How Much More Attractive are Women with Cool, Male-Friendly Hobbies?

[SW15]

With some younger more "City girl" types, they would both probably do pretty bad.

This is the type of woman I've interacted with most frequently over the years.

 

[ValiantMale]

This is the type of woman I've interacted with most frequently over the years.

That's good man. If you can get the younger, more city girl types and capitalize on that crowd, you definitely have good game.

For some guys its a bit easier, like young dudes 23-27 , handsome types, nice physique and good fashion sense, nice smile, etc.. But for alot /average guy its tough! Thats a superficial age the 18-24 yr old gals.

 

[MatureDJ]

This could be attractive depending on their looks and demeanor.



Agree. Mystery is a 6'5" male. He didn't need much in the way of verbal game with that height. His student, Neil Strauss, is only a 5'6" male. Strauss would have needed more "game" tactics in order to be successful.

In all of the videos I've seen of Neil Strauss, I've never understood his success with women.

Although Mystery is super tall, he is also super skinny. Still, TallFrameCel > ShortGymCel.

 

[SW15]

most of these women in male dominated sports are usually lesbians or a little too close to being overly masculine. Look at Caitlin Clark. She is a badass at playing basketball and has mad skills. At the same time, she looks like she missed being a dude by a small fraction. Her skills on the court are admirable but I wouldn’t say she was sexier because of them.

Very few women who play basketball at a higher level (college or professional) are going to be attractive.

Many women who were only high school level basketball players won't be attractive as adults. There is an exceptional for a woman who was both a high school volleyball and basketball player. This is usually a taller woman and volleyball attracts some prettier females.

In the first post, I didn't mention swimming. Swimming is another female hobby that could increase attractiveness to a male.

There have been numerous attractive Olympic level swimmers over the years. It's unrealistic for most men to meet a Olympic level swimmer but it's more realistic for a man to meet a woman who was either on a high school or college swim team.

Many former high school or college level swimmers will have kept a solid physique after their competitive swimming days are over. That will be attractive to lots of men.

Men who like to swim will also be interested in female swimmers.

 

[Hal9000]

For me it doesn't really make any difference. Almost all women I've dated work, go home and do very little from a hobby perspective so even if it was a slight positive odds are you wouldn't ever actually find enough of them for it to matter. Having said that I dont really engage in any of those activities (nor anything else I do enough to really call it a hobby) so maybe thats why I have that perspective.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Lol I've always thought the cute smart@ss type who knows how to play pool in the bar scenes to be pretty sexy and cool, but of course my taste have changed over the years.

 

[SW15]

I've always thought the cute smart@ss type who knows how to play pool in the bar scenes to be pretty sexy and cool, but of course my taste have changed over the years.

Billiards is a relevant hobby. I can imagine a woman playing billiards to be attractive.

Billiards is a very good early stage date activity.

I know of one bar near me with multiple tables. Every time that I have been inside the bar and seen who is playing, it is mostly males.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Billiards is a relevant hobby. I can imagine a woman playing billiards to be attractive.

Billiards is a very good early stage date activity.

I know of one bar near me with multiple tables. Every time that I have been inside the bar and seen who is playing, it is mostly males.

Lol I don't think I've seen the Movie The Hustler or The Color Purple. Are those good movies?

 

[SW15]

For me it doesn't really make any difference.

This is a good perspective.

Almost all women I've dated work, go home and do very little from a hobby perspective so even if it was a slight positive odds are you wouldn't ever actually find enough of them for it to matter.

Did any of them go to the gym? Women who go to gyms can experience abundance at the gyms. Most women now are actively discouraging gym approaches with headphones/earbuds.

Mid and subpar women who most men don't even want to approach try to discourage approaches with headphones/earbuds.

Many women do lack depth in hobbies. A lot like streaming video content and social media.

 

[Bokanovsky]

In all of the videos I've seen of Neil Strauss, I've never understood his success with women.

Is there any verifiable evidence that he was actually successful with women?

 

[BadBoy89]

I had an ex who was Chinese, decent looking. Knew almost nothing about sports. I got her so into hockey, that at night, during the hockey playoffs, she would ask me “is their a game?” Then I taught her basketball, then I taught her baseball, then football, then Chess. It was fun.

In any event, if the man likes the woman and they get along, it doesn’t really matter if she is into male hobbies. I mean, would you rather date a hot divorced 33 year old woman who can play tennis, or a hot 27 never married no kids woman who doesn’t know any sports?

