We must open our horizons and date internationally

[Pandora]

OP may I ask what country? and how much time you have spent there?

I cant say what nation exactly. Its in the middle east and ive spent maybe a month or two there.

 

[Pandora]

John Smith was one of the original passport bros and he bagged a Native American hottie. Pocahontas was prob a fine af.

Men have been travelling for better puzzy since forever. American GIs went back to vietnam to marry those women.

African men commonly have wives back in their home country. They go back to marry the village girl.

What I am saying is not some unheard of thing.

First you got to get on the intertional apps. Delete American dating apps.

I have a nerdy coworker who I put him on to the international app. He now is talking to a cute girl and is planning a trip.

 

[Gamisch]

Maybe the pushback is because the original idea behind the forum is to become or stay a "don juan" right. Whatever that means , it's personal I guess.

As long as there are women there will be parties, bars, festivals, parks, pools, beaches, wine tasting events, art exhibitions, ect ect where women will go to. These women WILL hook up with men that are desirable.

Most PP bros kinda say that ALL western/ American women are trash while we simultaneously know they hook up with dudes. I PERSONALLY rather be the dude they wanna hook up with know mean?

The stigma that comes with being a PP bro still is one of a man who can't get women for whatever reason and thus needs to travel around the globe in hopes of finding women. You also point out that a NERDY man ...it's hardly ever a alpha man. The men I know that do this PPbro thing are also dudes with obvious flaws ( and they refuse to address those ). None of them ever touched a dumbell for example.

That's why not everyone is down with this concept. Add to that that I am from South America so my view is skewed by that also. Secondly if I attend events as mentioned above I get plenty of game. My incels homies don't even wanna go out because they feel insignificant. But regardless, the event will be lit, there will also be women and fecking will always happen...

Meanwhile the secret is out also and women in those regions are aware that western men who can't get it at home travel to their countries..so the chances of getting a unicorn become slimmer by the day.

 

[Pandora]

Maybe the pushback is because the original idea behind the forum is to become or stay a "don juan" right. Whatever that means , it's personal I guess.

As long as there are women there will be parties, bars, festivals, parks, pools, beaches, wine tasting events, art exhibitions, ect ect where women will go to. These women WILL hook up with men that are desirable.

Most PP bros kinda say that ALL western/ American women are trash while we simultaneously know they hook up with dudes. I PERSONALLY rather be the dude they wanna hook up with know mean?

The stigma that comes with being a PP bro still is one of a man who can't get women for whatever reason and thus needs to travel around the globe in hopes of finding women. You also point out that a NERDY man ...it's hardly ever a alpha man. The men I know that do this PPbro thing are also dudes with obvious flaws ( and they refuse to address those ). None of them ever touched a dumbell for example.

That's why not everyone is down with this concept. Add to that that I am from South America so my view is skewed by that also. Secondly if I attend events as mentioned above I get plenty of game. My incels homies don't even wanna go out because they feel insignificant. But regardless, the event will be lit, there will also be women and fecking will always happen...

Meanwhile the secret is out also and women in those regions are aware that western men who can't get it at home travel to their countries..so the chances of getting a unicorn become slimmer by the day.

Okay I hear you bro. You are making very good points. I agree with you actually. Let me present a couple counterpoints.

American women are not hooking up in real life like they used to. I am an older millennial and I have seen the shift. Women used to go out to meet a guy and have a one night stand. Now they just go out for fun. They already found the one night stand guy online.

Also the culture has shifted so much. This is not 2008 again. The bar scene is not fun anymore because pickup is dead. In some places in the USA they are trying to make approaching women a crime. Im not bad looking and I am funny and goofy so I can get away with approaching but its still not as fun as it used to be. American women are more antagonistic.

Also even if you do get sex you have to worry about false rape accusations now. She could have a case of buyers remorse. One allegation and you are finished even if you are innocent. We did not have to worry about that in 2008. The Me Too movement changed a lot of things.

Also South African women are much easier to game then American women. I promise this.

Also American women are not that attractive. Many of them are fat. The thin ones have an inflated ego.

Also if you date black women then you are really screwed. Most of them have kids by 30. Most of them are dealing with a thug or crazy ec boyfriend. Its dangerous dating now.

