modern dating era the ultimate flex remains to have AND keep a loyal cooperative woman who knows how to be a good to a man. It's a super power.

 

[SW15]

Now in case of your friend it's unclear whether he literally dove deep into the RP or he " naturally " understood it due to seeing stuf and acted to it. Because if it's the latter he might've never really adopted the mindset = he was always bluepilled

My belief is that he was always blue pilled but his looks and status made him look more like a natural. This enabled the triple digit notch count to happen.

 

[Gamisch]

My belief is that he was always blue pilled but his looks and status made him look more like a natural. This enabled the triple digit notch count to happen.

Being RP has ZERO to do with LOOKS tho..neither does status makes aan RP by default.

matter a fact, it takes actual awareness of the game. Yes, a man with a higher overall volume CAN learn the game quicker because he allegedly spends more time with more women. But simultaneously a man who actually lived with four women might be more aware than a guy like your friend.

If anything, it might even be that YOU as an observer became more aware of hoe women react to certain traits than he was as crazy as it sounds.

 

[SW15]

it takes actual awareness of the game.

I had been quite game aware by the time I met him in the early 2010s.

If anything, it might even be that YOU as an observer became more aware of hoe women react to certain traits than he was as crazy as it sounds.

That's not crazy. It was obvious to see the differences how women reacted to us at 6'4" and 5'10".

 

[BaronOfHair]

Because inherently men LOVE to be bluepilled dorks. I've "lost" like at least ten homies to the bluepill agenda, even tho we've spent hours and hours talking about RP shyte. It's quite embarrassing.

Sometimes even on the forum experienced members fall back into their bluepilled hardwired ideology

What do we even mean by "Blue Pilled" and "Red Pilled" anymore? Serious question: The Manosphere/those who are Manosphere-adjacent(Which would be all of us here)have become more unintelligible than

 

[Learning Curve]

Recently I have had the (dis)pleasure of seeing some awful game up close and personal. Twice in the past few weeks I have been at a restaurant and ended up at a table next to a couple on a first date. In both instances, the men were absolutely clueless and it was genuinely painful to observe.

Date 1 — the guy was desperate. He made it clear that he was lonely, sounded like he recently moved to town and was floundering a bit. She was bored, giving him very little to work with in conversation and trying to speed things along, started mentioning that she was going to meet up with friends after the meal. Desperateboy starts asking, “oh well what are you doing tomorrow?” “Maybe we can meet this weekend? I’ll be free.” They walked out and I think he was still trying to secure a future meeting.

Date 2 — guy was obnoxious. Very clearly trying to imply that he was doing well financially and never shut the fvck up. I don’t think he ever gave her a chance to speak. At one point he asks something about if she likes baseball. She says not really and he immediately launches into a story about baseball before the last syllable is out of her mouth. He then tries to one-up the waiter by asking questions about the menu which I’m sure made his date start sitting in a puddle. My check came before the conclusion of their date but she was already saying that she didn’t want dessert….

Neither guy made his date laugh even once. There was no sexual tension. And the venue selection was subpar.

Don’t believe all the doom and gloom you read about modern dating. The bar is very low. If you have even an iota of game, you will stand out.

This is nothing.

If you want a low bar game, come to Cyprus and you will be surprised.

This examples are very common.

Guys don’t even understand basic conversation ratio between a woman and themselves not even sexual escalation and body language approach.

Is scary, pathetic and disappointing at the same time.