Get off the Dating Apps Now

[CornbreadFed]

Take it from a woman’s perspective - if she had the choice between a 6 and an 8, she’d choose to meet up with the 8 instead. Your bio doesn’t mean anything, same as the bio of women. Simply aesthetics.

Go out and let your charisma and social skills do the work to meet better looking women. Apps are a plus, should be 10-20% of your prospecting.

A wise woman would figure out early on that a guy well above her league will never take her seriously, so she should A). Increase her SMV or B). Wake the fvck up and date guys her league.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

are they ghosting you or just telling you there's no connection?

More the latter. But I still have successful ones.

 

[CornbreadFed]

More the latter. But I still have successful ones.

Could be your teeth tbh.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

L

Could be your teeth tbh.

Lol.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Could be your teeth tbh.

Last year and two years ago I was nearly always getting a second date/laid, not quite sure what has happened this year but last night was a success at least.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Last year and two years ago I was nearly always getting a second date/laid, not quite sure what has happened this year but last night was a success at least.

The Colombian?

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

The Colombian?

Different one.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Last year and two years ago I was nearly always getting a second date/laid, not quite sure what has happened this year but last night was a success at least.

things change lol

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

things change lol

Yep, it happens but I'll get back to past successes, just a slight blip.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yep, it happens but I'll get back to past successes, just a slight blip.

fix them teeth lol

 

[CornbreadFed]

@SW15, my friend told me about how her bad interaction with an anomaly male on hinge. Dude had pictures of him being jacked and looking rich on a yacht in some tropical destination. She said he was crazy and when she had to replan a date, he sent her angry voicemail. I then had to ask her, why would a high smv guy like this be on the apps anyway. Don’t you think it is quite strange?

 

[SW15]

Dude had pictures of him being jacked and looking rich on a yacht in some tropical destination.

That would be an unstoppable combo on an app. Looks + money. Fit/muscular and a yacht is elite tier.

Those guys might not even need apps but could use them. Elite guys like that can do well on Instagram.

She said he was crazy and when she had to replan a date, he sent her angry voicemail. I then had to ask her, why would a high smv guy like this be on the apps anyway. Don’t you think it is quite strange?

That sounds like beta male behavior. That sounds like a mid to low tier man with scarcity.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Again, I’m not on dating apps, but these are two stories I heard from one of my girl’s cousin’s girlfriends. My girl doesn’t understand how she keeps getting dates, considering she needs to lose at least 50 pounds. I don’t know the fat girl personally nor have seen a picture of her.

1. She matched and went on a date with a guy who lives an hour outside of Toronto. He doesn’t have a car, so he rented one just to pick her up. According to my girl, she thought that was really sweet. As for the girl, she ghosted him because he didn’t own a car.
2. She matched and hung out with another guy who still lives with his parents. He invited her to his room and laid back on his bed like something was about to happen. She just sat there. Eventually, they both went their separate ways.

This girl is not only overweight but also unemployed and on government disability because she was hit by a car. Everyone tells her she shouldn’t be this picky given her limitations. My girl still can’t understand how she gets so many dates.

 

[SW15]

My girl doesn’t understand how she keeps getting dates, considering she needs to lose at least 50 pounds. I don’t know the fat girl personally nor have seen a picture of her.

This girl is not only overweight but also unemployed and on government disability because she was hit by a car. Everyone tells her she shouldn’t be this picky given her limitations. My girl still can’t understand how she gets so many dates.

Male thirst is an epidemic/pandemic right now. Dating apps are the place where the thirst pandemic is worst.

I know an overweight single mom in her 40s with a messy co-parenting situation. She has a boyfriend, although her boyfriend is a single dad with baggage.

 

[Dash Riprock]

I used to be a big proponent of online dating. In the early days, the return on investment was undeniable. I was active pre, during, and post covid and I can tell you that the apps went to complete shvt starting around late 2022-2023. Now, why would a good looking and healthy minded female be on a dating app in 2025? You could put in an hour of swiping, set up a couple of dates, and genuinely feel like you'd won. It was efficient, and it made sense. Unfortunately, the landscape is no longer what it once was. Lately, I've had a significant realization that it is time for men to pivot from the apps. As a result, I'm stepping back from recommending dating apps and am now strongly advocating for more traditional, face-to-face approaches when it comes to meeting women. Here is why!


1. It kills your confidence & self-esteem

To be honest, dating apps are a losing game for the average guy. Women have every reason to aim sky-high. They’re getting liked, matched, and messaged by men two or three leagues above them in SMV. In addition, these guys are still fvcking and courting them down to Cinderella's castle.

What that means for you is simple: you're grinding it out in a rigged system. Confidence is built through momentum, through stacking small wins. But dating apps? They hand you L after L, most of which have nothing to do with your actual value. That slow drip of rejection chips away at you. It makes you second-guess your worth, even when you're doing everything right.


2. It makes you lazy

Swiping is effortless. Too effortless. After a while, it rewires your brain. You start thinking, “Why should I bother getting dressed, going out, or going to that event when I can just swipe from the couch?”

Think of social skills like muscles, so if you do not use them, then they weaken. You start losing that edge. You forget how to read body language, approach with confidence, or build that natural charisma that only comes from real interactions. OLD trains you to be passive and reactive instead of bold and proactive. And that doesn't just hurt your dating life; it bleeds into how you move in the world as a man


3). It puts you in an artificial reality

You begin chasing validation more than connection. You become more obsessed with matching than with meeting. You start thinking attraction is just about good lighting, bios with “6’0 and up only, "having the right photo angle, and catering to hopeless romantics with questionable mental health issues.


