“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Last week I was on vacation with my parents, brother, and some friends in Ocean City for the week. In that time, it seems @LucianoM has resurfaced to ask a question, before immediately disappearing... @GoodMan32 has a new therapist and still isn't considering the gym yet... and @MatureDJ has kept up his usual cadence of 1 new, random post per day.

To mix it up, allow me to recount some of the fun I've had over this last week (hopefully) before I go to bed. Due to the expected length of this, I'll probably have OP for girl 103, and a reply for girl 104.

First, here are some honorable mentions:

There was an absolute bombshell I met on Monday at Fager's Island - easily the hottest girl of the trip. She was 32, and dating a man she had come there with who was 46 years old, complete with grey hair and all. Our group made some small talk with her and her man, and I didn't think much of it until she came inside the main bar before him to tell me she thought I was stunning, and "if only I were single". I tried to be sneaky and get her phone number, "just in case" things didn't work out with her man. But that didn't work out because she kept trying to vocally tell me all 10 digits, with loud music in the background, rather than just type it quickly into my phone.

There was another group that my brother and I almost bagged on Tuesday at Mackey's for an ABC-themed night. Both girls were teachers and lived together. We Ubered back to theirs and stayed up late listening to music and giving our girls massages in between makeouts. Apparently, the girls made a "pact" that they wouldn't sleep with us that night. My girl shied away when I got too close to her boobs during the massage, so I stopped there. My brother got a bit further, ended up sucking nips and some dry humping, but still no sex. This was particularly annoying because we had to set an alarm and leave very early in the morning, while Ubering over 100 streets back to our hotel with massive hangovers.

But let's talk about the ones that DID close...

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My family has a timeshare right on the boardwalk where we've all been going since I was a kid. Some things changed; my sister had a mental breakdown and disowned us, our grandparents, who also had a timeshare at this same hotel, and used to host family dinners for us, died, and our cousins started coming down to share that room, before taking it and visiting that same week after they died.

This year, they had other plans, so it would be my mom, dad, brother, and some other friends who would come down to visit us during this week. This happens the same Saturday - Saturday, every July, and is often the highlight of my summer due to the boredom of living in Delaware. Just for some context.

Saturday is Seacrets night, and soon after arriving, unpacking, and pregaming, that's where my brother and I would go. Our friends and neighbors hadn't arrived yet, so it would just be us tonight. Fridays are usually better than Saturdays, but it was still a pretty good turnout. My brother and I alternate between buying rounds, walking around the place, and just looking around to see who we like.

In the Nite Club section, there was a tall, busty, very fit blonde woman with short hair. I went up to her and found out she was a good bit older than I thought (41) and was Brazilian, despite being so white that I thought she was Russian. Imagine what you think a female Ivan Drago would look like, add big boobs, and that was her. I don't remember much of the conversation beyond the introduction, but I ended up getting her number, having a short makeout with her, and then continuing my walk around the club (I do not remember why I left after the makeout).

Anyway, I eventually circle back, and she's at the same spot - but with some other guy hanging onto her from behind. We make eye contact, I smirk to let her know I see that she's playing games, and I go to order a drink.

I forget how this next introduction started, but she had a similarly cute friend who was hanging around us when I was talking to the "Russian". Short, also Brazilian (if I remember right), also older (37), with fake boobs, a pretty face, and quite tan. At this point in the night, I was pretty heavily intoxicated. I believe I started hitting on her, she remarked that "weren't you just with her (the friend)?", to which I replied "yeah, but it looks like she's busy". We had a few drinks together, danced a little bit, and I ended up making out with her too.

Soon afterwards, she asked me if I was ready to leave. So we did, and Ubered back to the hotel she was staying at with some other friend of hers who was trying to sleep when we arrived. Unfortunately, this friend was rather vocal in being annoyed any time we made too much sound...each time we started having sex and she moaned, or the bed creaked, or whatever...this girl was complaining about trying to get sleep. We even moved outside onto her balcony for a bit, but that didn't work for long either.

Eventually, she apologized, but told me she had to kick me out because her friend was being so difficult, so I Ubered back to my hotel and passed out. I had her number and ended up texting her the next day, trying to invite her over for a quickie since she had to check out Sunday. I was so hungover that I got in touch with her too late, and she was already on the road to beat the traffic. She followed me on Instagram and routinely liked my story posts throughout the entire vacation.

