Venom Chronicles: Be The Man She Will Cheat With

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

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Yes, be the man she'll cheat on her man with.

This thread covers the concept of what it means for women to find you of high interest..of such high interest that she'll cheat on her husband or boyfriend with you.

Now look, we all know that women can cheat.

And we all know that some women will cheat.

But the question is, do an average woman (whose in a relationship) view you as that guy she'll cross those lines with?
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Now, how do we define high interest?

I define high interest as a woman that will do with you (or for you), what she wouldn't do with/for a large percentage of other men.

That's why when some of you claim that Mode One won't work...my retort is always the same.. which is any variation of..

"It will work if the woman finds you attractive".

Or..

"It will work if she finds you of high interest".

And this high interest concept carries over to other aspects..

Oh, she told you she doesn't have sex on the first night?

Well, what if I told you I met her, and I f#cked her on the first night?

What does that say about you? What does that say about me?

Me: High interest.
You: Low interest.

Or, how about if I went Mode One on her, and she cussed me out and told me to delete her number.

But on the contrary, you went Mode One on her, and she asked you "where, and when"?

What does that say about you? What does that say about me?

You: High interest.
Me: Low interest.

Most of you guys have experiences of taking women out on 2-3 dates, with the hopes of getting sex in return.

But what you fail to realize is, there is a guy (guys) out there, that these women are fuking, WITHOUT being taken on dates.

The difference?

You: Low Interest.
Other guys: High Interest.

Now, I said all that to say: Your aim should be, to become a "select" guy (Rom Wills term).

Be the guy that women will go against all their social programming to have.

Her: I wouldn't cheat on my husband (or boyfriend), but I will with him (you).

Her: I don't give it up on the first night, but I will with him (you).

Her: I usually need to get to know a guy first before I give it up...but not with him, he (you) can have it NOW.

See, some of you guys are invisible to women. Nothing remarkable about you at all. You don't stand out (conversation for another day).

Some of you may never know what it's like for a woman to find you of high interest.

It's not that she requires dates and rapport building for every man, she requires these things for men she views of low interest.

Men of low interest have to work harder.

Men of high interest has to work less (if at all).

You are on your third date with her, thinking this is all part of the process.

Not knowing that just last week, I smashed her without going on any dates.

You played her game..I didn't have to.
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Now, I said ALL that to say, again..the aim should be for you to..

Be The Man She Will Cheat With.
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Now, I'll share with you guys two stories on how I am that guy..at least with two women.

I'll share the stories on this same thread..I just had to lay the foundation first.

Stay tuned.

 

[Desdinova]

I've said this stuff throughout the years on this forum...

You have to be more interesting than her current BF/partner. It's not difficult. He sits at home playing video games and buys her flowers on their anniversary. You tease the fvck out of her, show her a fun time, and she will act upon how she feels in that moment. Women don't generally plan to cheat. They cheat when it feels like the right thing to do.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

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So,

Last February, I had started my new and current job.

The building of where my day starts (HQ) has an industrial kitchen, where chefs and food preps conduct their duties of cooking and preparing food for off-site restaurants.

Now, I am not a chef or cook, but because of my job, I am back and forth (on the outskirts of the kitchen area)...through the building.

My daily duties keeps me in close and consistent proximity with the kitchen, and with kitchen employees.
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Most of the women that work in the kitchen are middle aged (50's and above), which, of course, is not a problem for me..as some of you know.

Not only that, but most of the women are of foreign African descent and/or foreign Mexican descent.

I said that to say; there is a language barrier there...not only that, but there is hardly no physical attraction with any of the women, at all.
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Now, my first week on the new job, as I am in the break room, one of the cooks (who had just ended her shift), approaches me.

Her: Oh, you are new, huh? My name is Dee (alias name for the story).

*Dee extends her hand for a handshake, and looks at me with gleaming eyes*

Me: What's up Dee. I'm ______

*I extend my hand*.

Now, to describe Dee: She is a Black woman, about 5'6, age 58. She is one of only two African American women who work in the kitchen.

She is a lively, exuberant woman..and you can often hear her "loud and proud" voice above others in the kitchen (from distance, too).

She has a slim frame..and being the breasts man that I am, she had (or so I thought), nothing of notice there. And her face is average at best.

We had a brief chat and it was discovered that we're both from Detroit, to both of our surprise.

We discussed what brought us to the desert, among other formalities.

She asked if I had worked tomorrow, which I confirmed, and she said she'll see me tomorrow and we parted ways.

Now, since this new job had me encountering and coming across HUNDREDS of women (in general) on a daily basis..in addition to me not being attracted to her, I didn't think anything of our exchange.
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I'll be back to share how things progressed, and to drive home the bigger point.

Another point that's worth obvious notice..