None of that translates to real-world energy, chemistry, or compatibility. Apps keep you in your head instead of in your body. Instead of learning how to actually vibe with someone in person, especially a normal person, you’re stuck analyzing if a match who ghosted you after 3 messages is “worth following up with or why you got the "there's no spark" breakup text.


4. The quality of women on there has plummeted

This one’s going to sting, but it needs to be said: the quality pool is shrinking. The women who were genuinely looking for something real have either already met someone or avoid apps because of their reputation. What’s left? A mix of serial attention seekers, time wasters, bored situationship addicts, and fake profiles. Of course, there are exceptions, but let’s not pretend the juice is worth the squeeze anymore.

You're putting in hours of swiping, small talk, and rescheduling dates… for what? To maybe meet someone who’s mentally checked out because she is already talking to a guy on the local NFL team, a local MLB team, and a young guy with a six pack/Ferrari, glued to her phone during dinner, or just using you for a free night out? Nah. I’m good.

Conclusion:

My friend, a bald Asian guy who is below 6 feet tall, was constantly getting jerked around on dating apps. Eventually, he said "screw it" and started pursuing hobbies that involved women and approaching them in person. Yes, he struggled for a while, but he eventually moved past that difficult phase. Now, he consistently meets women outside of apps. The last time we met, he was talkative, happy, and much more engaged in conversations, a stark contrast to the depressed and bitter person he was during his app days.

One thing you over 30 guys can try is a matchmaking service.

I've worked with one on and off for the past 7 years, called It’s Just Lunch. They are not cheap BUT, for the guys who are sick of f*cking around on apps, cold approaching, and lame events, it would be worth looking into.

The women I was meeting were FAR above the online trash I was used to dating. Like anything else, not everyone was a connection, but they had their **** together and weren't boss b*tches for the most part. The service also paid close attention to the type of girls I wanted to date and though no one was a 100% match, all had numerous qualities I was looking for so the service did their best for me. I even dated a former Miss Switzerland from the late 90's. Pretty hot. Most were genuinely nice and sweet and either divorced or out of LTRs. Most were within a few years of my age but some were 10+ years younger. I dated a couple for a while and then they fizzled out, but it wasn't the c*ck carousel type girls you'll find on the apps or in bars. It does cost $$, about $2500 to join and then $119/month for the dates. You can put it on hold for $49/month if you need a break--what I'm doing right now.

This is NOT for everyone. As mentioned, 30 years old is probably the youngest I would recommend and then it goes up from there. Plus, you need $$. You WILL meet quality women who are looking for more than building a "roster", looking for a sugar daddy, or just aren't serious about a LTR. Some guys on SS are really discouraged in that they want a LTR or marriage and kids. Each to their own. Your best bet for this is a matchmaking service.

DM me if you have specific questions.

Good luck.

~Dash

 

[Solomon]

Had a buddy tell me for years that FB dating was easy to slay poon, Tried it out for a month and it's basically POF2.0. In one day I matched with 3 girls that

• Girl1: She just had a baby 2 months ago but was looking for **** not sure if she was "fully healed yet"
• Girl2: She was 7 months pregnant, but didn't mention it on her profile and was using pre prego pics
• Girl3: Was at a halfway rehab house trying to get sober​

Saw an ex girlfriend from 5 years ago and said "aight imma head out" it was low quality women meaning women who have issues and not dateable. Even when I used Bumble and Hinge you meet women that always have some issue going on hence they are on dating apps you gotta catch ones that just literally joined if you're lucky they will be halfway normal

 

[SW15]

POF2.0.

POF was a poop show in the late 2000s/early 2010s. In those days, it had more of a trashy vibe than OkCupid. This is before Tinder was launched or was in its earliest days.

Bumble and Hinge

Bumble in my area tends to have normal, mainly bougie "Boss Girl" types. Bumble is a middle of the road dating app that gets more relationship oriented women.

Hinge was more normal in the past. The last thing I was on Hinge in my area, it was total shiit. It was almost all overweight women and single moms.

 

[Solomon]

POF was a poop show in the late 2000s/early 2010s. In those days, it had more of a trashy vibe than OkCupid. This is before Tinder was launched or was in its earliest days.



Bumble in my area tends to have normal, mainly bougie "Boss Girl" types. Bumble is a middle of the road dating app that gets more relationship oriented women.

Hinge was more normal in the past. The last thing I was on Hinge in my area, it was total shiit. It was almost all overweight women and single moms.

Ever since covid dating apps have gone to Shyt just when you think they couldn't go lower. Bumble is dead in my area. Last year at this time I was lining up back to back dates this year it's crickets. Tinder was great if you wanted to hook up with young (24-28) year old chicks but its dead. Haven't used Hinge in years due to being banned. Luckily it's summer so it's lakeseason woohoo

 

[SW15]

Tinder was great if you wanted to hook up with young (24-28) year old chicks but its dead.

Tinder is a niche app now. It can be useful if you're 6'0", fit/muscular, and seeking short term sex. For everyone else, it's not going to be a pleasant experience.

Bumble is dead in my area.

I believe it. Bumble and Hinge are more relationship oriented.

The most successful guys are Bumble and Hinge are also 6'0"+ and fit/muscular.

 

[Solomon]

The most successful guys are Bumble and Hinge are also 6'0"+ and fit/muscular.

The most successful guys are good looking, period. I have a buddy who is 5'9, not muscular, kind of skinny/scrawny,average face but he knows how to dress like a guy stepping out of SOHO and can spit game to stunners like he's getting it from the himalyayas. My point?

We need to stop reinforcing the RULE and Start promoting the EXCEPTION not every guy will win but you can if you know how to increase your attributes