How do regular guys without game get a girlfriend?

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You put the effort in to become more than regular

 

[Mike32ct]

It’s a good question the OP has.

It’s just that, with all due respect, it’s very hard to get specific actionable advice from normie (or higher) guys about how they landed their (eg social circle) girlfriend.

He’s just going to say something like, “I just acted normal. I was myself, and I talked to her blah blah.”

And he’s being honest. But the advice won’t really “land” for a lot of guys without a gf.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Brutal but true. Getting a GF is just a part of life.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Many people are not weird when talking to women, the same way they aren't weird when talking to random people, men or women or to anyone at the office or whatever.

If you are weird with other people and holding a conversation, you will likely be weird with women. That shouldn't be a surprise.

and if a guy is weird socially or in social situations, a lot of those people who do get labeled weird socially, they just aren't aware of what they are doing that is wrong, that is why they unfortuneately have to get help so others can identify their blind spots.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Just learn how to talk to people. Go out and talk to people and have no expectations.

another reminder, in which i have had this mindset for years now, men are the only gender that have to practice when it comes to learning social dynamics or just getting better socially, makes sense, the person who has to open their mouth first is the one who has to practice.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Right.

if humanity and society went back to the way it was previously like you described, i'm sure there would be a lot less lonely single people in the world.

 

[Manure Spherian]

if humanity and society went back to the way it was previously like you described, i'm sure there would be a lot less lonely single people in the world.

I believe most people do not want to take the harsh and burdensome measures to make that so.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Brutal but true. Getting a GF is just a part of life.
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This makes perfect sense but I believe the social conditions for this to happen at the rate it used to are not there anymore. I say they lastly ended in the late 90s or aughts. Even some of our parents would be womanless today, I believe.

 

[Machine10033]

When i go for a walk , most of the couples i see are 90% with the hot babe is either average man hot girl or above average man with hot girl. Rarely a couple which is hot guy - hot girl.

Game is not as well known where i come from. So question is , how are these guys getting hot girlfriends without game?

Brutal but true. Getting a GF is just a part of life.
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Some on this forum are literally crushed by analysis paralysis. Most dudes find a girl in high school or college... simply ask her out... take her on a few fun dates... and through social programming they feel it’s time to settle down and create a life.

In my opinion the “game” is easy... work on yourself, have a decent interesting life, have a decent career and literally reflect and ask yourself ... if I was a girl would I want to hang out with me. Being fun goes along way

 

[Gamisch]

Op, let's go back to the moment you were walking down the street with your girl. Dude passing by posted THIS thread: " I saw @DoofusDonutDude (wwho does NOT lift more than mEE) with a HOT piece of azz. What did he do to obtain her???"

What is your answer? And that sir, answers your own question.

 

[Gamisch]

I'll keep saying this:

Stop making assumptions about "couples" you see in public. He could easily be friendzoned, or worse. You have no idea the nature of their relationship.

This!!

This way thinking is what traps the bluepilled minded man jn a bad relationship. Because he's more concerned with what the outside world thinks about him than his own piece of mind.

You know NOTHING about what happens behind closed curtains. If I've learned anything is that most relationships lose their juice after two years. There are ZERO reasons to be envious. If you would be stuck in such a relationship you'd be jelous of the single guys who are seemingly living care free. Grass always seems greener at that side.

 

[Gamisch]

and if a guy is weird socially or in social situations, a lot of those people who do get labeled weird socially, they just aren't aware of what they are doing that is wrong, that is why they unfortuneately have to get help so others can identify their blind spots.

I also don't like the way men shame each other for seeking help.

Nowadays people simply use the internet to get answers. And something as intuitive like liking women basically became like high level math.

Before i ever heard about the redpill, i was a bluepilled man sitting on my high horse while I kept making the same mistakes over and over again.

If only I knew SOONER about forums like this...

 

[SW15]

Even some of our parents would be womanless today, I believe.

+1. I agree with this. Plenty of Boomer males who are 60-77 right now would be incel or borderline incel had they been born as 1980s-1990s Millennials.