1. Anytime a woman goes out her way to introduce herself to you, it is usually a choosing signal (IOI).

She literally walked into the break room, just to introduce herself to me..and walked out the room when we finished speaking.

I was the target.

I had spoke of a similar occurrence in another workplace related story.

Stay tuned.

 

[Solomon]

Why would you want deal with a woman who is dealing with another man?
I get the premise of the thread
But you going down a slippery slope, we all have heard stories of a guy finding his wife/gf cheating and offing her and her "side dude"
I personally would not deal with any woman from my workplace, I have to much to lose
Sure in my 20s I did but I was working low level entry jobs, now? heck no some ran-through coochie is not worth losing my career

There comes a point where you as a man have to assess the ROI, last thing I want is some guy calling me or, heaven forbid, try to fight me or murder me cause he couldn't keep his bop in check. Or worse, lose my job

I knew a brother at my old job who lost his job because he was messing around with a couple of women at the same time, and one got upset and set him up via text message and falsey reported him to HR. It set him back a couple of years because he was still paying child support to his baby momma. Sometimes even if the P is served on a platter it's not worth it

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Why would you want deal with a woman who is dealing with another man?
I get the premise of the thread
But you going down a slippery slope, we all have heard stories of a guy finding his wife/gf cheating and offing her and her "side dude"
I personally would not deal with any woman from my workplace, I have to much to lose
Sure in my 20s I did but I was working low level entry jobs, now? heck no some ran-through coochie is not worth losing my career

There comes a point where you as a man have to assess the ROI, last thing I want is some guy calling me or, heaven forbid, try to fight me or murder me cause he couldn't keep his bop in check. Or worse, lose my job

I knew a brother at my old job who lost his job because he was messing around with a couple of women at the same time, and one got upset and set him up via text message and falsey reported him to HR. It set him back a couple of years because he was still paying child support to his baby momma. Sometimes even if the P is served on a platter it's not worth it

It is the individual responsibility of the man to do a risk assessment of the situation.

Does the risk outweigh the reward?

You decide.

Another thing, it is easy to have mentalities of...

1. I'm not getting involved with a married woman, or a woman who has a boyfriend.

2. I dont get romantically involved with women that I work with.

Sure, that is easy to say, especially when you are an average Joe who is invisible to women anyway.

However, it is difficult to do when it is the women, who are pursuing YOU.

If you think it isn't difficult, then you probably haven't had women actually pursue you.

It is a whole different ballgame, pimp.

It takes an extremely mentality strong and disciplined man to not give in to temptation...and that is where the real battle is won.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Anytime a woman goes out her way to introduce herself to you, it is usually a choosing signal (IOI).

She literally walked into the break room, just to introduce herself to me..and walked out the room when we finished speaking.

I was the target.

I have NO doubt you were the target Venom. From what you've posted over the years, you are an attractive man with an extremely strong and powerful presence (6'4" 300 lbs pure muscle).

And many (not all) of these women are older so no doubt they're gonna be drawn to you and give lots of IOIs and 'choosing signals."

What advice do you have for men who aren't "all that" or who aren't Chads with a strong presence whom women will open her legs for by his mere presence? Which is probably the majority of men..

I basically just asked this in another thread too, a thread created by a Chad who basically doesn't have to DO a damn thing but 'exist', and most women will be drawn to/interested in him.

What advice do you have for the average man who struggles?

 

[characternote]

What advice do you have for the average man who struggles?

advice will he 'hit the gym'
Sosuave is well known for the advice of 'hit the gym and make more money'

the days of mysterymethod and 'say this line, then use a pushpull line like 'xxx' and then use a neg blablaba' have long gone.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I have NO doubt you were the target Venom. From what you've posted over the years, you are an attractive man with an extremely strong and powerful presence (6'4" 300 lbs pure muscle).

I try .

And these women are older so no doubt they're gonna be drawn to you and give lots of IOIs and 'choosing signals."

Sometimes .

What advice do you have for men who aren't "all that" or who aren't Chads with a strong presence whom women will open her legs for by his mere presence?

What advice do you have for the average man who struggles?

My advice..

Get Your Asses To the Gym!!!

. Listen, man... Even though I cannot stress it enough, I will continue to stress: Hit the Gym!! There is obviously a lot of confirmation bias on this forum, and you guys don't listen to sh!t I tell you. Everything that I advise has been proven to work for me, and I only share with you my...

www.sosuave.net

I'm a strong (no pun intended) advocate of body game.

It begins and ends there.

Once you get your body right, the looks and confidence will come as a result.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

advice will he 'hit the gym'
Sosuave is well known for the advice of 'hit the gym and make more money'

the days of mysterymethod and 'say this line, then use a pushpull line like 'xxx' and then use a neg blablaba' have long gone.

Money will NEVER be part of my equation.

You want a chick to want you for your body, not your money.

