Age shaming ramping up for men who play the field after the age of 30.

[CornbreadFed]

Among my primary social group (the one featured in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere"), it is nearly impossible to get any of those guys to ever serve as a wingman to me in a nightlife venue. I can see some of the guys in that group for non-pickup related things (though not as often I would like). The guys who were more of acquaintances are guys I see even less because I'm seeing the true friends less. Married men and married parents of younger children tend to be absorbed in their worlds.

I do not miss going to clubs two nights a week to spit BS on women. Were they fun when I was young? Yes, but I grew out of it and they are also mentally draining especially if you wake up with a hangover the next day. Even if we don't go to a bar/club it still ends up turning into some BS relating to them being single. For example, if we go to a coffee shop, and he has a thing for the barista or something it then turns in to "Should I make a move bro", help me out bro" type situation.

Over the years, I have shifted more of my game to non-bar approaching (which has downsides) and going solo at nightlife venues (not recommended, though not the worst thing ever).

This is what my friend does not, goes to dance nights and bars/clubs by himself

I have also found it difficult to make new friends with other 30+ males in similar spots to me. If I had been more successful with that, I might have had more wingman options.

Because it is hard to make friends with direct competitors. Another reason why having female friends/other friends isn't a bad idea because y'all aren't competing for the same resources.

It's common for unattached men to try to get their attached friends to get them into mutual friend events where it is known that unattached women in the social sphere will be present. There was one time where I hounded one of my married friends over an introduction to his wife's co-worker who was single at a time. This introduction never happened because the woman was fairly prudish sexually and I have been known to escalate sexually. That woman eventually got married to some guy off of a relationship-oriented swipe app after making him wait for sex for a time far longer than I would have waited.

This is annoying lol and trust me if you were a great fit then I would be referring you/women would be asking about you.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yeah maybe, but who gives a fvck if they do?

If you have: health - money - friends and family - live your fcking life the way you want.

Work from a beach and have your meals served to you by naked women. Who wouldn’t want that?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yeah maybe, but who gives a fvck if they do?

If you have: health - money - friends and family - live your fcking life the way you want.

Work from a beach and have your meals served to you by naked women. Who wouldn’t want that?

Us vs them mentality

 

[Divorced w 3]

Us vs them mentality

Can’t we all just get along?

 

[SW15]

It's common for unattached men to try to get their attached friends to get them into mutual friend events where it is known that unattached women in the social sphere will be present. There was one time where I hounded one of my married friends over an introduction to his wife's co-worker who was single at the time. This introduction never happened because the woman was fairly prudish sexually and I have been known to escalate sexually. That woman eventually got married to some guy off of a relationship oriented swipe app after making him wait for sex for a time far longer than I would have waited.

This is annoying lol and trust me if you were a great fit then I would be referring you/women would be asking about you.

That female (who was a co-worker of my friend's wife before they had kids) didn't have much awareness of who I was. I knew who she was. There was a definite awareness gap.

I don't think anyone ever asked any of the girlfriends/wives of my male friends/acquaintances about me.

I have expressed disappointment on many occasions that the girlfriends/wives of my male friends/acquaintances never tried to refer me.

I do not miss going to clubs two nights a week to spit BS on women. Were they fun when I was young? Yes, but I grew out of it and they are also mentally draining especially if you wake up with a hangover the next day. Even if we don't go to a bar/club it still ends up turning into some BS relating to them being single. For example, if we go to a coffee shop, and he has a thing for the barista or something it then turns in to "Should I make a move bro", help me out bro" type situation.

My married friends/acquaintances would likely say something similar. I can think of 2 friends (not in that primary group) who have said something like that.

In terms of nightlife, I have been more of a bar than a nightclub person. Going to any sort of nightlife venue is not that fun for a lot of people, both unattached and attached. Unattached people often think that they need to go to nightlife venues to mingle. This has gotten less common in recent years with the rise of dating websites and dating apps though.

it is hard to make friends with direct competitors.

It would be true that those 30+ male friends in a similar life stage would be direct competitors for women.

Another reason why having female friends/other friends isn't a bad idea because y'all aren't competing for the same resources.

I don't have any unattached/marginally attached platonic female friends right now. The girlfriends/wives of my male friends could have been good resources, but they did nothing years ago when they had the opportunity to do something to benefit me.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Millennials specifically now in 2025 from ages 35-31 are the new baby boomers. (Echo boom)

probably the most “enlightened” demographic. I wouldn’t be surprised if these men and women ever get married.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Can’t we all just get along?

