Private Sex Party

[Vanderdonck]

It's the reason great civilizations like Rome for example fell down.....they were having orgies in the streets and what not.

See, this is why I failed History.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I thought it was pretty clear. This situation may or may not happen, let her lead. If it does happen, understand that jealousy may ensue on either side. When she said hypothetically, I took that to mean she was non committal on this, but the way you answered her put words in her mouth. A hint jumpy on your end. Cool down a notch.

I don't know where you saw I was jumpy at all. I'm pretty cool bro.

Knowing her, I understood it as a clear proposition, as stated when I asked her to elaborate.

I have not put words in her mouth. She said her friend Sara invited her. So it was a thing.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Let it be her idea and she needs to take the lead on it. Other than that I've never encountered something like this. I'd probably go a long with it. I doubt I'd ask too many questions beforehand, that causes women to over think. Just go with the flow. I hope you don't see anything long term with this girl.

Yeah, I'm down for that. Totally agree w/ you and your approach. I don't say much via msg anyways.

I had my sahre of 3somes and 4 somes w/ chicks, but thist also never happened to me before, so that's why I'm going along.

And no, the minute I got the proposition was the minute the plate 'fell' as stated bellow.

Well, I'm going, and farewell to the plate. Keep you guys posted!

 

[Lotus Effect]

The question is here what do you want?

At the end of the day you know where you are going to. This is probably a Swinger Club.

If you are a guy that likes new experiences and enjoys crazy lifestyle choices for a change, go and do it.

It is not my thing, TBH, but as @Tilex said:

This is probably a once in lifetime opportunity for you. You might as well take a chance on it.

I figured why not?

At the cost of a plate, in the long run, when I'm in my late 70s, I can recall that with a laught and say I checked that out of the bucket list.

Let's see how it unfolds

 

[Lotus Effect]

Not my scene , I can just about get onboard with threesomes and foursomes

But once you start going down the route of orgies and sex parties the act just becomes devalued especially as a man

Women enjoy them because most have deep routed fetishes to take multiple men at once, its a feminine desire to just submit to multiple me and let them ravish you

But what exactly are you supposed to be getting out of it as a man ?

Yeah, I actually agree 100% with you.

It is the same as an open relationship, you know? It is a terrible deal on the male side.

Not a thing to keep doing.
Definetly not my scene, as I enjoy the intimacy of it, the one on one.

But a one timer to see it? at the cost of a plate. Let's see.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Not much, just having sex with several other women in front of your lover.

Yeah, I guess this is it.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I'm assuming it will be in front of other men as well, like in the living room, bathroom, room, letting other men watching you ****ing women, like in p0rn, since when sex for men became such a degenerate $hit? Or men today have they brain so fvcked up that they need those experiences to be fulfilled?

I thought threesome with two women was the fantasy of evey men, not going to a sex party were men are fvcking women in front of other men. Society hads to collapse, definitely.

Just imagine the type of disgusting girl this guy is dating and fvcking. I was living in Charleston, SC, where they have pineapple sign for swingers, and I've known too many people like that, they're the biggest scums of society, no respect for their family, no respect for intimacy, everyone fvcks everyone, it was really sad to see what sex meant for those people, and they all caught stds at some point.

Here you are again, always pointing fingers.
I made this thread to have an adult conversation.

I told that this is also not my thing, and here you go assuming things about who I am, or what I do.

I'm done with you bro. I would be glad if you avoid conversing with me.

About the kind of girls I'm fvkcing?
Cheerleaders, yoga instructors and runnaways models. The kind of girls you can only dream of, buddy.

I've said you more than once.

Take a hike. And go back to your T-shots, late bloomer.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I don't know where you saw I was jumpy at all. I'm pretty cool bro.

Knowing her, I understood it as a clear proposition, as stated when I asked her to elaborate.

I have not put words in her mouth. She said her friend Sara invited her. So it was a thing.

You asked my opinion, I’m just giving it to you.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I haven’t either, but it’s an interesting situation and I am curious about how it plays out. I have a lot of potential outcomes in my head but I am not going to list them here. I do wonder though if this is really her first time or she’s being coy. I am leaning latter.