Sadly, because of the friend's constant interference, the sex never went to "completion"...as in, I never finished. But we both had a good time, and it was a strong start to the vacation.
 

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Funny enough, despite all the other bars we visited throughout this week, this girl was ALSO somebody I'd meet at Seacrets. On Thursday, we had more of a crew; it was me, my brother, and 2 of his friends who came to visit. We all went to (formerly) the best spot on a Thursday night: Guido's Burritos.

Last year it was dead, but so was Fish Tales, which was much more fun this year, so we gave it a look - turns out it's completely closed on Thursday nights now. So we all went a bit further down the street to the only place we knew would at least be decent tonight: Seacrets.

It was much quieter, with sections closed off due to the lower population. My brother and his friends all like going into the Nite Club and heading deep into the crowd of people collecting in front of whatever band is performing on stage. Personally, I prefer to be on the outside, looking in, to see if there were any girls I wanted to talk to. That girl ended up being a pretty blonde with her friend, who was standing only a few short feet away from me, watching the same crowd I was.

At first, I wasn't sure if I wanted to approach her. There was a guy who kept orbiting and talking to her specifically. She was friendly with him, and it looked like they knew each other, so I assumed he was her boyfriend. Given some more time, he would go off and do his own thing, so I decided that chance was low.

I introduced myself by saying exactly that: I thought she was cute, but figured that was her boyfriend. I told her that I was here with the guys in the crowd I pointed out, but that the mosh pit isn't my thing. She explained to me that she and her friend are sommeliers and that they came here after work. I pointed out that my drink was getting low and asked if she wanted to get one with me. She and her friend obliged who knew the bartender, so he served us all very quickly. I tried to pay, and the friend told me it was fine. So I tried to pay for the next round, and these girls simply would not let me pay.

The funny thing about this is that my guys found me talking to them and were hanging around, making faces because it was my turn to buy their round. I shooed them off and continued enjoying my time with the blonde. The friend gave us plenty of space. I asked her if she wanted to come out onto the dancefloor, and we danced a little before I started leaning towards her for a kiss. She saw what I was doing and promptly told me she couldn't, explaining that she thought I was attractive, but that one of her exes is a barback at Seacrets, and didn't want to mess around with anybody in front of him to be disrespectful.

I didn't take it personally, telling her I understood, but that I think she's gorgeous and that she should give me her number just in case she changes her mind. I get it, text her so she has mine, tell her it was nice meeting her, then move on with my night.

I go outside to grab myself another drink and get some air. Soon afterwards, I checked my phone, and this girl texted me asking if she could see me before I leave. I told her she certainly could, and she tells me that she's at the same spot she left me. So I find her again - this time with her friend gone - and she leads me around the back of the stage. The vibe completely shifted, and now she's very touchy, dancing on me, and we go into a full-blown makeout almost immediately. I asked her what had changed, and she told me that her ex wasn't working tonight.

We continue this trend of dancing, making out, and having a few more drinks before she suggests leaving. I tell her that I'm very in agreement, so she orders us an Uber back to her place. Her roommates were either gone or asleep, so it was straight to her bedroom. She was a lot of fun...slim blonde, small but perky boobs, tan, blue eyes, and VERY enthusiastic (32 years old, by the way). We had sex until she was too sore to continue...and even when she couldn't, she woke me in the morning to give me head, and woke me up later AGAIN to give me a handy...something which NEVER gets me off, but she certainly made it happen every time.

I didn't leave until 2PM, and she would've been happy for me to stay longer, as she didn't have work until 4PM, but I felt I had to get my life together and spend some time back at the hotel on the beach with my boys. I told her we would probably be at Seacrets again tonight, and she said she would see if she could make it after work.

And that's exactly what she did...

Honestly, I would've liked to potentially explore and meet some new women on my last night there, but she had gotten herself dolled up straight after work, and came there only to see me: paid the cover to get in, bought us a bottle of wine for her place, ordered the Uber, everything. And I paid her back by making sure I got her off this time, first. She was texting me about it all the way into Saturday night when I had gotten back home from the beach. She lives there, so I told her that I might see her next year, and that I had a wonderful last night of my trip.

