Are your dating problems actual problems or excuses?

[Vanderdonck]

I was valedictorian. I tried asking the salutatorian chick to the prom. She still turned me down and so did five other chicks.

pffft they were just INTIMIDATED by your intelligence.

 

[SW15]

its a man's DNA to be attracted to younger women. Her youth, her freshness, her estrogen, it really turns him on.

That's true and very appealing.

Generally, all men want from a woman is her youth. That's it. Anything else they don't care about. When a woman gives a man her youth, he will likely love her for a long time. When a woman doesn't give a man her youth, he could almost care less about her, she is very replaceable.

This is interesting. I agree that there's an oddity with later in life longer term relationships. When a man and woman start a relationship when both are 35+, they lived a good portion of their lives without the other person present. In those cases, the man starting a relationship with a woman 35+ never got to experience her youth. This is even worse as a woman ages. Imagine starting a relationship with a 55-60 year old woman. Many older men do this.

There's something appealing about starting a relationship with a woman earlier in life and growing with her. This doesn't happen with starting a relationship with a 40 year woman, even if that relationship lasts 20+ years.

Now if you are talking companionship, going on trips, going to restaurants, going with friends; then yes, a man prefers a woman around his age

Companionship without sex isn't meaningful. Men can do many of the companionship things with other male friends in theory.

In practice, unattached men tend to find out that their male friends become less available for companionship once those male friends marry and typically have children after the marriage.

This is part of what motivates unattached men to seek longer term relationships with similarly aged women.

A woman won't have sex with a shorter man even if he looks good and keeps fit.

Mostly true.

for all the anger women feel for men liking younger women, a man will still have sex with an older woman if she keeps fit a looks good.

That "older woman" might be older in general, but could be younger than he is. There's usually a market for aging women as they are enough thirsty older men.

So for the 2 top things that attract the opposite sex to each other (youth for men, height for women), women still win.

Brutal.

Very brutal.

 

[CornbreadFed]

What we are really talking about is poor social intelligence. There's lots of athletes for example, smart, good grades/gpa's, that go onto take challenging technical subjects @ University.

They have the golden IQ, smart enough to be considered highly intelligent but still able to connect emotionally with people of average and lower IQ levels. This makes them perfect for leadership and management roles. Above that range, you start entering Zeta or Omega male territory, where you become emotionally disconnected from the masses.

 

[SW15]

poor social intelligence.

It is common for those with high book/academic intelligence to have poor social intelligence.

There's lots of athletes for example, smart, good grades/gpa's, that go onto take challenging technical subjects @ University.

Many athletes have easy majors too and don't do much with their bachelor's degrees if they are even able to get them.

I don' know what it was like dating 1980s, 1990's even early 2000s but I have seen shows like Saved By The Bell. The smart guy, Screech, was portraye as a really dorky, poorly dressed guy with a rakish build (yet he was still part of the 'cool' group?)

Saved By The Bell was not a realistic portrayal of high school in that era. A.C. Slater would have had good social standing in high school as a 2 sport athlete in football and wrestling.

They have the golden IQ, smart enough to be considered highly intelligent but still able to connect emotionally with people of average and lower IQ levels. This makes them perfect for leadership and management roles. Above that range, you start entering Zeta or Omega male territory, where you become emotionally disconnected from the masses.

I agree with the golden IQ concept. That is a strong IQ for book smart with reasonably high EQ/social intelligence.

 

[MatureDJ]

I was valedictorian. I tried asking the salutatorian chick to the prom. She still turned me down and so did five other chicks.

It's OVER for HighGPACels.

 

[MatureDJ]

But for sex? It's always attraction for the younger woman, generally below 27. Generally, all men want from a woman is her youth. That's it. Anything else they don't care about. When a woman gives a man her youth, he will likely love her for a long time. When a woman doesn't give a man her youth, he could almost care less about her, she is very replaceable.

I agree with this.

Now before women freak out, if you switch it around, the same thing applies when it comes to a man's height. It's a woman's DNA to be attracted to a tall man, over 6'0. It's not something that can be controlled. A woman will always want to have sex with a tall man than a short man.

Ragefuel.

And for all the anger women feel for men liking younger women, a man will still have sex with an older woman if she keeps fit a looks good. A woman won't have sex with a shorter man even if he looks good and keeps fit.

Even more ragefuel.

 

[MatureDJ]

Yes. It honestly happened. I was very well liked in high school, but it was in a friendzone/brotherly sort of way.

Being a geek might be considered a flex today, but back in Gen X’s day, it wasn’t. It was straight out of a stereotypical high school movie involving “nerds” and “jocks.”

It's like you had the same net experience in HS as I did, except that you had chicks around.

 

[CornbreadFed]

It's like you had the same net experience in HS as I did, except that you had chicks around.

It doesn't matter if you don't do anything with them. Consider chicks being around basically like seeing chicks on porn or going to the grocery store.

 

[SW15]

It doesn't matter if you don't do anything with them. Consider chicks being around basically like seeing chicks on porn or going to the grocery store.

Chicks on porn are different than chicks at the grocery store.

