"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Women can't be friends to other women

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Women don't form friendships with other women like men do with other men.
Many men perceive friendship as a deep bond of brotherhood. But women experience friendship differently.

For example, women might distance themselves from their female friends when she becomes engaged, only to reconnect when they're single again. Anecdotally, women seem to have a larger number of female friends than men do male friends, but these relationships are superficial. Personally, I've found it challenging to meet women who maintain long-term, close female friendships. Is this a common experience?

Since women are "master" of the social game, could it be that women approach friendships opportunistically, maintaining a level of superficiality and utilizing connections for emotional support, social networking, or other advantages?

How do women form friendships, and how do they perceive and navigate their social circles?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A man's friendship with another man is definitely different than a woman's friendship with another woman. There is the honor, respect, and loyalty thing among men that seems to be missing with women.

So many women talk schitt behind each others back. I've seen it with many different women.

Women are naturally insecure, jealous, and always wanting more. All of this causes problems in all of their relationships, with men as well.
 

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A man's friendship with another man is definitely different than a woman's friendship with another woman. There is the honor, respect, and loyalty thing among men that seems to be missing with women.

So many women talk schitt behind each others back. I've seen it with many different women.

Women are naturally insecure, jealous, and always wanting more. All of this causes problems in all of their relationships, with men as well.
I've seen it with ALL women. They present themselves as "twin sisters " but once they are alone they talk shyte about each other to such a degree you lose respect for the both of them: one because she gossips, the other because of the "facts " you hear.

On the other hand and that's quite interesting; women have a thicker skin and will use that " unreliable jealous witch" to keep them company. They are rather with such a person than being home alone with the curtains closed.

Two sides to the coin as usual.
 

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It’s 2025 man…Guys aren’t what they used to be anymore.

I know a few dudes who likes to talk crap behind people’s back and gossip like a female too….

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So many women talk schitt behind each others back. I've seen it with many different women.
I saw men doing this, and having many women around when was time for gossip.
Wonder, since women like doing this, they feel like doing it with a men, it's like creating a "squad" .. a "team" vs others?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yep, never get tangled with those boys. Soon as a guy gossips, I'm out. That is a backstab waiting to happen
Most guys of my generation are like this.. You would have zero friends.

When they start ****ting about other people and I start to become autistic in my face it's where I feel lonely in their presence.
 

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Most guys of my generation are like this.. You would have zero friends.

When they start ****ting about other people and I start to become autistic in my face it's where I feel lonely in their presence.
Most are, and it's rare but there are gems out there. I'm much pickier with who I choose to befriend because it'd end up being someone that I could keep around for a lifetime. Women come and go (for now), but loyal friends ride or die.

I've met a few diamonds in the trough that I knew would never talk bad behind my back, and hardly dwell on a person that was deserving of it
 

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I think gossip is a feminine social activity, not something for men to participate in.

Curiosity in other people's private lives often leads to disappointment and disillusion.
 

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A man's friendship with another man is definitely different than a woman's friendship with another woman. There is the honor, respect, and loyalty thing among men that seems to be missing with women.

So many women talk schitt behind each others back. I've seen it with many different women.

Women are naturally insecure, jealous, and always wanting more. All of this causes problems in all of their relationships, with men as well.
on the back side of that coin, many times a woman cheats its with a friend of the man. often a good friend of the man.

men are far more likely to be generous.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do women form friendships, and how do they perceive and navigate their social circles?
In ways which are all but incomprehensible to us men. Trying to understand that sh-t is an endeavor less fruitful than women trying to understand the brilliance of Tombstone
 

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There is an idea in a couple of posts in this thread that women get turned off by being treated like anything other than a common wh0re.

This is absolutely true - of common wh0res.

Women with no self esteem, who view themselves as low value (and this can include many hot women) will spread their legs for men who reflect this reality back to them.

Quality women, on the other hand, will be much more responsive to the more noble attributes being discussed here. Especially if they are looking for stability and a good provider. These women provide true value to men, far beyond sex. They can help you advance socially, provide some level of companionship, be a good mother to your offspring to give them a greater chance of success, etc. And some can even offer significant financial resources. Women who esteem themselves and know they can provide value beyond sex, will not take a guy seriously unless he shows depth at some point. Being a bad boy will pique her interest and put her into a sexual state; but that arousal won't last forever.

I think it's imperative, if your ultimate goal is to eventually find a suitable mate to raise children with (which mine is), to have the balance. You have to be both bad boy and provider. You have to show her that you can master both worlds. That she can rely on you, but she can't control you. IMO that's the key to getting the top quality women (looks+substance+career).
There is this resonating comment from another thread can also contribute to our discussion about how women might threaten friendships.

Essentially, women and men often value things differently. We recognize this.

However, we also want to emphasize that while all women are equal in their capacity to respond, they differ in how they value these things.
 
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