That last night, a buddy of ours who came out with us that night also ended up getting laid on the beach with some girl. My girl brought a friend, and I initially tried to hook them up, but she was doing her own thing, so he went off on his own as well.

My brother almost got laid, but the girl he was talking to ended up getting drunk and falling asleep at the bar, and had to be kicked out.

Overall, it was a pretty fun trip. I don't want to think about how much money I spent, but I had a great time, and I look forward to next year.
 

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OCMD was one of the messiest weeks of my college life, never hit Seacrets just did house parties during the first week of summer (spring break to the locals) - funny enough my girlfriend in school had hooked us up with an apartment at another girls place I am still not sure how, but it was all of us, two different rooms obviously, me and my girl and the homeowner (or daughter of most likely) … and I am juiced coming back after getting smoked up which is Marylands other major hobby besides crabs and drinking natty light - so again, for reasons known only to our creator my host and I are driving back in her car and my girl is in another car and the host puts the moves on me before she got back - then my dad called my girls dad the following day and blew me up for being there when I was supposed to be at his place which was probably perfect timing - one of the best days of my life in school
 

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Funny enough, despite all the other bars we visited throughout this week, this girl was ALSO somebody I'd meet at Seacrets. On Thursday, we had more of a crew; it was me, my brother, and 2 of his friends who came to visit. We all went to (formerly) the best spot on a Thursday night: Guido's Burritos.

Last year it was dead, but so was Fish Tales, which was much more fun this year, so we gave it a look - turns out it's completely closed on Thursday nights now. So we all went a bit further down the street to the only place we knew would at least be decent tonight: Seacrets.

It was much quieter, with sections closed off due to the lower population. My brother and his friends all like going into the Nite Club and heading deep into the crowd of people collecting in front of whatever band is performing on stage. Personally, I prefer to be on the outside, looking in, to see if there were any girls I wanted to talk to. That girl ended up being a pretty blonde with her friend, who was standing only a few short feet away from me, watching the same crowd I was.

At first, I wasn't sure if I wanted to approach her. There was a guy who kept orbiting and talking to her specifically. She was friendly with him, and it looked like they knew each other, so I assumed he was her boyfriend. Given some more time, he would go off and do his own thing, so I decided that chance was low.

I introduced myself by saying exactly that: I thought she was cute, but figured that was her boyfriend. I told her that I was here with the guys in the crowd I pointed out, but that the mosh pit isn't my thing. She explained to me that she and her friend are sommeliers and that they came here after work. I pointed out that my drink was getting low and asked if she wanted to get one with me. She and her friend obliged who knew the bartender, so he served us all very quickly. I tried to pay, and the friend told me it was fine. So I tried to pay for the next round, and these girls simply would not let me pay.

The funny thing about this is that my guys found me talking to them and were hanging around, making faces because it was my turn to buy their round. I shooed them off and continued enjoying my time with the blonde. The friend gave us plenty of space. I asked her if she wanted to come out onto the dancefloor, and we danced a little before I started leaning towards her for a kiss. She saw what I was doing and promptly told me she couldn't, explaining that she thought I was attractive, but that one of her exes is a barback at Seacrets, and didn't want to mess around with anybody in front of him to be disrespectful.

I didn't take it personally, telling her I understood, but that I think she's gorgeous and that she should give me her number just in case she changes her mind. I get it, text her so she has mine, tell her it was nice meeting her, then move on with my night.

I go outside to grab myself another drink and get some air. Soon afterwards, I checked my phone, and this girl texted me asking if she could see me before I leave. I told her she certainly could, and she tells me that she's at the same spot she left me. So I find her again - this time with her friend gone - and she leads me around the back of the stage. The vibe completely shifted, and now she's very touchy, dancing on me, and we go into a full-blown makeout almost immediately. I asked her what had changed, and she told me that her ex wasn't working tonight.

We continue this trend of dancing, making out, and having a few more drinks before she suggests leaving. I tell her that I'm very in agreement, so she orders us an Uber back to her place. Her roommates were either gone or asleep, so it was straight to her bedroom. She was a lot of fun...slim blonde, small but perky boobs, tan, blue eyes, and VERY enthusiastic (32 years old, by the way). We had sex until she was too sore to continue...and even when she couldn't, she woke me in the morning to give me head, and woke me up later AGAIN to give me a handy...something which NEVER gets me off, but she certainly made it happen every time.