Yeah, I'm also curious, so I'm playing along. Let's see.

If you wanna list the potential outcomes, be my guest bro. I don't mind.

And regarding wondering if it is her first time, most def not.

100% coy.
But you know, I'm a grown man, I second guess even my mother's love lol.

I do think that it was a razor sharp invitation tho.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Hey mate!

- What do I want with this girl? Potential LTR, plate?

- Not much. I was aiming at fvck buddy.

- After seeing her being ****ed by someone else (maybe even more than one guy), would I be able to maintain the same relationship with her?

It's one thing to know in your mind that she's with someone else; it's another to see it with your own eyes.

- Most probably not.

I had one past plate whose I completely lost interest when we were at a party and I saw her making out with a guy, and afterwards with a chick. I just lost interest then and there. I guess the same will apply.

This is bound to happen in October, so it has a shelf life.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I'd go. I have gone in fact. It's just sex. All depends on your values though. I'm a hedonist.

If it happens I'm going, just to see it.

But it kind goes against my values. Sex just for the sake of sex.
I'm a budhist, and one of the five precepts is 'not indulging in sexual miscondut'. I guess orgy kind falls into this category.

Participating in an orgy will ruin you spiritually in my opinion.

It's the reason great civilizations like Rome for example fell down.....they were having orgies in the streets and what not.

I hope you're concentrating on your purpose in life, because these types of acts will drain you massively.

Think of a boxer participating in these events before a crucial fight....he'd be too distracted and drained.

Besides making love to a woman you truely respect and love in the long run will be way more fulfilling.

I'm more leaning towards this actually.

 

[Lotus Effect]

Nobody here knows you, we all are assuming based on what you write.

You see how defensive you get when people challenge you? We all can see your insecurities and need for validation from strangers. You ask opinions and we are giving it to you, but it doesn't match with what you have in mind.

You posted this thread thinking "Holy $hit, this is great, I'm the best guy in bed, I'm gonna post this thread so everyone can read how awesome I am, but I'm gonna tag certain people only cause I know them based on what they write, and I know they're awesome like me"

If you wanted only opinions from certain people, you would have sent them a private messages.

Also, a guy who fvcks all types of women like you say you are, doesn't need advice from anyone and much less from people in a forum, cause he has that area already figured out, you're still a nice guy seeking validation from others, that's how nice guy behave when people challenge them, they attack other with $hit that doesn't make sense and are very emotional.

We all been there bro, shed the need for validation and you'll live a happier life.

Again, you should bring a mirror to everything you write bro.

I need opinion, not validation.

You just joined the chat.

Go sit in the passenger seat, and show some respect for your better.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I'm actually sitting on the toilet right now. Keep us posted.

Makes sense, as you are spilling sh!t through your fingertips.

Once again, use this time to study, instead of typing.

Rule of thumb:
Talk less, listen more.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yeah, I'm also curious, so I'm playing along. Let's see.

If you wanna list the potential outcomes, be my guest bro. I don't mind.

And regarding wondering if it is her first time, most def not.

100% coy.
But you know, I'm a grown man, I second guess even my mother's love lol.

I do think that it was a razor sharp invitation tho.

I just want to point out that I have no interest in telling you how to live your life. You’re asking me for opinions so I’m continuing to share them.

If your interests and hers align here i wouldn’t be dissuaded from the idea of forming a relationship with her down the road, whatever that looks like to the two of you, if that’s mutually interesting. The idea that she’s honest with you on something that’s relatively taboo in society is a good thing. People certainly pick and choose where they are honest so i am not necessarily saying she’s got a lot of character but so far she hasn’t shown us that she is low character , in my opinion. Good companionship is not easy to come by, and life is much shorter than people think. Do whatever works for you.

Just go enjoy yourself, whatever that looks like, and keep us posted either way.

 

[Vanderdonck]

If it happens I'm going, just to see it.

But it kind goes against my values. Sex just for the sake of sex.
I'm a budhist, and one of the five precepts is 'not indulging in sexual miscondut'. I guess orgy kind falls into this category.


