"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Low sex marriages/relationships are just code for loss attraction for whatever reason.
This is a part of my idea that romantic relationships have a shelf life of goodness, regardless of how long they last.

Attraction loss will happen over time. The shelf life of goodness in LTRs/marriages is about 5 years.

If you know couples that have been together longer than 5 years (these are typically married couples), they are experiencing this on some level.

There's a reason that 2010s-2020s marriages have less sex in them than 1980s marriages.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Let's also not forget that if you are attractive...you'll attract..

It's easy to be faithful when you don't attract anyone. On the other hand, when you do "got it" you'll be having your woman on edge the whole time. Even when you are not necessarily busy with attracting new women.

I also think that these times many people have WAY too high bodycounts. After a while you simply want some new fresh p00sy. Or she want some new fresh D..
Women need their men to be attractive because it keeps them attracted to you and them on their heels because they know women are after you. You might not see it, but women surely do notice other women checking out their man.

My thoughts on cheating is this....I don't think 99% of the men on the planet can consistently turn down soft ball pitches from women. However, most men aren't going to work overtime for pvssy when they already have some at home. For example, even if you have a bvtch wife at home, you aren't going to jump through hoops, put in the work, go through the dating/screening bullshvt to find new pvssy, and deal with hiding everything from your wife unless you have to. On the contrary, you could have the most loving feminine/hottest wife at home, but if you are out at a bar or something with friends and Megan Fox or Sydney Sweenie offer you sex that night.... GOOD LUCK BRO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:. TBH, I think women will forgive you for more cheating like this over the other way of cheating which is a complete breech in contract when it comes to patriarchy.
 

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This is a part of my idea that romantic relationships have a shelf life of goodness, regardless of how long they last.

Attraction loss will happen over time. The shelf life of goodness in LTRs/marriages is about 5 years.

If you know couples that have been together longer than 5 years (these are typically married couples), they are experiencing this on some level.

There's a reason that 2010s-2020s marriages have less sex in them than 1980s marriages.
"romantic relationships" are a fugazi coined by teenage girls and women with the female equivalent of Peter Pan syndrome. Relationships that last longer have a lot more grit than what is portrayed by entertainment.
 

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Relationships that last longer have a lot more grit than what is portrayed by entertainment.
A lot of longer term relationships (usually marriages) have a long lasting decay phase. The decay phase of an LTR can last for years.

Married couples are also good at not letting outsiders know the extent of their decay phase until after the divorce papers have been filed.

A longer lasting relationship is not indicative of a quality relationship.

Both of us likely know 5+ year long couples in a decay phase at the moment, but these people aren't letting outsiders know, especially their unmarried friends.

The idea was mentioned in a 2014 article from Caleb Jones (aka Alpha Male 2.0, Blackdragon). Point #3 is a big part of that.

 

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A lot of longer term relationships (usually marriages) have a long lasting decay phase. The decay phase of an LTR can last for years.

Married couples are also good at not letting outsiders know the extent of their decay phase until after the divorce papers have been filed.

A longer lasting relationship is not indicative of a quality relationship.

Both of us likely know 5+ year long couples in a decay phase at the moment, but these people aren't letting outsiders know, especially their unmarried friends.

The idea was mentioned in a 2014 article from Caleb Jones (aka Alpha Male 2.0, Blackdragon). Point #3 is a big part of that.

Old School Coach Greg Adams RIP btw called out the boomer marriages that men idolized. He said that there was more than likely cheating and everything, but our grandparents just put up with it and swept it under the rug.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Old School Coach Greg Adams RIP btw called out the boomer marriages that men idolized.
Those were more likely to be pre-Boomer era marriages. This is the GI Generation (1910s-early 1920s births) and Silent Generation (late 1920s - 1945 births).

The TV show Mad Men (which aired from 2007-2015) looked at some of this. Don Draper (a late 1920s birth) and Peter Campbell (1934 birth) were GI/Silent examples of this.

When the Boomers were children in the 1950s-1960s, they were seeing these marriages in their childhoods.

In the USA, no fault divorce started in most states in the 1970s. The 1970s era divorcees were rarely Boomers because most Boomers were too young to be married and/or their early stage marriages had yet to decay. 1970s era divorcees were most late Silent Generation with Gen X children. Boomers were not dominant in divorce until the 1980s.

He said that there was more than likely cheating and everything, but our grandparents just put up with it and swept it under the rug.
Boomer women (the divorcees of the 1980s to early 2000s) were more likely to divorce and not up with stuff.

The infidelity gap between men and women started to noticeably close after the Boomers, though there's probably a case that Boomer women started that trend.

The pre-Boomer marriages had mainly male cheating. The affairs looked a little bit different with the Boomers and beyond.

For Gen Y/Millennials, the marriages of our grandparents or great grandparents look nothing like marriages in the present day.
 

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I know a lady that has a son and daughter that are both low 20s. She’s totally encourages her daughter to have a bf (and she does), but she doesn’t give a flying F that her son has always been dateless. His dating/social experience somehow doesn’t matter. It’s sad but not surprising.
yup women are the only gender that are owed success or results with men, not the other way around
 

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Old School Coach Greg Adams RIP btw called out the boomer marriages that men idolized. He said that there was more than likely cheating and everything, but our grandparents just put up with it and swept it under the rug.
Rip??

You mean Adam Curry?
 

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you'll be having your woman on edge the whole time.
This is interesting! What do you mean by her being on the edge the whole time? I think we'd love to hear more on how she behave. (Let's say it's a LTR scenario)
 

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Women need their men to be attractive because it keeps them attracted to you and them on their heels because they know women are after you. You might not see it, but women surely do notice other women checking out their man.
All true, but as a man you never want to do this "intentionally".
You only attract and keep damaged women in your relationship if you do it intentionally.


Married couples are also good at not letting outsiders know the extent of their decay phase until after the divorce papers have been filed.
In my experience, most of these couples are "in transit," meaning the women will monkeybranch with someone (married women have tried with me, but I've rejected them), and the men will do it when they find another woman who won't deny them sex or give them too much trouble.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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yeah, i think it will only gets worse in the future, the forever alone community i see only rising.
I believe it does unfortunately, especially among men. I had no idea this thread kept going, but a lot of good points were made in the additional replies. Being alone and sexless does have a negative impact on a man's mental health, not having a male role model that can offer guidance and advice regarding attracting and dating women to a young guy can lead to that guy becoming an adult virgin, and being inexperienced with women when you're at an older age definitely can be a catch-22 since most women don't want to date a grown man who doesn't know anything about romantic relationships, and the lack of experience also causes the man to feel so much more discouraged about his dating prospects and sometimes even intimidated since women are so much more experienced than him and could have a higher level of expectation when it comes to performance that he feels like he cannot meet those expectations as someone with no experience.
 
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