I didn't leave until 2PM, and she would've been happy for me to stay longer, as she didn't have work until 4PM, but I felt I had to get my life together and spend some time back at the hotel on the beach with my boys. I told her we would probably be at Seacrets again tonight, and she said she would see if she could make it after work.

And that's exactly what she did...

Honestly, I would've liked to potentially explore and meet some new women on my last night there, but she had gotten herself dolled up straight after work, and came there only to see me: paid the cover to get in, bought us a bottle of wine for her place, ordered the Uber, everything. And I paid her back by making sure I got her off this time, first. She was texting me about it all the way into Saturday night when I had gotten back home from the beach. She lives there, so I told her that I might see her next year, and that I had a wonderful last night of my trip.

That last night, a buddy of ours who came out with us that night also ended up getting laid on the beach with some girl. My girl brought a friend, and I initially tried to hook them up, but she was doing her own thing, so he went off on his own as well.

My brother almost got laid, but the girl he was talking to ended up getting drunk and falling asleep at the bar, and had to be kicked out.

Overall, it was a pretty fun trip. I don't want to think about how much money I spent, but I had a great time, and I look forward to next year.
Nice work on 104, meh 103. Do you prefer quantity over quality?

also ocmd is not that far from Delaware as a matter of fact it’s adjacent. Why not keep the relationship open?
 

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Sadly, because of the friend's constant interference, the sex never went to "completion"...as in, I never finished. But we both had a good time, and it was a strong start to the vacation.
I dislike when sex does not result in me having an orgasm. For women, that's a more common occurrence than for men.

Guido's Burritos
That's an odd name for a restaurant. Guido is a slang term for an Italian-American and burritos originated in Mexico.

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That girl ended up being a pretty blonde with her friend, who was standing only a few short feet away from me, watching the same crowd I was.

At first, I wasn't sure if I wanted to approach her. There was a guy who kept orbiting and talking to her specifically. She was friendly with him, and it looked like they knew each other, so I assumed he was her boyfriend. Given some more time, he would go off and do his own thing, so I decided that chance was low.

I introduced myself by saying exactly that: I thought she was cute, but figured that was her boyfriend. I told her that I was here with the guys in the crowd I pointed out, but that the mosh pit isn't my thing. She explained to me that she and her friend are sommeliers and that they came here after work. I pointed out that my drink was getting low and asked if she wanted to get one with me. She and her friend obliged who knew the bartender, so he served us all very quickly. I tried to pay, and the friend told me it was fine. So I tried to pay for the next round, and these girls simply would not let me pay.

The funny thing about this is that my guys found me talking to them and were hanging around, making faces because it was my turn to buy their round. I shooed them off and continued enjoying my time with the blonde. The friend gave us plenty of space. I asked her if she wanted to come out onto the dancefloor, and we danced a little before I started leaning towards her for a kiss. She saw what I was doing and promptly told me she couldn't, explaining that she thought I was attractive, but that one of her exes is a barback at Seacrets, and didn't want to mess around with anybody in front of him to be disrespectful.

I didn't take it personally, telling her I understood, but that I think she's gorgeous and that she should give me her number just in case she changes her mind. I get it, text her so she has mine, tell her it was nice meeting her, then move on with my night.

I go outside to grab myself another drink and get some air. Soon afterwards, I checked my phone, and this girl texted me asking if she could see me before I leave. I told her she certainly could, and she tells me that she's at the same spot she left me. So I find her again - this time with her friend gone - and she leads me around the back of the stage. The vibe completely shifted, and now she's very touchy, dancing on me, and we go into a full-blown makeout almost immediately. I asked her what had changed, and she told me that her ex wasn't working tonight.

