Chick says that she is "done having fun"

[MatureDJ]

 

[SW15]

That woman rode the penis carousel for many years and seems proud of it.

She needs to hide the past if she wants to land some beta for a committed relationship.

Most men will not want to commit if they find out about her past.

Her personality is terrible.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Avoid those type of girls man, gotta look where the quality women are at and they're not found in freakin clubs or dating apps. If you want a great experience your likely to find them spontaneously while your living your life, or at quality places like Yoga retreats, bookstores or a Positive volunteering event.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Lol, how ironic though, I'm preaching against dating apps in this post, but I'm talking about if you're living in hostile Western country but I'm at a South East Asian country right now where the women here are super laid back.

 

[SW15]

I'm preaching against dating apps in this post, but I'm talking about if you're living in hostile Western country

I think it is important to point out that your posts in this thread are related to the mating environments in Western countries.

look where the quality women are at and they're not found in freakin clubs or dating apps. If you want a great experience your likely to find them spontaneously while your living your life, or at quality places like Yoga retreats, bookstores or a Positive volunteering event.

This quote has blue pill ideology expressed in it.

The blue pill ideology likes to say that quality women are not found in nightlife venues or on dating apps. Like many parts of the blue pill, this is only a half truth. Mostly every heterosexual single person uses either nightlife venues or dating apps in an attempt to meet the opposite sex. Because both nightlife venues and dating apps are very common experiences for unattached people, there will be a combination of good quality people and low quality people in those settings.

Nightlife venues and dating apps are commonly used because they offer access to the opposite sex. With both nightlife venues and dating apps, access is easy and there's good quantity. The quantity and convenience factors are appealing. Dating apps are well known for their illusion of efficiency. Single men like the idea of swiping on hundreds to thousands of women in an afternoon while sitting at home looking unpresentable. Single women also like this idea because putting on makeup and looking presentable to the outside world takes effort.

There are downsides to both nightlife venues and dating apps. I think dating apps are the worse choice of the two.

Women aren't needing nightlife venues as much anymore because they can get more abundance from being on a swipe app and possibly their social media DMs than by making themselves look presentable and showing up to nightlife venues.

You mention yoga retreats, bookstores, and volunteering as ways to meet quality women. Let's consider what it looks like to try and meet women through these efforts.

Yoga retreats: Have you ever seen a yoga retreat event? I once saw a yoga retreat event when I was on vacation for an unrelated reason. The major of women at a yoga retreat that involves travel to it will already have husbands and boyfriends. It's true there are some unattached women that will go to a yoga retreat event, but the majority won't be. Many also will be 35+. The majority of women at a yoga retreat will not be open to be approached and having an extended conversation with some male approacher. Additionally, at a yoga retreat, there's a good chance that a male would be meeting women from cities other than the one where he lives.

Regular yoga classes in a standalone studio or as part of a big box gym are also options to meet women through yoga. With this option, he's meeting local women. Most women who attend yoga or other fitness classes are not very sociable immediately after a fitness class. Fitness classes are a bit of a waste of time in terms of pickup because of this. The lack of sociability is a major issue with all fitness class formats. I think a lot of women who go to local fitness classes are women with existing boyfriends. They don't disclose their boyfriend status at fitness classes though. There are women who will be passably polite in an approach at a fitness class but most won't engage in a meaningful way and the conversation will fizzle out within 30-60 seconds. 30-60 seconds isn't long enough to assess compatibility for a future social outing.

Bookstores: Going to bookstores to meet women is an idea that is decent in theory but fails to produce results in practice in most cases.

In my area, there are 2 main bookstore options.

1. A regional, discount bookstore chain. This regional chain only has one location is a singles dense area.
2. Barnes & Noble

I have done approaches at both places. Barnes & Noble is the superior choice for approaching and it isn't even close. The regional chain has worse mood lighting and interior furnishings. It doesn't feel seductive at all. Barnes & Noble has better lighting and a more comfortable environment.

However, there are few women who will be sociable if they are approached in a bookstore. Barnes & Noble gets better looking customers than the regional chain but even at B&N, there aren't a lot of good approach options and a lot of them won't be sociable either. It's not enjoyable to spend 3-4 hours in a Barnes & Noble location on a Saturday to try to find 1 woman who will agree to a Monday-Wednesday night first date. That's a typical outcome in Barnes & Noble, even in a B&N in a singles dense neighborhood.