 

[Sega Genesis]

advice will he 'hit the gym'
Sosuave is well known for the advice of 'hit the gym and make more money'

the days of mystery method and 'say this line, then use a pushpull line like 'xxx' and then use a neg blablaba' have long gone.

I see OK thanks.

In my experience however (even in today's dating environment) certain behaviors still 'work' to a man's advantage.

Not "lines" per se but I love to laugh and be teased so C&F might pull me and/or a slight push/pull to initially intrigue me and get my rabbits wheels spinning a bit. Most women would never admit that but nevertheless it's true IME.

I don't think these "strategies" will ever become outdated as long as they're executed correctly (naturally/genuinely) and not as if he's following advice written in some book (contrived).

 

[characternote]

I see OK thanks.

In my experience however (even in today's dating environment) certain behaviors still 'work' to a man's advantage.

Not "lines" per se but I love to laugh and be teased so C&F might pull me and a slight push/pull to initially intrigue me and get my rabbits wheels spinning.

I don't think these "strategies" will ever become outdated as long as they're executed correctly (naturally/genuinely) and not as if he's following advice written in some book.

them things more or less come under the umbrella of 'flirting' which i'm sure the OP does, as do I. It just helps move the interaction the way you want it to go. But the issue is that 'flirting' with a girl who isn't remotely attracted to you will almost never end up in a lay from a cold approach! As we see time and time again with the 'worlds best' PUA's! Imagine Danny Devito tonight (without fame) going out to hit on super hot 19 year olds. It ain't gonna happen no matter how funny and ****y and charming he is! lol

 

[Solomon]

It is the individual responsibility of the man to do a risk assessment of the situation.

Does the risk outweigh the reward?

You decide.

Another thing, it is easy to have mentalities of...

1. I'm not getting involved with a married woman, or a woman who has a boyfriend.

2. I dont get romantically involved with women that I work with.

Sure, that is easy to say, especially when you are an average Joe who is invisible to women anyway.

However, it is difficult to do when it is the women, who are pursuing YOU.

If you think it isn't difficult, then you probably haven't had women actually pursue you.

It is a whole different ballgame, pimp.

It takes an extremely mentality strong and disciplined man to not give in to temptation...and that is where the real battle is won.

If you are a man like me working a good job making a 6-figure salary, you're far from average, there is no p worth losing my job. Trust me I have had chicks throw it at me in hopes of getting cracked, I'm talking about being alone with female co-workers in hotel rooms. Is it worth losing my career? hell no.

Even if I was working at McDonald's, there is no coochie worth it, especially a 58-year-old (I'm not that pressed when I know I could get a chick younger and I'm older than you), knowing what I know now, I'm not going to entertain that risk and think it's stupid to do so. Especially in this age of false allegations, an economy of scarce jobs etc. As a former corporate trainer, I've seen men young and old lose their job for sticking their **** in women just for those same women to later turn vindictive.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

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Moving on with it..

Now, the next few days after our first exchange in the breakroom room, when I'd arrive to work in the morning, Dee would see me and give me sweet "good morning" pleasantries, at which I'd stop at her area in the kitchen and speak briefly with her.

I began to notice she was wearing a wedding ring. I asked her...

Me: Dee, are you married?

Dee: Yes, unfortunately .

Well, there you have it.

Now, I know she is married.

And I can only pray that if any of you men ever get married, that your wife don't respond in such a way as Dee, if she is asked the same question.

Bear in mind, I have a strict "if she is married, leave her alone" policy.

Plus, I'm not attracted to her like that, anyway.

So, should be easy, right?

Wrong.

Because, over the next couple days..it went from us exchanging sweet pleasantries in the morning..to HUGS.

In the morning, when she would see me, she would beeline over to give me a hug.

The hugs felt good.

How good?

So good that eventually, I began to give her more passionate hugs. I would hug her in return, but my hugs begin to consist of me lifting her in the air.

This became our regular morning routine, and it got to the point where we became a spectacle in the kitchen area.

Some of the other kitchen ladies would begin to smirk as we hugged, and make cute little comments (although there were some envious looks and comments as well).

One day, as we hugged in plain view of her coworkers, I told Dee in her ear that I think her homegirls are jealous..and she whispered back..

Dee: I don't care.

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Every time that I'd pass her area throughout the day..if she saw me, she'd give me a smile...with a look of strong, sensual admiration.

Such a look that would make a masculine man like myself melt.

Never should a married woman look at another man with such admiration as she looks at me.

Even her hugs; to feel her squeeze my large, masculine frame with all the might of her slender strength...made me melt.

I would melt and lose all my strength and succumb to hers.

Not only that, but over time, I began to notice that her chest (since that is where my eyes always look) became more apparent.

More noticable.

It became apparent that certain bra's (obviously) made her chest look less apparent.