We continue this trend of dancing, making out, and having a few more drinks before she suggests leaving. I tell her that I'm very in agreement, so she orders us an Uber back to her place. Her roommates were either gone or asleep, so it was straight to her bedroom. She was a lot of fun...slim blonde, small but perky boobs, tan, blue eyes, and VERY enthusiastic (32 years old, by the way). We had sex until she was too sore to continue...and even when she couldn't, she woke me in the morning to give me head, and woke me up later AGAIN to give me a handy...something which NEVER gets me off, but she certainly made it happen every time.
This is a good one. She was DTF because of your looks and charisma. She had to make sure her ex wasn't in the venue to avoid drama. It's wise to avoid drama. You wanted to fucck her because of her looks too. The physical attraction + alcohol is the perfect combination to get some fast sex.
 
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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Is it weird trying and/or having sex in the same room or unit as your brother?”

Why don’t your friends get laid? Is it because they don’t want to, they’re shy, or just not attractive?
 
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Nice work on 104, meh 103. Do you prefer quantity over quality?

also ocmd is not that far from Delaware as a matter of fact it’s adjacent. Why not keep the relationship open?
Definitely quality. The quantity is just a byproduct of looking for quality often enough. There are plenty of nights when I'll leave early or opt to go home alone because I didn't find anybody I wanted. I've only ever been in 3 serious relationships, where the longest was only for about a year. It's also been a little more than 3 years since my last girlfriend.

Where I live in northern Delaware is about a 2.5-hour drive to Ocean City. It wouldn't be the most unreasonable drive in the world, but I also have 2 girls in Philadelphia who are much closer.

That's an odd name for a restaurant. Guido is a slang term for an Italian-American and burritos originated in Mexico.
I couldn't tell ya...they have another location on the boardwalk that's much smaller, but somewhat popular. They have a 60-oz margarita that made for a pretty fun pregame one year.

I still really enjoy this vacation spot, but it's much less fun than it was pre-COVID and pre-OnlyFans. Places shut down, hot girls aren't as common, bars aren't as packed, etc.

I genuinely think this world would have been so much better off if those 2 things had never happened.

Is it weird trying and/or having sex in the same room or unit as your brother?”
Not really. There was one particularly fun night out in Atlantic City years ago where we shared a room and I brought back a chick. In the morning, we had sex again when he rolled over and opened his eyes and saw what the noise was. We had the covers on, but he saw our heads and knew what was happening, smirked, rolled over, and went back to sleep.

Otherwise, we're not usually in the same place. What happened with the 2 girls on this vacation was pretty tame; the only thing we were doing in front of each other was making out with our girls. Each girl had a separate bedroom. Mine went to sleep, his stayed awake for a little fun.

Why don’t your friends get laid? Is it because they don’t want to, they’re shy, or just not attractive?
For clarification, with the exception of one of our "neighbor friend" (who comes with his family the same time every year, and got to know our family), the guys that visit are more my brother's friends than mine. Mine rarely make it each year for one reason or another. They don't get laid much either, but most of them are in long-term relationships.

The neighbor friend is pretty good-looking. He's in good shape, with tattoos, but is a little shorter at around 5'9". He got laid this trip. He had a really hot girlfriend the year before, which he told me he f***ed up by cheating on her.

The first of my brother's friends who comes down every year just got engaged to a girl he'd been with for 7 years. Before that, he didn't get laid too much. Decent-looking guy, but doesn't try very hard and enjoys chubby women, including his fiancée.

The other of my brother's friends visited us for the first time this year. He's a nice enough guy, but he's overweight and doesn't have the best social awareness (he wore an Eagles jersey to Seacrets, a beach bar). My brother told him that I offer coaching, which he seems interested in, so I may be able to help him out a bit.
 
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Guido's Burritos.
they have another location on the boardwalk that's much smaller, but somewhat popular. They have a 60-oz margarita that made for a pretty fun pregame one year.
A 60 ounce margarita will get many people intoxicated.

I still really enjoy this vacation spot, but it's much less fun than it was pre-COVID and pre-OnlyFans. Places shut down, hot girls aren't as common, bars aren't as packed, etc.

I genuinely think this world would have been so much better off if those 2 things had never happened.
COVID accelerated some trends in nightlife that likely would have happened without the pandemic.

The generation born in the late 1990s and 2000s was raised with technology during the 2010s. Their social skills were deficient even without a lockdown. Gen Z isn't as comfortable with real life socialization. Millennials have slightly better social skills than Gen Z, but even the tech of the 2000s diminished the social skills of Millennials.