Women who are at the grocery store are real life. Women in porn appear online. The typical guy isn't likely to see a top female porn star or OnlyFans woman at his local grocery store.

With regular women at a grocery store, there's an opportunity to get laid with one of them.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Chicks on porn are different than chicks at the grocery store.

Women who are at the grocery store are real life. Women in porn appear online. The typical guy isn't likely to see a top female porn star or OnlyFans woman at his local grocery store.

With regular women at a grocery store, there's an opportunity to get laid with one of them.

Yeah lol, but I was trying to say that going to a school with women doesn’t guarantee anything. You still have make effort to connect with them. If you go to school and don’t talk to any girls then you are in the same position as @MatureDJ

 

[SW15]

going to a school with women doesn’t guarantee anything. You still have make effort to connect with them. If you go to school and don’t talk to any girls then you are in the same position as @MatureDJ

Having females on campus in high school and college is useful. When females are on campus, a male needs to talk to them.

It does take effort to connect with a female on campus.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Having females on campus in high school and college is useful. When females are on campus, a male needs to talk to them.

It does take effort to connect with a female on campus.

Social circles matter in both situations because it is just going to be hard to cold approach a female in general. Even in classroom settings, there's too many chance factors that play in to you getting assigned next to one that you find attractive and if she is single and compatible. My friend met his HS gfs from friends of friends or events outside school like church or something.

 

[SW15]

it is just going to be hard to cold approach a female in general.

I agree. Approaching strangers in any real life venue is going to be unpleasant. There will be lots of rejection and the male will be treated worse overall by using this method as compared to other real life methods.

Even in classroom settings, there's too many chance factors that play in to you getting assigned next to one that you find attractive and if she is single and compatible.

This is true.

When I think about my larger lecture hall type classes in college (100+ students in a class), it was difficult to even approach any particular female after a large lecture hall class. In a large lecture hall type class, I could sit near a particular female and try to seduce. The chances that she was unattached and receptive to an approach in that scenario was low.

I had some smaller classes in college too (25-45 student class sizes). Targeting any one female in those classes was easier.

High school classes resemble the smaller college classes that I had.

My friend met his HS gfs from friends of friends or events outside school like church or something.

Extracurricular clubs on campus (both high school and college) are a great way to meet females. I have long promoted that as a good way to get a girlfriend/more extended arrangement.

Where do you approach women in 2023?

What are the most common places (and most successful places) you approach women today? I’d like the hear about your best spots. For me, in university, the best place to meet girls is in common events or organizations. You can make a lot of connections that way. It’s super easy to start a...

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Friends of friends is social circle. Social circle is always going to be easier than approaching strangers or swiping, once the social circle is actually built.

Leave your house!!

A lot of males have problems due to this. The last 2 adult generations (Millennials & Gen Z) have problems with spending too much time at home (using the internet and watching content on a TV set). They aren't in the real world socializing enough. This has been an ongoing problem for the last 20-25 years.

I think a lot of males have a subpar daily routine for meeting women in real life.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

In the West, it’s the only issue. Height is so important in the West. It's number 1.

This is nonsense.
Face >>>> everything else.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is true.

When I think about my larger lecture hall type classes in college (100+ students in a class), it was difficult to even approach any particular female after a large lecture hall class. In a large lecture hall type class, I could sit near a particular female and try to seduce. The chances that she was unattached and receptive to an approach in that scenario was low.

I had some smaller classes in college too (25-45 student class sizes). Targeting any one female in those classes was easier.

High school classes resemble the smaller college classes that I had.

I had a fling with a girl that looked like Jennifer Aniston I lucked up by sitting next to in a big college lecture hall class, but that was rare lol.

This is nonsense.
Face >>>> everything else.

Face is based on the eye of the beholder but can get you in the door with hot women. However, I have seen how OP being 6ft 2-6ft 5 can be for guys even if they are ugly. I would rather be 6ft 4 with a mid-face then an average height pretty boy.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I had a fling with a girl that looked like Jennifer Aniston I lucked up by sitting next to in a big college lecture hall class, but that was rare lol.



Face is based on the eye of the beholder but can get you in the door with hot women. However, I have seen how OP being 6ft 2-6ft 5 can be for guys even if they are ugly. I would rather be 6ft 4 with a mid-face then an average height pretty boy.

I’m short. But with a good face.
Although I’m not a ‘pretty boy’.
Having a good face is a superpower.
I wouldn’t trade it for any height.

 

[SW15]

I had a fling with a girl that looked like Jennifer Aniston I lucked up by sitting next to in a big college lecture hall class, but that was rare lol.

I agree that occurrence would be rare for most college student males. Females that most men sit near in a big college lecture hall class are usually not interested for a variety of reasons.

 

[CornbreadFed]

 

[BaronOfHair]

Chicks on porn are different than chicks at the grocery store

Yeah, the latter generally wear their thongs under leggings and the like, require a great deal of prep before anal is even on the table

 

[MatureDJ]

I’m short. But with a good face.
Although I’m not a ‘pretty boy’.
Having a good face is a superpower.
I wouldn’t trade it for any height.

Not even if you were 4 foot?