Volunteering: Unattached males are often given the advice to volunteer from their blue pill ideology friends and acquaintances to order to meet women. I don't think volunteering works all that well in terms of finding dates and finding compatible relationships. A guy needs to be passionate about some volunteering cause in order to meet women through it. The women who volunteer at that cause must also be somewhat attractive. It's difficult to find that combination.


In the video in the first post, this is likely an interaction between some guy meeting some woman off of one of the Big 3 dating apps.

 

[MatureDJ]

I think it is important to point out that your posts in this thread are related to the mating environments in Western countries.



This quote has blue pill ideology expressed in it.

The blue pill ideology likes to say that quality women are not found in nightlife venues or on dating apps. Like many parts of the blue pill, this is only a half truth. Mostly every heterosexual single person uses either nightlife venues or dating apps in an attempt to meet the opposite sex. Because both nightlife venues and dating apps are very common experiences for unattached people, there will be a combination of good quality people and low quality people in those settings.

Nightlife venues and dating apps are commonly used because they offer access to the opposite sex. With both nightlife venues and dating apps, access is easy and there's good quantity. The quantity and convenience factors are appealing. Dating apps are well known for their illusion of efficiency. Single men like the idea of swiping on hundreds to thousands of women in an afternoon while sitting at home looking unpresentable. Single women also like this idea because putting on makeup and looking presentable to the outside world takes effort.

There are downsides to both nightlife venues and dating apps. I think dating apps are the worse choice of the two.

Women aren't needing nightlife venues as much anymore because they can get more abundance from being on a swipe app and possibly their social media DMs than by making themselves look presentable and showing up to nightlife venues.

You mention yoga retreats, bookstores, and volunteering as ways to meet quality women. Let's consider what it looks like to try and meet women through these efforts.

Yoga retreats: Have you ever seen a yoga retreat event? I once saw a yoga retreat event when I was on vacation for an unrelated reason. The major of women at a yoga retreat that involves travel to it will already have husbands and boyfriends. It's true there are some unattached women that will go to a yoga retreat event, but the majority won't be. Many also will be 35+. The majority of women at a yoga retreat will not be open to be approached and having an extended conversation with some male approacher. Additionally, at a yoga retreat, there's a good chance that a male would be meeting women from cities other than the one where he lives.

Regular yoga classes in a standalone studio or as part of a big box gym are also options to meet women through yoga. With this option, he's meeting local women. Most women who attend yoga or other fitness classes are not very sociable immediately after a fitness class. Fitness classes are a bit of a waste of time in terms of pickup because of this. The lack of sociability is a major issue with all fitness class formats. I think a lot of women who go to local fitness classes are women with existing boyfriends. They don't disclose their boyfriend status at fitness classes though. There are women who will be passably polite in an approach at a fitness class but most won't engage in a meaningful way and the conversation will fizzle out within 30-60 seconds. 30-60 seconds isn't long enough to assess compatibility for a future social outing.

Bookstores: Going to bookstores to meet women is an idea that is decent in theory but fails to produce results in practice in most cases.

In my area, there are 2 main bookstore options.

1. A regional, discount bookstore chain. This regional chain only has one location is a singles dense area.
2. Barnes & Noble

I have done approaches at both places. Barnes & Noble is the superior choice for approaching and it isn't even close. The regional chain has worse mood lighting and interior furnishings. It doesn't feel seductive at all. Barnes & Noble has better lighting and a more comfortable environment.

However, there are few women who will be sociable if they are approached in a bookstore. Barnes & Noble gets better looking customers than the regional chain but even at B&N, there aren't a lot of good approach options and a lot of them won't be sociable either. It's not enjoyable to spend 3-4 hours in a Barnes & Noble location on a Saturday to try to find 1 woman who will agree to a Monday-Wednesday night first date. That's a typical outcome in Barnes & Noble, even in a B&N in a singles dense neighborhood.

Volunteering: Unattached males are often given the advice to volunteer from their blue pill ideology friends and acquaintances to order to meet women. I don't think volunteering works all that well in terms of finding dates and finding compatible relationships. A guy needs to be passionate about some volunteering cause in order to meet women through it. The women who volunteer at that cause must also be somewhat attractive. It's difficult to find that combination.


In the video in the first post, this is likely an interaction between some guy meeting some woman off of one of the Big 3 dating apps.

I remember VolunteerMaxxing many years ago. When I showed up at the first event, there was this disgusting Latina whale there that made the comment, "oh, so nice to see another cute guys join us". I had liked to throw up right then and there.