In my freshman year dorm in 2001-2002, it was common for my dorm mates to send messages on AOL Instant Messenger instead of picking up a telephone to make phone calls. AOL Instant Messenger was a precursor to cell phone texting.

The technological advances of the 2000s and 2010s have made it more fashionable to self isolate and not go out to bars as much to meet people.

For seduction, bars are still useful to a lot of Millennials/Gen Z for hosting app and DM arranged first and second dates.

OnlyFans is a 2010s era technology that has had some impact. Guys might get their socialization needs from OnlyFans thots instead of going to bars, but the type of guys who would do that are the types of guys who would be invisible to women at bars anyways. Some women can get more money from their OF accounts as compared to the free drinks that they'd get at bars.

I think OF has affected strip clubs more than conventional bars.
 

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Starts to feel like a humbe brag or a way to look for validation from strangerson the internet. I don't know bro...

Why do you even remember the number if its into the triple digits? I seriously can't remember how many women I slept with. I won't remember names faces are blurred, situation from many years ago ect.

And why don't they come back? EVERY WOMAN I slept with came back untill it became clear I wasn't gonna give her a relationship. But if you give it to her right she will at least come back a couple of times
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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COVID accelerated some trends in nightlife that likely would have happened without the pandemic.
While I agree that some of the younger generations were already doomed by way of technology, COVID did irreversible damage to a lot of places.

Coastal Cowboy was a very popular bar in Ocean City for only 1 year, because they were the only bar that ignored COVID restrictions and social distancing rules. We had one particularly great night there, then never again. It was closed.

Guido's Burritos was a great spot on Thursday nights. Post-COVID, it became less and less popular, until now, when it's closed on Thursday nights entirely.

The college bar that I frequent nearby has established much tighter restrictions on how many patrons can be inside at once.

It definitely ruined a lot of fun spots.

I think OF has affected strip clubs more than conventional bars.
It probably had a massive effect on the po*n industry and strip clubs, but I would say it also affected the bars. Very attractive women no longer need to go to these places to meet men. They are in their DMs, subsidizing trips to Dubai, Miami, or LA. Why would they put time and effort into seeing who's at the bar when they can read through a couple of messages and have some rich sugar daddy/simp willing to satisfy their every want.

Starts to feel like a humbe brag or a way to look for validation from strangerson the internet. I don't know bro...

Why do you even remember the number if its into the triple digits? I seriously can't remember how many women I slept with. I won't remember names faces are blurred, situation from many years ago ect.

And why don't they come back? EVERY WOMAN I slept with came back untill it became clear I wasn't gonna give her a relationship. But if you give it to her right she will at least come back a couple of times
On a forum where 90% of the posts are blackpill dooming, random minmax theorycrafts, and @MatureDJ posting whichever article comes across his feed, I think it helps to remind people that guys are still getting laid in this dystopian dating landscape.

I believe it was @BadBoy89 who asked a similar question about how I remember my body count. I'm very organized and have a great memory, and that extends into my dating life. My younger cousins once made a group chat where the name was each of our body counts, so I updated that once in a while. Now I've just taken that and made it a note in my phone, since they never do anything anymore.

I remember exes, my early lays, my most recent lays, and particularly memorable ones (good and bad).

Also, they do come back, I'm not sure what you mean...

The girl I slept with in Philadelphia saw me two nights straight and wanted to see me before vacation.

The 103 girl wanted me to come visit her, but she's all the way in Washington, DC, which would've been a 3-hour drive.

And the 104 girl did see me the very next night, too, as mentioned above.

Or are you talking about in general? I had a couple of long-term plates that fell off, most recently one whose cat died that she's been grieving since February, and another who wanted something more serious and realized that wouldn't happen with me.
 

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your posts confirm blackpill though, tbh! haha
every lay is 'girl walked up to me and said I was hot' kinda thing lol. But that's the way it goes. My old wingman would have been teh best PUA ton walk plant earth and I wish he'd have done infields to melt peoples brains! He got hit on hard by hot young girls about 6 times per night lol
(closest I can see online is probably that King68greatt or something like that? (can't quite think of his name)

keep going! try to beat that john anthony guy with the apparent 5k lay count or something I tihnk?