TBH, I wouldn't consider you in this category. Society has issues with never married/childless plus 30-year-old men. You were previously married and have kids, so you do not qualify lol. Someone that has never been married and is childless is below you in "life-maturity level" which sets you apart from them. I don't mean this by saying y'all are immature, I mean that you guys haven't been tested and grounded in the same manner as other men.

 

[SW15]

Society has issues with never married/childless plus 30-year-old men. You were previously married and have kids, so you do not qualify lol.

Society seems to be better at processing divorced 30+ men with kids. People seem to be more understanding of that situation than the 30+, never married, childless man. However, with Millennials, the 30+ never married, childless man is becoming more common.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Society seems to be better at processing divorced 30+ men with kids. People seem to be more understanding of that situation than the 30+, never married, childless man. However, with Millennials, the 30+ never married, childless man is becoming more common.

Here is a good example: 30+ never married men are more likely to be chronic complainers in social groups because guys in LTRs/marriages are basically trained to present themselves as more socially accountable/stable because nothing dries a woman's panties more than her man complaining about pointless stuff. As a result, we either hold it in or we find other avenues to vent at. My friend has been complaining about his job the past 5 years and is acting like he was the first one to know about the Tech white collar crisis going on right now. No man, we have known, but we just haven't been crying about it every day like you have been . If you aren't a chronic complainer then congrats, but I think this is an example of a man that hasn't been tested/grounded vs a man that has.

Also, the Wojak doomerist/negative mentality is one thing too. Like dude, I have mouths to feed and bills to pay, so your doomerist approach to every event/just be a passport bro in the Philippines is not going to vibe well with me.

 

[Divorced w 3]

TBH, I wouldn't consider you in this category. Society has issues with never married/childless plus 30-year-old men. You were previously married and have kids, so you do not qualify lol. Someone that has never been married and is childless is below you in "life-maturity level" which sets you apart from them. I don't mean this by saying y'all are immature, I mean that you guys haven't been tested and grounded in the same manner as other men.

I don’t consider myself in this category either sir

I have a lot of fun on this website. It has forced me to think and has held me accountable.

I tripped ketamine a year ago and I realized in deep space that I need to give this place a lot of props

 

[Solomon]

I am not sure if I am the only one noticing this but lately, I have witnessed that a lot of people out there (often men themselves) are age shaming guys who are not in a monogamous relationship. It used to be far less common a decade ago as @Solomon might attest to but it is in recent years I have seen this shift. In fact, I remember a time in the Red Pill space where the idea was to spin plates and in some cases, even be a playboy until you die. They often hyped up a man's 30s.

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

The other guy I see get it a ton on Twitter is Mike Majlak. Literally every post is people gaslighting him for being 40 and still sleep around.

I just find this whole thing unfolding to be a bit strange. How we went from "spin plates" and "don't get married because marriage is a sham" a decade ago in masculine spaces to "why are you not married with kids in your 30s?".

Like it is as if in the span of a decade, the Player has gone from being loved to loathed by his fellow man.

Honestly, who cares? When I was 40 (last year) I was hooking up with a 21-year-old, granted she never met my friends because it wasn't serious and we both knew it. I noticed the age shaming thing in the media, but the reality is you do have a certain group of younger women that like older men for various reasons i.e. more mature, have our **** together, etc.

The reality is it depends obviously what chick you're going after and if you have the capability but I don't care about mainstream society's input in my love life. In regard to my married friends, I rarely see them, and it use to bug me initially but now I could care less because if I have to be married to be in the "clique" I guess we aren't that tight of friends to begin with

 

[MatureDJ]

I am not sure if I am the only one noticing this but lately, I have witnessed that a lot of people out there (often men themselves) are age shaming guys who are not in a monogamous relationship. It used to be far less common a decade ago as @Solomon might attest to but it is in recent years I have seen this shift. In fact, I remember a time in the Red Pill space where the idea was to spin plates and in some cases, even be a playboy until you die. They often hyped up a man's 30s.

But the age shaming of guys who sleep around is making waves throughout mainstream. A famous example is Drake getting gaslighted for going for younger women and not having a family, something that people kept poking at during his beef with Kendrick Lamar.

The other guy I see get it a ton on Twitter is Mike Majlak. Literally every post is people gaslighting him for being 40 and still sleep around.

I just find this whole thing unfolding to be a bit strange. How we went from "spin plates" and "don't get married because marriage is a sham" a decade ago in masculine spaces to "why are you not married with kids in your 30s?".

Like it is as if in the span of a decade, the Player has gone from being loved to loathed by his fellow man.

The loathing is simply anger from the frustrated chumps over the players hogging all the women.

 

[SW15]

30+ never married men are more likely to be chronic complainers in social groups because guys in LTRs/marriages are basically trained to present themselves as more socially accountable/stable because nothing dries a woman's panties more than her man complaining about pointless stuff.