So basically I think the era of pick up is dead but for all the most skilled players. Yes it is possible but it will be a part time job now. With many frustrating rejections for 1 lay. I can still do it but I will have to have my A game. I will say it will take me 2 months of going out and online game to land 1 consistent sexual partner ( who is hot). That is a lot of work when I can just fly out to Columbia and have all the sex that I want for free.

Lastly....even if you manage to beat the odds and find a hot sane American girl. The chances of her not divorcing are small.

I think we are both correct here. You are not wrong. I just feel like the juice is not worth the squeeze. This pick up Don Juan guys have to accept that the era of Don Juan is over. Things evolved fast thanks to the smart phone.

 

[Clockwerk50]

This is really good advice. I think these are the 2 paths. I have to create path #1. Thanks

I’ve mentioned him before, but there’s this German guy who went to Colombia as an exchange student and ended up staying there for a while. He makes YouTube videos about the country, talking about how much he loves it, how it’s the best place ever, and how he now feels more Colombian than German. The locals absolutely love it. This would be an example of my option 1.

Currently, he has a girlfriend and recently had a baby. She’s fully in his frame—she accompanies him to all his public relations events, sponsorship deals, and travels. On top of that, this guy the kind of confidence that makes it clear he wouldn’t have any trouble getting laid if he were still in Germany.

That’s all I know, but I’m guessing passport bros probably have more insight into this kind of scenario than I do.

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[Pandora]

I’ve mentioned him before, but there’s this German guy who went to Colombia as an exchange student and ended up staying there for a while. He makes YouTube videos about the country, talking about how much he loves it, how it’s the best place ever, and how he now feels more Colombian than German. The locals absolutely love it. This would be an example of my option 1.

Currently, he has a girlfriend and recently had a baby. She’s fully in his frame—she accompanies him to all his public relations events, sponsorship deals, and travels. On top of that, this guy the kind of confidence that makes it clear he wouldn’t have any trouble getting laid if he were still in Germany.

That’s all I know, but I’m guessing passport bros probably have more insight into this kind of scenario than I do.

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Yes this is kinda of what I plan to do. Why must we be loyal to the nation we were born in? No one else is.

Statistically speaking your " soul mate" is more likely to reside outside of yout home nation.

I will check out his Youtube.

 

[Pandora]

@Gamisch I may be exagerrating a little bit about how bad US women are but I live in the worst city for dating. I live close to Washington DC.

This place is 9th layer of dating hell. I have been all over the USA and everywhere else is easier. DC is no fun.

Being a Don Jon is still fun in some other cities like New York or Orlando Florida etc.

So I am admitting you are half way right. But if you live in a bad city for dating like Baltimore, DC, Los Angelos etc...you are better off getting a passport.

Its no coincidence that this is where Roosh V is also from.

 

[DreamAgain]

@Gamisch I may be exagerrating a little bit about how bad US women are but I live in the worst city for dating. I live close to Washington DC.

This place is 9th layer of dating hell. I have been all over the USA and everywhere else is easier. DC is no fun.

Being a Don Jon is still fun in some other cities like New York or Orlando Florida etc.

So I am admitting you are half way right. But if you live in a bad city for dating like Baltimore, DC, Los Angelos etc...you are better off getting a passport.

Its no coincidence that this is where Roosh V is also from.

Man that is surprising, D.C. I would think is definitely better than New york or Florida, which are gold digger / thot central. Florida especially has extremely dim people who do nothing but drink white claws and vegetate on the beach.

 

[Pandora]

Man that is surprising, D.C. I would think is definitely better than New york or Florida, which are gold digger / thot central. Florida especially has extremely dim people who do nothing but drink white claws and vegetate on the beach.

DC is the political capital of the nation. It attracts career boss babes from all over the nation. It is also very politically correct. The women also make a lot of money here so they dont really need a man for survival.

DC is also the richest area in the USA so you know the issues that come with that. Plus the women are not hot because the fun hot girls are in California or Florida. The liberal politcal girls come to DC.

 

[ManFromTartarus]

I am from South America

Hey G, may I ask what country?

 

[Gamisch]

Hey G, may I ask what country?

