5 good reasons women ignore men

[CornbreadFed]

Tbh the art of rizz is severely diminished due to the come up of OLD.

Gen Z & Gen A have thrown out the rizz playbook in a bad way. Tactics we learned from PUA are no longer effective because every Broccolini faded headed Gen z is negging women and claiming sigma high value male status to women.

 

[CoolWave1331]

So much theory on this website; everyone is an expert on women, starting threads on “you can’t get women because of x, y, z”. Yet no one posts successful field reports.

Point 1. Wrong. So if the guy is rich and spends like crazy on her, she won’t be with him because he has no “purpose”?

Point 2. Wrong. I’ve slept with 8/10s with clothes bought from Costco:

Point 3. Wrong. So a man is supposed to be a clown and entertain the woman?

Point 4. Wrong. My friend is fat, is a Salsa teacher. Gets the hottest women.

Point 5. Wrong. James Bond needs social proof? I would say social proof is bad, then she knows you are nice safe guy.

All points debunked and are wrong .

I'm new. I don't think i've seen an official pick up thread but i'll try to add some successful pickups going forward. I'm not sure how educational it will because a lot of my successes are just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. I only approach when I think they want me to talk to them. When that happens it's pretty easy. I try to match their energy which is point 3. I've seen before where a woman loses interest because they guy was stern, not overly playful/flirtatious, brief with his words etc. Wasn't always a case of disinterest either was just his personality.

 

[Gamisch]

Gen Z & Gen A have thrown out the rizz playbook in a bad way. Tactics we learned from PUA are no longer effective because every Broccolini faded headed Gen z is negging women and claiming sigma high value male status to women.

Tbh I don't really understand the context . I don't know who or what broccolini is. Maybe you can explain this.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Tbh I don't really understand the context . I don't know who or what broccolini is. Maybe you can explain this.

Your average young gen z male looks like this guy and they are pretty open to women about red pill slang & PUA tactics.

 

[SW15]

the art of rizz is severely diminished due to the come up of OLD.

When we start to kinda understand how women think we know that a few images combined with other factors ( e.g a doctor who has a picture sitting on a Harley , one in Dubai, and one at a VIP table ) will make her do all the fantasising. Doctor dude doesn't even has to be a doctor! He also doesn't need to be a charming person, talkative, rizzed up, not even needs to be jacked.

A good portion of the early stages of interactions are now done behind electronic screens with the written word and photos/videos.

The in-person experience matters less than it used to matter because of this.

Phone calls are essentially dead in the early stages. It's nearly impossible to get a woman born in the late 1980s or later on a phone call prior to sex in a new interactions. 20-25 years ago, the actual phone call was a part of early stage dating. This was true for both things that began on dating websites or from real life approaches.

I think the shift to OLD and texting has had so many more negative effects.

I know a guy who plays this game relentlessly. He is a doctor, a pilot, a CEO , a professional soccer player who's injured ect. All the while he hasn't had a job in centuries and has a baby momma who is a 5 at a good day. But.. it WORKS!! Women fall for that bs every- damn- time.

That can happen. I'm impressed with his seduction skill.

you can have " 2010 rizz"..... Let's say you do approache and " rizz" such a woman; she will be less receptive to it than back in the days. There will be less urgency to keep in touch with you , less curiosity. She might have 10 fantasy men lined up and will check if either one of them can actually " give her what she deserves. Let's not even talk about the amount of ( silent) orbiters and male friends, work / gym/ neighbourhood husbands ect.

I think you make a valid point. I think there's less receptivity and excitement around in-person approaches in the era of smartphones, dating apps, and social media platforms. A lot of women have so much abundance from the prospects that they generate from dating apps and social media. They have less incentive to go to bars to meet men. Why bother to get dressed up and go out on the town when they could interact with prospects sitting at home in sweatpants? Why bother to engage with some man outdoors or at the gym (wear headphones/earbuds) when there are so many men hitting her up via social media and apps? Why bother to interact with some random guy at the grocery store or mall?

There are also plenty of orbiters too. These orbiters could be offline or online.

Gen Z & Gen A have thrown out the rizz playbook in a bad way. Tactics we learned from PUA are no longer effective because every Broccolini faded headed Gen z is negging women and claiming sigma high value male status to women.

I think that's a drastic overstatement. A lot of Gen Z is socially awkward and barely having in-person interactions. How can they be negging women when they don't do many in-person approaches? There might be segments of men doing this, but it's far from universal in Gen Z. The oldest Gen Alphas were born in 2013 and are in middle school right now. Generation Alpha has yet to make an impact on the mating environment. It is possible sigma high value male status might be display on a dating app profile or in social media for young Gen Z adults, but that's debatable.

 

[CornbreadFed]

A good portion of the early stages of interactions are now done behind electronic screens with the written word and photos/videos.

The in-person experience matters less than it used to matter because of this.