Why do you even remember the number if its into the triple digits
i'm somewhere in the 70's I think, but I stopped properly counting at about 15 I think.
 

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While I agree that some of the younger generations were already doomed by way of technology, COVID did irreversible damage to a lot of places.

Coastal Cowboy was a very popular bar in Ocean City for only 1 year, because they were the only bar that ignored COVID restrictions and social distancing rules. We had one particularly great night there, then never again. It was closed.

Guido's Burritos was a great spot on Thursday nights. Post-COVID, it became less and less popular, until now, when it's closed on Thursday nights entirely.

The college bar that I frequent nearby has established much tighter restrictions on how many patrons can be inside at once.

It definitely ruined a lot of fun spots.



It probably had a massive effect on the po*n industry and strip clubs, but I would say it also affected the bars. Very attractive women no longer need to go to these places to meet men. They are in their DMs, subsidizing trips to Dubai, Miami, or LA. Why would they put time and effort into seeing who's at the bar when they can read through a couple of messages and have some rich sugar daddy/simp willing to satisfy their every want.



On a forum where 90% of the posts are blackpill dooming, random minmax theorycrafts, and @MatureDJ posting whichever article comes across his feed, I think it helps to remind people that guys are still getting laid in this dystopian dating landscape.

I believe it was @BadBoy89 who asked a similar question about how I remember my body count. I'm very organized and have a great memory, and that extends into my dating life. My younger cousins once made a group chat where the name was each of our body counts, so I updated that once in a while. Now I've just taken that and made it a note in my phone, since they never do anything anymore.

I remember exes, my early lays, my most recent lays, and particularly memorable ones (good and bad).

Also, they do come back, I'm not sure what you mean...

The girl I slept with in Philadelphia saw me two nights straight and wanted to see me before vacation.

The 103 girl wanted me to come visit her, but she's all the way in Washington, DC, which would've been a 3-hour drive.

And the 104 girl did see me the very next night, too, as mentioned above.

Or are you talking about in general? I had a couple of long-term plates that fell off, most recently one whose cat died that she's been grieving since February, and another who wanted something more serious and realized that wouldn't happen with me.
Tbh I was kinda annoyed today and I appreciate your explanation. Sometimes I'm just like that, on a devil's advocate type thing.
 
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Starts to feel like a humbe brag or a way to look for validation from strangerson the internet. I don't know bro...

Why do you even remember the number if its into the triple digits? I seriously can't remember how many women I slept with. I won't remember names faces are blurred, situation from many years ago ect.

And why don't they come back? EVERY WOMAN I slept with came back untill it became clear I wasn't gonna give her a relationship. But if you give it to her right she will at least come back a couple of times
Yes, I wonder about the veracity of these posts. Those that don't do, brag. :rolleyes:
 

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Yes, I wonder about the veracity of these posts. Those that don't do, brag. :rolleyes:
I personally DO believe him but yeah, there's always that feeling when reading lay reports.

The ones on 'skill seducer' read like PURE fiction to me, and I'm always amazed that everyone just buys them lol. They are all written like someone is trying to pass their english lit. creative writing exam - and I think a lot of them by the same writer. Maybe even 'chase' himself!! (since he tries to market a particular brand of verbal game)
 

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they do come back, I'm not sure what you mean...

Or are you talking about in general? I had a couple of long-term plates that fell off, most recently one whose cat died that she's been grieving since February, and another who wanted something more serious and realized that wouldn't happen with me.
In general, many high notch count guys are not good with retention. Retention is often not a priority to high notch count men.

Same night sex after a bar approach often does not lead to repeated sex. The probability of same night sex off of a bar approach leading to a 1 year+ committed relationship is low.

First date sex (date arranged either via tech or an in-person approach) also doesn't often lead to longer term committed relationships.

Getting short term casual sex (6 months or less) off of same night sex or first date sex is also somewhat low.

I think OF has affected strip clubs more than conventional bars.
It probably had a massive effect on the po*n industry and strip clubs, but I would say it also affected the bars. Very attractive women no longer need to go to these places to meet men. They are in their DMs, subsidizing trips to Dubai, Miami, or LA. Why would they put time and effort into seeing who's at the bar when they can read through a couple of messages and have some rich sugar daddy/simp willing to satisfy their every want.
I think that attractive women 20 years ago needed nightlife venues more than they do now. The evolution of the internet/social media has changed that.