Without game, a man can still obtain a girlfriend with his looks, money, and status. But he won’t be able to sustain her long term. Eventually, his lack of game will kill her attraction. It is female nature she can’t help it.

Game is a combination of looks, money, status, and personality. It is possible to get a girlfriend on looks, money, or status. Bill Gates got a long term girlfriend/wife based on money and his Microsoft CEO status despite being unimpressive on looks and personality.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

n=1

My wife chased me when I was a kissless virgin making 15k/year.
I married her, then she lost attraction shortly after. We had a dead bedroom for nearly 3 years, and even then it was still subpar (only redpill tactics saved it).

I had no game at all and my wife was super into me.

how did she chase you? did she shoot her shot with your or make a move on you, make advances on you? just want to interpret that, since for all time and likely all eternity, that will always be a rarity of women.

as what another guy said, "I believe most people do not want to take the harsh and burdensome measures to make that so."

I can believe that, but at the same time, if that was the case, i can imagine that being the case that there would be a lot less single/lonely people today.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Actually, it's not that rare for handsome men to be pursued by women. Women can form an emotional connection out of nothing. I've been stalked twice; and pursued seven times (out of some eighty plus women). And I'm not even that handsome.

i can believe that, i don't disagree, but women still normally never shoot their shot with men they like, men are still normally the ones that fire the first shot or are the ones that do the approaching, asking out.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

And that will always be the case. Women taking initiative is pretty rare, but I found that as an older man who doesn't chase younger women, the younger women start chasing you (if you're an attractive older man).

yup, i remember i read this in a book:

"Men initiating an interaction with women has always been (and always will be) a fundamental part of courtship. From the ancient days until now, it’s been primarily up to a man to
commence
a possible connection between two people."

yup i can agree with that, even though when i did some research about the history of this, it was apparently, the case that, approaching or just cold approaching was not neccessary or not the norm centuries ago, as when described on how couples used to normally previously met.

 

[Manure Spherian]

yup i can agree with that, even though when i did some research about the history of this, it was apparently, the case that, approaching or just cold approaching was not neccessary or not the norm centuries ago, as when described on how couples used to normally previously met.

Even if it was not approaching—and as we’ve recognized, it certainly was not cold approaching, which wasn’t even tolerated in some societies—men typically have had to display themselves in some way.

Also, females were not “liberated” until relatively recently.

 

[sangheilios]

Brutal but true. Getting a GF is just a part of life.
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There's a lot of truth to this.

My opinion, I think there are increasingly more and more young men that totally missed out on this due to unusual circumstances. It could literally be something like they have poor social confidence or skills in high school, so they naturally miss out on this easy opportunity to gain dating experience. They start getting into their 20s and unless they were in a set of circumstances to work on their social skills or have proximity to women their age, the end result is nothing changes. It could literally be some guy that went into the military, or just worked a job or perhaps was majoring in computer engineering or some other male dominated field. The trend you'll find is that they are in male dominated environments with little to no real opportunity to interact with women. Next thing you know these guys are in their mid to late 20s and still have little to no experience with the opposite sex. Women pick up on this, where they feel something is "off" and they naturally reject them. Then the mental cycle continues where they get poor or even no results for their efforts, meanwhile they see other men where things just line up for them with no real effort, which just makes it even worse.

I post this because a lot of what I just wrote was my experience as I've gone from my teens and into my 30s now. I'm 6'4" and in way better shape than the overwhelming majority of men in general. I also have a much higher net worth, though I keep this hidden. I'm a way better "catch" than what these women have gone for but have been rejected a ton of times, while they choose guys that don't even have half of the things I bring to the table. The difference between me and these blackpill types though is that I just find amusement in it and focused on other things in my life instead of ruminating over it.

 

[sangheilios]

Some on this forum are literally crushed by analysis paralysis. Most dudes find a girl in high school or college... simply ask her out... take her on a few fun dates... and through social programming they feel it’s time to settle down and create a life.