I'm more leaning towards this actually.

Buddhism, that's cool, I like that. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder as I personally don't see it as misconduct (consenting adults not hurting anyone). But - each of us is different and must do what's best for ourselves personally.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I just want to point out that I have no interest in telling you how to live your life. You’re asking me for opinions so I’m continuing to share them.

If your interests and hers align here i wouldn’t be dissuaded from the idea of forming a relationship with her down the road, whatever that looks like to the two of you, if that’s mutually interesting. The idea that she’s honest with you on something that’s relatively taboo in society is a good thing. People certainly pick and choose where they are honest so i am not necessarily saying she’s got a lot of character but so far she hasn’t shown us that she is low character , in my opinion. Good companionship is not easy to come by, and life is much shorter than people think. Do whatever works for you.

Just go enjoy yourself, whatever that looks like, and keep us posted either way.

Yes of course mate,

I thank you for sharing it with me.

Again, this specific situation never happened to me.
I shared this with some close mates of mine, and their opinion are very much like yours.

And I wouldn't say she is low character. Much on the contrary.
She had her folks the other day, and they spent a week here in Lisbon with her. She was very happy about it.
Always go on and on about family. She got a big family. I guess 3 or 4 sisters.

So yeah, let's see.

PS: This: "Good companionship is not easy to come by, and life is much shorter than people think". Is gospel

 

[Lotus Effect]

Buddhism, that's cool, I like that. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder as I personally don't see it as misconduct (consenting adults not hurting anyone). But - each of us is different and must do what's best for ourselves personally.

Yeah, it is actually pretty cool, and much of the manosphere early materials are linked in a sense with budhist aproach, especially Pook.

And yes, I understand you point. Actually, in that regard, I agree with you.

What the texts says, as misconduct, is not about consent tho, it is about the act itself, as a form of indulgence / degradation.

The texts say something along these lines:

"Aroused sensuality leads to the decline of one’s nature; extreme pleasure will be followed by tragedy. For the sake of vitality and longevity, on should try to abstain from such."

So is just kind of a guidance.
I'm not a strict follower (otherwise I wouldn't be here), but I do agree with the mindset behind it.

 

[Lotus Effect]

That is such a weak argument:
"Every time I pleasured myself on a woman, I was sad afterwards and she was crying about me coming on her face like an animal and not making her climax first and so maybe people shouldn't enjoy sex."

This is not an argument mate.

This is a passage from one of the 5 precepts of budhism man. I just gave clarification on the matter.

As I've said, if I was strict, I wouldn't be in this forum in the 1st place, talking about orgies, and plate spining, and fvking chiks as an animal.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Yes of course mate,

I thank you for sharing it with me.

Again, this specific situation never happened to me.
I shared this with some close mates of mine, and their opinion are very much like yours.

And I wouldn't say she is low character. Much on the contrary.
She had her folks the other day, and they spent a week here in Lisbon with her. She was very happy about it.
Always go on and on about family. She got a big family. I guess 3 or 4 sisters.

So yeah, let's see.

PS: This: "Good companionship is not easy to come by, and life is much shorter than people think". Is gospel

I wasn’t planning to contribute anything else but something came across that caught my attention in real life today.

I have a history with a woman that is a personal trainer now at my gym. She came to the gym not knowing I went there, but in relation to that happening I looked her up. The last communication we had was in late June regarding working out and hooking up. The instagram and texts could not be mistaken.

Guess who is engaged, and seems like she has been for quite some time? Half the town must be running through that woman.

I just thought this was interesting in consideration of your situation.

 

[Lotus Effect]

I wasn’t planning to contribute anything else but something came across that caught my attention in real life today.

I have a history with a woman that is a personal trainer now at my gym. She came to the gym not knowing I went there, but in relation to that happening I looked her up. The last communication we had was in late June regarding working out and hooking up. The instagram and texts could not be mistaken.

Guess who is engaged, and seems like she has been for quite some time? Half the town must be running through that woman.

I just thought this was interesting in consideration of your situation.

I don't know if I lack the english skills or if my brain is just more slow today.

But can you elaborate more. I quite didn't got mate.