"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You dont know anything at 30 yrs old

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I am sure all you guys can relate to this post. I have grown so much in the last 8yrs. When I was 30yrs old I thought I was wise. I am a totally different person now. My political views including views on everything else is so much more nuanced now.

Its sobering to realize how ignorant I was. It is humbling to think that when I am 48 i will look back and say " damn i did not know anything when I was 38".

Life is crazy. The more you know the more you realize that you don't know anything.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I think there´s always something to learn. Many great posters have dissapeared but I dont see myself leaving anytime soon.
 

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I used to always look back on myself and how I was 1-3 years ago and would always say "I was an idiot". However I've noticed that those intervals are becoming longer as I get older and I wouldn't really say I was an idiot a few years ago, not even 5 years ago. What's changed is dealing with cognitive dissonance and learning to accept conflicting beliefs by realizing you don't know enough.

Of course, I expect to be more wise 10 years than now, but the difference in wisdom between 30 and 40 probably isn't as great as 20 -> 30, and like you said a lot of it may be refinement and nuance. Wisdom accumulates only in retrospect and it's mostly from learning about your mistakes. Most people make many mistakes in their 20s and you should know them by the time you're in your early 30s imo.

On that note, it seems like some people stop "growing" after 30. They think they already know everything an aren't open to new information that may challenge their beliefs and certainly aren't going to undergo paradigm shifts or admit to themselves that they may be wrong about many things. So if your head isn't on straight by 30 or so, it seems unlikely anything would change by 40.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The information/advice was always there, but you don’t necessarily appreciate it and/or take it seriously until much later.
I've always maintained that advice is overrated, you have to experience things for yourself to truly understand them, even if you know they're a mistake, just roll with it if everything is pointing you towards it. I really believe in the adage "a fool who persists in his folly will become wise". Stumble forward, embrace failures.

The alternative is doing what others tell you and not thinking for yourself, not trusting your gut, never taking risks... you won't learn a damn thing. Besides, everyone is different and some people can go completely off the rails and do wild, ill-advised, unconventional things and end up making it work for them anyway. Men who are bold, take risk, and break convention can change society. Otherwise we'll all be unthinking NPCs.
 

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When I was 30yrs old I thought I was wise.
Right?! Going even further back; when I grew from 18 to 25 I thought I was wise. Like I had improved exponentially, in every aspect. Isn't it hilarious. I was still just a child chasing tail.

The ego is a killer of progress. As much as arrogance or impulsiveness.
Bingo. The more you know the more you realize you don't know.
 

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And you in time learn it’s OK not to know all the answers. In youth we all tend toward being know it alls. With more time and greater experience you learn to acknowledge that you don’t know stuff. And you get more comfortable admitting when you don’t know.
 

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The more you experience and learn the more you realize how less you know.
I remember when I joined this forum a few years ago after splitting up with my children’s mother and I thought I suddenly figured out everything just to get fcked over in my last relationship.

I also realized that I learn more when I’m in a uncomfortable situation. My dad was very lucky with my mom because she never left no matter what he did but he also didn’t evolve much because of that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hi Flexpert,
" I've always maintained that advice is overrated, you have to experience things for yourself to truly understand them, even if you know they're a mistake, just roll with it"....Mate I don't have to jump off a cliff to know it's going to hurt!
 

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Hi Flexpert,
" I've always maintained that advice is overrated, you have to experience things for yourself to truly understand them, even if you know they're a mistake, just roll with it"....Mate I don't have to jump off a cliff to know it's going to hurt!
It depends on what we're talking about. As a motorcycle rider I take the advice that seasoned riders/coaches share without question, because it's not worth getting brain damage to learn how to be safe in traffic. They learned from their mistakes and shared them so I'll listen intently. I don't need to experience jumping off a cliff that it would hurt me or kill me to jump off a cliff. I'm talking about more nuanced things that have less obvious explainations or answers.

Problem is, if you are blindly doing what people/society at large tells you this can be a mistake, especially if your gut tells you otherwise. Maybe your gut is telling you otherwise because you are an individual with different circumstances and you know it. Much of our common sense is just flat out unhelpful or even harmful.
 
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