In my opinion the “game” is easy... work on yourself, have a decent interesting life, have a decent career and literally reflect and ask yourself ... if I was a girl would I want to hang out with me. Being fun goes along way

I totally agree with you, but I think a lot of women have very messed up mindsets when it comes to dating, making mate choices, etc.

One thing that I believe is not up for debate is that many women have dating ADHD due to the sheer overabundance of choices they have, or at least perceive to have, due to social media and dating apps. A woman in one week today could have more potential suitors than a women in the 20th century would have had in an entire lifetime. This leads to being MORE selective in order to filter out so many different options. However, she will also start to reject men for more trivial things knowing that she has plenty of other options available. It could be some very specific thing like the way he chews his food that results in her going for the next guy. However, the next guy has a laugh that she finds kind of irritating lol. If she does this enough she will find that it becomes increasingly more and more difficult for her to find what it is she is looking for. Sure, this woman can get sex when she wants to, but she will probably find that she is frustrated and lonely as well.

There's also a cultural element going on where women are "boss bitches" where they think they are hot **** or something lol. It's something I've noticed with female friend groups, where they kind of all hype each other up and are way to judgmental towards men. I've discussed this on here and with @SW15 but I grew up in the Boston area and recall this story from new/young female nurses complaining about how there were no men with "brains" in the area, which is ridiculous to say the least. I have multiple theories as to why this is, but one of them also involves them behaving this way as a defense mechanism. Something I've noticed is that some of these women have had experiences with getting pumped and dumped or cheated on. Another thing I've noticed is that they there is also a trend towards bouncing from one failed relationship to the next. I think given enough of these experiences these women internally compensate for these feelings by behaving this way and having this attitude towards men.

I'll also add that many young women today come from backgrounds with no father figure at all or ones that were fairly absent from their lives. The end result of this is many young women that have NO respect for men as a whole or perhaps really don't know how to interact with them. These are the types of women that you'll find chase the emotionally unavailable "bad boys", whilst regularly rejecting men who would treat them well and be invested into a relationship with them.

 

[Pandora]

There's a lot of truth to this.

My opinion, I think there are increasingly more and more young men that totally missed out on this due to unusual circumstances. It could literally be something like they have poor social confidence or skills in high school, so they naturally miss out on this easy opportunity to gain dating experience. They start getting into their 20s and unless they were in a set of circumstances to work on their social skills or have proximity to women their age, the end result is nothing changes. It could literally be some guy that went into the military, or just worked a job or perhaps was majoring in computer engineering or some other male dominated field. The trend you'll find is that they are in male dominated environments with little to no real opportunity to interact with women. Next thing you know these guys are in their mid to late 20s and still have little to no experience with the opposite sex. Women pick up on this, where they feel something is "off" and they naturally reject them. Then the mental cycle continues where they get poor or even no results for their efforts, meanwhile they see other men where things just line up for them with no real effort, which just makes it even worse.

I post this because a lot of what I just wrote was my experience as I've gone from my teens and into my 30s now. I'm 6'4" and in way better shape than the overwhelming majority of men in general. I also have a much higher net worth, though I keep this hidden. I'm a way better "catch" than what these women have gone for but have been rejected a ton of times, while they choose guys that don't even have half of the things I bring to the table. The difference between me and these blackpill types though is that I just find amusement in it and focused on other things in my life instead of ruminating over it.

This happens a lot more than we think. I know a couple guys that are in there 20s and late 30s who are virgins because of just life circumstances. These are decent looking guys too.

One guy his mom died early in his life and he just played too many video games as a cope.

The other guy just grew up hyper religious. Another kid is a medical doctor now and it just never happend for him. He is kinda nerdy and is south asian. Very nice and intelligent person.

The other dude is a nice guy. A good friend of mine who is a computer nerd and it just never happened.

These days you really have to try hard to get puzzy. It wont fall in your lap anymore. The isolation of being a video gamer makes the whole situation worse.

Btw man just travel overseas. You will get puzzy. If you dont get puzzy over seas then its your fault.