 

[SW15]

would you rather date a hot divorced 33 year old woman who can play tennis, or a hot 27 never married no kids woman who doesn’t know any sports?

I am a tennis player so I think this is worth me considering how I would approach this hypothetical.

TLDR: With the limited information provided, the 27 year old never married, no kids woman is likely the better option for either short or long term.

Both are substantially younger than I am and I like that.

It looks like the 33 year old woman was a childless divorcee. I don't think a childless divorce affects a woman's SMV that much. There's an argument that it is not that much different than a failed LTR without kids. Her staying childless is more valuable because it avoids the biggest baggage. That said, a divorce is a traumatic event, even an amicable, childless one. It is more public and more visible failure. Taking the big, legal step of marriage and not having it work out doesn't reflect well on the woman. In the case of a 33 year old woman who finds herself divorced, it was likely a short marriage (less than 5 years). It is relevant to know the specifics of why she's divorced and that's not going to happen without at least a few dates.

If the 33 year old woman is a competent tennis player, she likely is into fitness and an active lifestyle as a whole. I would find that appealing. I think we would have that commonality.

I'm interested in having an extended relationship but am less interested in marriage. Her failed marriage might not mean much in the long term given my goals, especially since she didn't have a child in it. If she's 33 and wanting a 2nd marriage and babies in short order, then that's going to be an issue for me in an extended relationship. 33 year olds like that also aren't going to want short term.

I like that the 27 year old is 6 years younger and likely to stay hotter longer than the 33 year old.

I'm interested to know what the 27 year old does to stay hot. Does she go to the gym/fitness classes? What are her other interests in life?

The 27 year old has likely had failed relationships too, just less evident failures. The 27 year old woman hasn't spent the previous 10-12 living like a chaste nun either. Her sexual/relationship history is also relevant and that's going to take time to discover. Fewer sex partners and LTRs is better than her having been a penis carousel rider for 10-12 years.

A childless 27 year old also has less of a ticking biological clock, which I would find appealing in the longer term. She is also more likely to be open to something shorter term too.

Youth and childlessness are the most appealing.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Just bumping this thread to mention a thought I had: it seems that as soon as you add a woman to something, the likelihood of it getting attention increases. For example, a video of an appliance technician on YouTube showing how to fix a dryer might get around 5,000 views. But if a woman is featured doing the same thing—teaching or fixing the dryer—the view count could be four times higher.

What’s the real purpose of the video below?

Raquel Salcedo on Instagram: "El postre perfecto para cuando quieras darte un gustico sin pecar! ✨ Ingredientes: 2 huevos 1/3 taza de mantequilla de maní 2 cucharadas de aceite de coco 1/4 taza de avena en hojuelas 1/2 taza de harina de almendras chocolate sin azúcar al gusto ✨ vainilla al gusto stevia al gusto #healthyfood #postresaludable #receta #recetasaludable"

6,593 likes, 49 comments - salcedoraquel on August 13, 2025: "El postre perfecto para cuando quieras darte un gustico sin pecar! ✨ Ingredientes: 2 huevos 1/3 taza de mantequilla de maní 2 cucharadas de aceite de coco 1/4 taza de avena en hojuelas 1/2 taza de harina de almendras...

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Disclaimer: I’m just assuming these numbers. I’m not saying they’re accurate—it’s just something that crossed my mind on the way home.

 

[SW15]

as soon as you add a woman to something, the likelihood of it getting attention increases.

That's the reason why Pearl has more YouTube subscribers than Fresh & Fit, Rollo Tomassi, or Rich Cooper.

Women help get attention to things on the internet.

There's so much simping on the internet.

Women get attention and women doing things that men like or having interest in help women get even more attention.

 

[tksniper]

In my experience women with male hobbies are the biggest "pick me" girls. They love attention and validation. They love to soak in the masculine energy.

Even ones that are attached, married, have families, etc.

Men and women are equal but we are drastically different. Imagine if I were to attend a yoga studio. Now I might do it for spiritual and health purposes. But if in surrounded by hot women? My ego would become the ultimate pick me guy.

Don't ever underestimate the human ego. When we are in an environment where we get attention and validation in abundance and for free, it becomes like crack cocaine.

I used to be part of a comic book club where there was one pick me girls. She hooked up with a few guys, caused a few guys to fight each other, it was chaos.