Brazil

 

[sevbucmash]

Tell me something, as a man from poor African country, let's say Burkina Faso, can you date a lady in the United States? No, right, it don't work that way. It's dating WAAAY up. I don't even think dropping standards, or adding pounds in a woman will change anything. This only works if you are from United States and travel abroad for a woman.

Now this is the same as dating with your wallet. Except here, instead of money, woman sees in you immigration, green card, and U.S. citizenship. You're that prince, on white horse, that going to the country for a peasant chick.

Women are the same all over the world, because female nature don't change with jurisdiction.

 

[Bible_Belt]

American universities and colleges have a lot of international students. You don't have to leave the country to get a foreign bride. That's what I did. We ended up divorcing eventually, but I don't regret the experience at all.

 

[plumber]

Tell me something, as a man from poor African country, let's say Burkina Faso, can you date a lady in the United States? No, right, it don't work that way. It's dating WAAAY up. I don't even think dropping standards, or adding pounds in a woman will change anything. This only works if you are from United States and travel abroad for a woman.

Now this is the same as dating with your wallet. Except here, instead of money, woman sees in you immigration, green card, and U.S. citizenship. You're that prince, on white horse, that going to the country for a peasant chick.

Women are the same all over the world, because female nature don't change with jurisdiction.

there is actually some market for men from Africa to date low smv US women. it generally works the same way but in reverse based on gender.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I just fully read this post. It sounds interesting. Can you elaborate please? You are an American who went abroad and dated the women there for a while right?

Even though it did not work out the adventures were legit right? Did it change the way you looked at American women? Thanks

I stayed in the US many years but in a big city with a huge international dating pool. Also traveled a lot in the meantime. Then I moved abroad and continued my adventures. But I traveled and moved for me, not for women. Note, even smaller US cities have immigrants and refugees so if one can't afford travel, do a little digging.

Everything worked out for me. I have never been big on homegrown US women but there are exceptions. The majority I dated had an underlying misery or toxicity. But plenty of foreign women had issues too. Just less attitude and a better ratio of nice to bytch overall. But this could also be a result of me filtering better over the years so take it with a grain of salt. I've also been with some real sweethearts but wasn't ready to retire so there's that.

No regrets though - every woman I laid or dated was a learning experience, for better or worse.

 

[Bible_Belt]

No regrets though - every woman I laid or dated was a learning experience, for better or worse.

Amen to that.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pandora,
I only have experience in Filipina Women,very lovely people,but their Country is corrupt and miserably poor,many will do anything to get out to the West...Inevitably many of these Girls get involved with"No-Hopers",many after a decent interval will ditch their betrothed and try their luck finding a new Westerner....These are the Women you should be looking at,they have learned our Language,fit into our Culture maybe secured employment....They often go back to the original Phillipino dating site when searching...Why put up with having to marry one and bring her back,put up with the oppressive heat of the Phillipines,their lousy food,grifting Families?...Get smart,hook up with one in your own Country,for whom someone else has already done the hard yards!

 

[eli77]

John Smith was one of the original passport bros and he bagged a Native American hottie. Pocahontas was prob a fine af.

Men have been travelling for better puzzy since forever. American GIs went back to vietnam to marry those women.

African men commonly have wives back in their home country. They go back to marry the village girl.

What I am saying is not some unheard of thing.

First you got to get on the intertional apps. Delete American dating apps.

I have a nerdy coworker who I put him on to the international app. He now is talking to a cute girl and is planning a trip.

What app?

 

[plumber]

Hi Pandora,
I only have experience in Filipina Women,very lovely people,but their Country is corrupt and miserably poor,many will do anything to get out to the West...Inevitably many of these Girls get involved with"No-Hopers",many after a decent interval will ditch their betrothed and try their luck finding a new Westerner....These are the Women you should be looking at,they have learned our Language,fit into our Culture maybe secured employment....They often go back to the original Phillipino dating site when searching...Why put up with having to marry one and bring her back,put up with the oppressive heat of the Phillipines,their lousy food,grifting Families?...Get smart,hook up with one in your own Country,for whom someone else has already done the hard yards!

how is this different than dating any other local girl in your own area ?

 

[Pandora]

What app?

Tandem is a good one. I met my girl on an outdated on that might not be around called Interpals.