quick question to those who are experienced.

[zekko]

Money: Losing money on bad investments and losing a job are ways to have money issues. Unemployment is a common way for a man who is a decent seducer to lose the ability to seduce women. Despite the fact that Roosh wrote the best guide to getting laid while unemployed (see below), it is actually quite difficult for most men to get laid while unemployed. Unemployed men in extended relationships are also commonly dumped by girlfriends or wives during unemployment.

You might think that a man who loses his job, and then gets dumped by his girlfriend or wife because the girl only cared about his money. And I'm sure that happens. But it's also common that a man gets a lot of his self identity and self esteem from his work, and losing a job can be very traumatic for some men, and can cause him to lose confidence, Which can cause a domino effect. I sort of get the feeling that most posters here don't place much self esteem in their work, but certainly I did when I was younger. Probably more common among older men, since they were raised to be able to provide - for themselves, if for no one else. Today most people seem to think the government owes them a living.

Anyway, there is also a thought that some people have, that people's lives goes through changes - sometimes they might say it changes every seven years. Job changes and relationship changes can be a part of this.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Job changes and relationship changes can be a part of this.

I did my ex wrong while I was unemployed. I feel like it’s too late to apologize at this point though. It was definitely a rough patch during my life.

 

[SW15]

while I was unemployed......It was definitely a rough patch during my life.

Male unemployment is often tough on a man's SMV, especially if he has a white collar look and has earned at least a bachelor's degree. Those men often have their SMV's tied closer to money.

When a conventional looking male with a bachelor's degree + and office type job becomes unemployed (usually due to corporate layoff - no fault of his own), he is likely to lose the girlfriend that he has. White collar job searches tend to take longer than most girlfriend stage women have patience to tolerate. Having a wife gives a man a little bit more time, but wives will often file for divorce during male unemployment. The man in a relationship loses his girlfriend/wife after a job loss and then becomes undesirable to attracting new women as an unattached man until he gets re-employed.

When the same male described above (bachelor's degree +, white collar) loses a job and is already single at the time of job loss, it's not as rough because he can't lose a girlfriend/wife that he doesn't have. However, he will often experience the same things that the dumped, unemployed guy will face as an unemployed guy.

Getting short term sex might be possible as an unemployed guy (if one follows the Roosh advice from 2011 - see below) but getting sex in any sort of sustainable relationship is going to be much more difficult for the conventional, corporate looking guy. For those men, re-employment is the best hope for extended relationships.

Getting Laid While Unemployed And Living In Your Dad’s Basement

For older men, the rules are somewhat different. If the guy is old enough (50-65) and has a decent net worth (often from childlessness and possibly an inheritance from a dead parent), he can claim early retirement and that might work for getting new women for extended relationships. Those older men are typically dealing with similarly aged women and there are some other issues there.

Blue collar and service sector men have their SMVs less affected by unemployment, but they also tend to attract different types of women.

Female SMV is less likely to be affected by unemployment than any male SMV.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Have you guys ever gotten reallly good with girls im talking same day approach lay and then lose that ability? Have you guys ever felt super confident and successful with women to turning into a huge loser with girls? just curious.

Not to the extreme you describe but I did once, so I voted yes. It was when I was very young. Basically went into college with a lot of confidence and then started to simp. I still got action just not how and who I wanted exactly. But I wasn't a loser chode, lol.

 

[Solomon]

Have you guys ever gotten reallly good with girls im talking same day approach lay and then lose that ability? Have you guys ever felt super confident and successful with women to turning into a huge loser with girls? just curious.

Yup usually those times are when crap is going on in my life which has nothing to do with women i.e. money, work, stress etc
It affects your mindset and psyche and carries over to dating

 

[typical]

Yes,

In my mid-teens to early twenties, I never had a problem getting chicks. Mind you, I played a ton of sports and was in excellent shape and just above the "Oh my god, he's over 6 feet tall" criteria.

Went to University, got Oneitis for this "Unicorn" chick, gained a serious amount of fat and became a loser. Found this place and turned my life around!

 

[darksprezzatura]

It’s like riding a bicycle