This even assumes that a 30+, never married, and childless man is even part of a larger social group.

30+, never married, childless men are often pushed to the fringes of social groups. They might still be on good terms with the married/LTR men, but the married men don't want to see them as much often due to the demands of the girlfriend/wife or the combination of the girlfriend/wife and the young children. The pushing to the fringes occurrence is even more common for the never married, childless men who aren't in committed relationships at a given moment.

This even happens with Millennials, who are supposed to have more 30+, never married, childless people.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This even assumes that a 30+, never married, and childless man is even part of a larger social group.

30+, never married, childless men are often pushed to the fringes of social groups. They might still be on good terms with the married/LTR men, but the married men don't want to see them as much often due to the demands of the girlfriend/wife or the combination of the girlfriend/wife and the young children. The pushing to the fringes occurrence is even more common for the never married, childless men who aren't in committed relationships at a given moment.

This even happens with Millennials, who are supposed to have more 30+, never married, childless people.

It's not lol, they are just giving you a false no because it's hard to question. The real reasons is that priorities & interests shift which result in married men drifting away from their previous lives. For example, if I go out with other married guys, I can talk about mutual interests and not have to deal with picking up women at a bar, hearing the same dating stories, or getting pressured to cheat on my SO. You are better off finding a singles male friend that is in to a different type of woman than you are because y'all aren't competing for the same prey. Even if we don't talk about women, what are we going to talk about? Jeff quiet quit his job, all he does is smoke weed/go to the gym outside Tinder dates, we have beaten the "remember this from college" topics to death, and etc.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It's hard to live your life the way you want if you're overly sensitive to the haters who are always gonna hate.

The crabs in a barrel will always find a way to express themselves and try to make their miserable lives less miserable.

Do what you want and ignore the posturing motherfvckers who wish otherwise.

 

[The Duke]

Yeah maybe, but who gives a fvck if they do?

If you have: health - money - friends and family - live your fcking life the way you want.

Work from a beach and have your meals served to you by naked women. Who wouldn’t want that?

Have you ever ate a meal amongst naked women? Medium rare steak takes on a whole new flavor. Lol. Takes a little getting used to.

 

[plumber]

What's wrong in calling Peter Pan's behaviour a Peter Pan's behaviour?

Don't get me wrong but since I am father of a daughter, my dream for her is to eventually meet guy that is not more than 5 years older than her (and preferably bluepilled) if she will start dating at the age of 18 and not more than 7-8 years older than her if she will not find a BF until 25 or so and I will actively oppose any idea of dating +10 years older guys at least until that point as for me as I want what is best for my my family and IDGAF about older players if they will cross any plan I make for my family.

I am coherent about it - for me a cougar high school teacher seducing nearly 20 years younger 18 years old male student is as close to word "pedophile" as she can get.

i get it. i also have daughter. thing i worry about is if she gets a blue pill guy (and in m world i could ensure that) will she be happy. we have so many threads about how women are ultimately unhappy with blue pill guy. for sure my girl, is a girl. and is subject to all the things girls feel.

i would prefer a red pill guy or better a white pill guy. the guy can do it all, but choose to care for her. if he is true blue, she will end up not respecting him after some time.

a red pill guy that choose to improve even more.

 

[plumber]

Yeah maybe, but who gives a fvck if they do?

If you have: health - money - friends and family - live your fcking life the way you want.

Work from a beach and have your meals served to you by naked women. Who wouldn’t want that?

if you can be Captain Kirk, then do it.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Also, having your daughter get with a bluepill guy will just frustrate her and make her go off and do bad things anyway. The ideal is for her to get with a football star or a kid from a wealthy family. That's how I would look at it. Naturally, I could see myself wanting her to make a life of her own, but then I'd be making her a career woman. Nope.

 

[SW15]

For example, if I go out with other married guys, I can talk about mutual interests and not have to deal with picking up women at a bar, hearing the same dating stories, or getting pressured to cheat on my SO.

When I see my married guy friends, the hope is that we are doing something active and not just sitting at a bar/restaurant. Many male friendships are based around activities and that's a good thing.

With some married male friends, it becomes more difficult to get them to show up for certain activities.

I find that I have less in common in terms of lifestyle with my married male friends who have children. Most of my married male friends with children have children under 5 right now.

I have some married male friends who are older and childless. In terms of lifestyle, their lifestyles are closer to my lifestyle than my married friends with children.

You are better off finding a singles male friend that is in to a different type of woman than you are because y'all aren't competing for the same prey.

That would be good. In general, I need more unmarried friends.