Phone calls are essentially dead in the early stages. It's nearly impossible to get a woman born in the late 1980s or later on a phone call prior to sex in a new interactions. 20-25 years ago, the actual phone call was a part of early stage dating. This was true for both things that began on dating websites or from real life approaches.

I think the shift to OLD and texting has had so many more negative effects.



That can happen. I'm impressed with his seduction skill.



I think you make a valid point. I think there's less receptivity and excitement around in-person approaches in the era of smartphones, dating apps, and social media platforms. A lot of women have so much abundance from the prospects that they generate from dating apps and social media. They have less incentive to go to bars to meet men. Why bother to get dressed up and go out on the town when they could interact with prospects sitting at home in sweatpants? Why bother to engage with some man outdoors or at the gym (wear headphones/earbuds) when there are so many men hitting her up via social media and apps? Why bother to interact with some random guy at the grocery store or mall?

There are also plenty of orbiters too. These orbiters could be offline or online.



I think that's a drastic overstatement. A lot of Gen Z is socially awkward and barely having in-person interactions. How can they be negging women when they don't do many in-person approaches? There might be segments of men doing this, but it's far from universal in Gen Z. The oldest Gen Alphas were born in 2013 and are in middle school right now. Generation Alpha has yet to make an impact on the mating environment. It is possible sigma high value male status might be display on a dating app profile or in social media for young Gen Z adults, but that's debatable.

I have a lot of female Gen z friends and they tell me the horror stories of dealing with the broccolini heads on the app. They are going on dates with women and acting weird af by trying to imitate a PUA sigma male. In addition, I have Gen A siblings and they know more red pill terminology than this forum lol. Bottomline, the red pill & pua are pretty much considered mainstream with gen Z and Gen A.

 

[SW15]

I have a lot of female Gen z friends and they tell me the horror stories of dealing with the broccolini heads on the app. They are going on dates with women and acting weird af by trying to imitate a PUA sigma male.

I'm interested to learn more about this.

I'm not on apps and I have limited contact with Generation Z. The oldest Generation Z's are 14 years younger than I am. As an early Millennial, it is more likely that I would be interacting with Millennial women in mating efforts.

A Generation Z'er wouldn't likely see me if I were on an app, let alone swipe right on me.

It is likely that I see some Generation Z women out at some of the bars I go to and possibly in my daygame venues. I can't recall too many Gen Z interactions I've had solely from real life approaching.

I am an actual sigma male who has a strong knowledge of PUA concepts. I didn't know that I was the standard to mimic on an app.

In addition, I have Gen A siblings and they know more red pill terminology than this forum lol. Bottomline, the red pill & pua are pretty much considered mainstream with gen Z and Gen A.

I thought that the black pill was growing faster with Generation Z than the red pill was. I have thought of the red pill as more of a Generation X or earlier Millennial ideology.

How relevant are Fresh & Fit with moving the red pill into the Gen Z space? Myron and Walter are late Millennials. Rollo is an early Generation X'er. Mystery and Neil Strauss are earlier Generation X'ers. Roosh's birthday was in the late Gen X time period and I think he resonated most with late Gen X/early Millennials.

Pickup artistry is more associated with Generation X and the earliest Millennials than other generations. A lot of pickup artistry seemed to fade away as the 2010s moved along and a lot of early stage dating shifted from the bars to the swipe apps.

Generation A is not going to make its mark on the mating environment until a substantial number of them turn 18. Generation Z didn't really make its mark until the early 2020s when the earliest ones were turning 18. I don't recall much Gen Z chatter in 2017-2018 for instance.

 

[Gamisch]

That can happen. I'm impressed with his seduction skill.

Strong DISAGREE.

How is it impressive when a man is basically a conartist at heart? Maybe I'm shifting too much into my " realistic energy " lately and I'm missing the boat..but I've never looked at this guy with any of respect.

Anyone can claim to be a pilot ,doctor, son / nephew of a CEO mogul while lying through his teeth.

If THIS is what you have to do to get p00sy..imo that's a sign of desperation. Even if it works.

I rather build REAL accolades and create a REAL victory story. But that's just me

 

[CoolWave1331]

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Strong DISAGREE.

How is it impressive when a man is basically a conartist at heart? Maybe I'm shifting too much into my " realistic energy " lately and I'm missing the boat..but I've never looked at this guy with any of respect.

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Anyone can claim to be a pilot ,doctor, son / nephew of a CEO mogul while lying through his teeth.

If THIS is what you have to do to get p00sy..imo that's a sign of desperation. Even if it works.

I rather build REAL accolades and create a REAL victory story. But that's just me

I can agree with this take. I wouldn't respect nor associate with a guy like that. You have to figure if he's deceptive/manipulative with women like that...why would you not think he'd be with people in general? The saying 'there is no honor among thieves' comes to mind. It takes a certain skill to lie through your teeth and keep up the act for a long time.