The DM factor that you mention is more of an Instagram phenomenon than an OnlyFans phenomenon. Many OF women use their IG as a funnel for OF.

There are plenty of women receiving DMs on IG that don't have an OF or even do offline low level sex work, like stripping or bartending/waitressing at Hooters/Twin Peaks.
 

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your posts confirm blackpill though, tbh! haha
every lay is 'girl walked up to me and said I was hot' kinda thing lol. But that's the way it goes.
Looks definitely helped, but that's not all that happened here.

With girl 103, I know plenty of guys who would've tried to rationalize to the girl why they just monkey-branched from the friend I was just making out with, to her. Plenty of dudes would've shot themselves in the foot by trying to make logical sense rather than just saying "yeah" and moving forward like I did here.

With girl 104, I can think of at least a few members from this forum who would've taken the kiss rejection more personally and blown out the possibility of the interaction continuing later that night. They might simply take it as a "no" rather than as a "not right now". They might think they'd need to recalibrate the interaction from the beginning when she invited me back, instead of picking up where we left off, understanding that her choice to text me was her reconsidering my offer.

These aren't nuanced takes, but being hot just gets your foot in the door. You still have to not be an idiot - and I know plenty of guys like that.

My old wingman would have been teh best PUA ton walk plant earth and I wish he'd have done infields to melt peoples brains! He got hit on hard by hot young girls about 6 times per night lol
(closest I can see online is probably that King68greatt or something like that? (can't quite think of his name)
I had friends like that, too. Their problem was that they didn't have the confidence to approach women they liked. They were so used to being opened that they never had to learn how to do it themselves. But if he's super tall, rich, black, living in Miami like that King68 guy, then I would expect that of him.

keep going! try to beat that john anthony guy with the apparent 5k lay count or something I tihnk?
I mathed it out, that's a new lay every single day, for 13.5 years straight. Those are Lily Phillips/Bonnie Blue numbers. I wouldn't believe a count like that unless they were doing org*es every day or something.

Yes, I wonder about the veracity of these posts. Those that don't do, brag. :rolleyes:
Better than the latest "It's Over for (insert)Cels" that you toss up every day...

I think that attractive women 20 years ago needed nightlife venues more than they do now. The evolution of the internet/social media has changed that.

The DM factor that you mention is more of an Instagram phenomenon than an OnlyFans phenomenon. Many OF women use their IG as a funnel for OF.

There are plenty of women receiving DMs on IG that don't have an OF or even do offline low level sex work, like stripping or bartending/waitressing at Hooters/Twin Peaks.
I'll agree with that.

Instagram has been around much longer than OnlyFans, but the pandemic shifted everybody onto those platforms, and once the pandemic ended, men were still lonely and willing to pay for attention.

I'm just lamenting how it's destroyed some really great venues. Harrah's in Atlantic City is responsible for probably the best night out I've ever had in my life...I got paid, I got a free room, met a good friend, skipped the line and went straight to VIP with that friend's girlfriends, and ended up banging one of them out. Didn't cost me a dime, got drunk, got paid, got laid. This is the same place I met my longest-term girlfriend on a different night.

Nowadays, they only have 2 of the bars by the pool active, and everybody is in front of the DJ rather than spread throughout the entire pool section, as it used to be.
 

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Instagram has been around much longer than OnlyFans, but the pandemic shifted everybody onto those platforms, and once the pandemic ended, men were still lonely and willing to pay for attention.
Male loneliness has gotten worse due to a number of technological innovations since the 2000s.

I'm just lamenting how it's destroyed some really great venues.
Nightlife in my city isn't as good as it once was. The scene has changed here in the last 10+ years and I think the pandemic is only one factor in it. I think a lot of those venues would have gotten worse even without a pandemic.

On a forum where 90% of the posts are blackpill dooming, random minmax theorycrafts, and @MatureDJ posting whichever article comes across his feed, I think it helps to remind people that guys are still getting laid in this dystopian dating landscape.
The black pill ideology has been growing faster than the red pill ideology for the past 7-10 years.

It's good to show others that guys are still getting laid in this dystopian dating landscape.
 
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