And, the dress policy for the cooks changed, where they all had to wear the traditional "cook suit" (whatever you call it, with the hat).

Anyways, I said all that to say, her chest became more enticing after all..and I began to become physically attracted to her and undressing her chefs suit with my eyes, imagining what I would see if I was to unbutton those four buttons.
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But did it stop there?

No.

It got to the point where, as we hugged, she began to kiss me on the side of my face.

So now our sweet morning pleasantries consists of hugs, and a kiss.

Things are progressing..and now, I'm filled with passion...because kissing is my love language.

Being filled with passion, I decided to escalate things even further...and the next day...I did.

Stay tuned.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

If you are a man like me working a good job making a 6-figure salary, you're far from average, there is no p worth losing my job.

1. I make 6-figures
2. I smashed a chick at work.
3. Therefore, I lost my job.

This is what's called a non sequitur.

Which means, "it does not follow".

The conclusion (3) doesn't necessarily follow from the premises (1-2)...yet for some reason you felt compelled to connect them.

There is a guy out there who makes 6-figures, and is smashing chicks at work..and STILL has his job and will continue having his job.

Your concerns doesn't negate his triumps.

Trust me I have had chicks throw it at me in hopes of getting cracked, I'm talking about being alone with female co-workers in hotel rooms. Is it worth losing my career? hell no.

Then send them female coworkers to me and I'll get a hotel room with them.

I'll gladly pick up where you left off.

Even if I was working at McDonald's, there is no coochie worth it, especially a 58-year-old (I'm not that pressed when I know I could get a chick younger and I'm older than you)

I'm sure you can get any chick you want, since you have to fight your female coworkers off you with a stick.

, knowing what I know now, I'm not going to entertain that risk and think it's stupid to do so. Especially in this age of false allegations, an economy of scarce jobs etc. As a former corporate trainer, I've seen men young and old lose their job for sticking their **** in women just for those same women to later turn vindictive.

It's worth it to me .

 

[Solomon]

1. I make 6-figures
2. I smashed a chick at work.
3. Therefore, I lost my job.

This is what's called a non sequitur.

Which means, "it does not follow".

The conclusion (3) doesn't necessarily follow from the premises (1-2)...yet for some reason you felt compelled to connect them.

There is a guy out there who makes 6-figures, and is smashing chicks at work..and STILL has his job and will continue having his job.

Your concerns doesn't negate his triumps.



Then send them female coworkers to me and I'll get a hotel room with them.

I'll gladly pick up where you left off.



I'm sure you can get any chick you want, since you have to fight your female coworkers off you with a stick.



It's worth it to me .

If this is the hill you wanna die on bruh you got it.

*Vanishes LIke Goku*

 

[zekko]

Why would you want deal with a woman who is dealing with another man?

Yeah, it's a worthy goal to be an interesting guy. But why so sleazy?

One thing that's always got me about this place is that it's supposed to be a place to help men, but a lot of guys here have goals of trying to make cucks out of other men. And can totally destroy their lives by trying to seduce their wives, which could end in a devastating divorce for them. And for what? So they can take advantage of women's weak natures and indulge in a primal urge? Really helping men out there.

I remember guys in years past saying they were helping men out by destroying their marriages so they can be red pilled. What a crock.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Yeah, it's a worthy goal to be an interesting guy. But why so sleazy?

Reading comprehension.

The thread is not about being sleazy.

The thread is about placing yourself in a position to whereas women, even though committed to another, wants you and will cross those lines with you.

Now, what you choose to do with it is up to you.

 

[Solomon]

Yeah, it's a worthy goal to be an interesting guy. But why so sleazy?

One thing that's always got me about this place is that it's supposed to be a place to help men, but a lot of guys here have goals of trying to make cucks out of other men. And can totally destroy their lives by trying to seduce their wives, which could end in a devastating divorce for them. And for what? So they can take advantage of women's weak natures and indulge in a primal urge? Really helping men out there.

I remember guys in years past saying they were helping men out by destroying their marriages so they can be red pilled. What a crock.

Totally agree Venom is 40 years old moving like a kid, I expect this type of rheotric from a 20 year old but not a 40 year old man, but than again he's banging nearly women 20 years his senior so there's that.

Some men have scarcity mindset even as they get older

 

[zekko]

The thread is about placing yourself in a position to whereas women, even though committed to another, wants you and will cross those lines with you.

That's basically what I said. I said it's a worthy goal to be an interesting guy. Why frame that in the context of having some woman cheat with you?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

That's basically what I said. I said it's a worthy goal to be an interesting guy. Why frame that in the context of having some woman cheat with you?

Because, if we assume that some women actually take their vows and/or commitments seriously...for them to cross those lines with you would seem to suggest that it is something about YOU that is that much desirable.

All I'm saying is be that desirable.

Its a good position to be in, where women will risk it all for you.

That's all I'm saying.