BaronOfHair
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Her lower half would be far more alluring, if her pants were tighter
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Her lower half would be far more alluring, if her pants were tighter
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
(5) Why does some fashion repeat while others fad? | LinkedInThe question though is: Why would fashion trends embrace such a bad look (especially a bad look that used to be in style...and went out of style for good reason)?
The 90s should have made us learn from the error of a woman wearing baggy pants
Yeah, I've noticed Gen Z young men wearing baggy pants too.
I don't even like to wear baggy pants as a guy.
I once wore baggy pants (they were in style, for a guy at least, in my younger days). By the time I was halfway through high school, however, tighter pants came into style. My pants then tightened (by college, I was wearing the skintight drainpipe jeans).
Even though I don't wear the drainpipe jeans anymore (I don't know if they even make drainpipe jeans for a guy anymore), I'm never going back to baggy pants. Looking back on my 12-15 year old self, I see how sloppy and ridiculous baggy pants looked (they look equally ridiculous on the young folk embracing baggy pants in the current year)
My point? Since baggy pants are a bad look even for a guy, it goes without saying that it's a bad look on a broad.
I doubt her boyfriend minds since he gets to smash it and see her without those pants. Plus, it seems she doesn't wear them all the time.Her lower half would be far more alluring, if her pants were tighter

You're right, it could simply be a matter of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" (to explain why the younger generation wears baggy pants)(5) Why does some fashion repeat while others fad? | LinkedIn
I wear straight jeans and prefer them to slim fit. The point is, that’s what’s in style for the younger generation. Trends like septum piercings and broccoli hair are popular, and for many young people, it’s all about “when in Rome, do as the Romans do.”
While I understand that these trends appeal to some, everyone has their own preferences. For example, I’m not a fan of septum piercings, but I don’t complain about it. I respect that some people like them. If I were to date someone with a septum piercing, I might playfully suggest they take it out, as I believe a lighthearted approach would be more effective for them to take my lead. However, I doubt I would date someone with a septum piercing in the first place.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I remember the whale tail trend being super popular when I was in 8th grade.There are signs https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/lifes...-xcx-billie-eilish-rebellious-and-subversive/ that things are changing
Perhaps they can also resurrect a love of comedy and a willingness to defend it ferociously, even when not personally finding the joke all that funny. A return to the social atmosphere we enjoyed during even the late 90s-early 2000s, imperfect though it was, would be most welcomeI found a promising article:
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Millennial explains to Gen Z the true meaning of low-rise jeans
The woman wanted to talk about a controversial fashion staple of the early 2000s.www.newsweek.com
Apparently the low rise jeans of the early 2000s are the latest old trend to come back into style. Hopefully this means the trend of a modern-day young woman rocking the baggy pants of the 90s has died out (the article even mentions the 90s mom jeans Gen Z trend)
I speak for a lot of men when I say low rise jeans are a good look on a woman. Even if the low rise jeans Gen Z is bringing back aren't as low rise as the early 2000s low rise jeans, still a step in the right direction.
Was a kid in that era; agree it'd be an awesome era to return to in some ways (if we're lucky, perhaps the dating/sex marketplace could return to that era)Perhaps they can also resurrect a love of comedy and a willingness to defend it ferociously, even when not personally finding the joke all that funny. A return to the social atmosphere we enjoyed during even the late 90s-early 2000s, imperfect though it was, would be most welcome
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Fellas of your ilk wouldn't have had a proliferation of Incel and MGTOW forums online to retreat into, this is trueI guess I was born 20 years too late. If only I was 33 in 2004, I wouldn't be dealing with the oversatutation of the 2024 market.
Dating in 2004 was not some magical time either. You likely would have struggled as a 33 year old in 2004.I guess I was born 20 years too late. If only I was 33 in 2004, I wouldn't be dealing with the oversatutation of the 2024 market.
More importantly, even though online dating existed in 2004, we weren't yet at the point where broads could get thousands of suitors right after setting up a profile.Fellas of your ilk wouldn't have had a proliferation of Incel and MGTOW forums online to retreat into, this is true
I'm not saying I would have slayed at 33 in an alternative universe where I was born 20 years sooner.Dating in 2004 was not some magical time either. You likely would have struggled as a 33 year old in 2004.
You have a lot of work to do on fixing your mindset and some other issues.
Even if you could have been 33 in 2004, I don't think the end outcome would have changed too much.
There are some things I miss about dating in 2004. When 2004 was happening, I was 20-21. There were some good elements of that time.
I can't go back to 2004 even if I wanted to do that. I need to create solutions for the present time, not daydream about a period that I can't re-create now.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Awhile back, there was a vanishingly small clique of women who emulated Billie Ellish and the likes fondness for baggy garb. As you say though, this wasn't most chicksThis thread seems a bit ridiculous to me.
Dallas women don't tend to wear baggy pants. There might be some subculture around Dallas where women would wear baggy pants but I've never seen it in all the years I've lived here.
Dallas women are into looking good and presenting themselves well. Baggy pants aren't going to do that for them.
https://genius.com/Don-henley-the-boys-of-summer-lyricsI can't go back to 2004 even if I wanted to do that. I need to create solutions for the present time, not daydream about a period that I can't re-create now.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.