"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Since when are these mutually exclusive? I never knew all Phd's are lovely darlings with perfect behavior.

Even if they were mutually exclusive, similar ramifications can and do occur.
Again, my variable isn't who, but numbers. If dating multiple felons is bad, then dating 1 felon is also bad.

Why are you trying to see if other men approve or disapprove of their daughters being impulsive, agency-lacking, self-destructive idiots or not?
Give people like you a chance to vent.

I am unsure but I think you haven't given much thought to social ramifications to which I imply or have directly referred to.

Why did my posts have such an impression on you that you recalled them four months later?
I was using you as an example. I went back to my thread to look for the people I was debating with.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Since when are these mutually exclusive? I never knew all Phd's are lovely darlings with perfect behavior.

Even if they were mutually exclusive, similar ramifications can and do occur.

Why are you trying to see if other men approve or disapprove of their daughters being impulsive, agency-lacking, self-destructive idiots or not?

I am unsure but I think you haven't given much thought to social ramifications to which I imply or have directly referred to.

Why did my posts have such an impression on you that you recalled them four months later?
OP is likely "salt-mining" these threads so he/she can take screens-shots and post them on reddit to show how he/she outsmarted what many redditors consider to be "knuckle-dragging misogynists."
 

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OP is likely "salt-mining" these threads so he/she can take screens-shots and post them on reddit to show how he/she outsmarted what many redditors consider to be "knuckle-dragging misogynists."
It is peculiar. I don't like psychoanalyzing others unless their behavior, statements or posts seem unusually odd, but it did have me asking myself, "what the heck?"
 

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Again, my variable isn't who, but numbers. If dating multiple felons is bad, then dating 1 felon is also bad.
Well it depends. Is a daughter being a slut, to Tyrones and Joses, or is she being a slut to PhD grad students? My variable isn't who, but math. Just as female police officers that have kicked it with multiple guy police officers, or college professors.
There is no normal father who condones his daughter ruining her academic program, (which he might be paying for), especially at the Phd level, or career, by turning them into psycho-sexual nightmares, what some women actually do.

What kind of question is this?
 

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There is no normal father who condones his daughter ruining her academic program, (which he might be paying for), especially at the Phd level, or career, by turning them into psycho-sexual nightmares, what some women actually do.

What kind of question is this?
It's picking an analogy. You chose to use examples of criminal men, and I changed it to academic men. The point is, it's not who, but the amount. If you neither like thug men or academic men, that's your preference, I was just (trying) to find opposite examples. I didn't ask you which type of men you like for your daughter, the point is, these were just examples.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mental problems, most likely. Pretty much all of his threads are nonsensical.
Lib mentally. You're supposed to talk sht about someone, to their face, not as a response to someone else. I been on the Internet since 2000, seen this pattern happen all the time.
 

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It's picking an analogy. You chose to use examples of criminal men, and I changed it to academic men. The point is, it's not who, but the amount. If you neither like thug men or academic men, that's your preference, I was just (trying) to find opposite examples. I didn't ask you which type of men you like for your daughter, the point is, these were just examples.
I actually don’t know what you are talking about considering these two groups can have characteristics that are not mutually exclusive.

Do you understand what I wrote? I mean, I’m not great at writing but I think I get my points across good enough.
 

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I actually don’t know what you are talking about considering these two groups can have characteristics that are not mutually exclusive.

You seem to not know what I’m talking about either.
I'll try to explain again. The examples you used, of daughters being promiscuous men, happen to be "bad" people. But my argument wasn't about the types of men women are promiscuous to, but the amount of men. Since some can use bad men as bad examples, then I tried to shift the argument to "good" men as promiscuous examples. The point is, this thread is about numbers, not about the type of men.
 

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I'll try to explain again. The examples you used, of daughters being promiscuous men, happen to be "bad" people. But my argument wasn't about the types of men women are promiscuous to, but the amount of men. Since some can use bad men as bad examples, then I tried to shift the argument to "good" men as promiscuous examples. The point is, this thread is about numbers, not about the type of men.
O yea, and here's the other thing. This thread isn't about women sleeping with promiscuous men either. But women having photos of themselves surrounded by men, and having that on social media.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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A conversation about conversations, or in this case, a conversation about opinions.
These conversations typically produce no change whatsoever, it's just a dialogue.
Maybe I'll get to your question, but there are a handful of cases where you can change people's opinions.

I get into a lot of arguments with Black people, on Facebook... When a Black person is killed by a White officer, as well as the death penalty.

Imagine telling a Black person that a Black person killed by a White officer is "justified" - to someone that is not the family.

In most Whites vs. Blacks death penalty debates, the Black people always say "you wouldn't support the death penalty if it were your own son."

So, Black people make it about family, then about race. All you got to do, is shift the argument back to about race "what if a White person killed your kids, you would oppose the death penalty for the White person?" And so and so forth.

When a Black person spits on a White officer and the White officer beats him down even if after handcuffing, and Black people develop all these "keep your hands to yourself" policies for the officer, just flip it the other way around "a White person spits on a Black officer and the officer beats the victim, now do you oppose it, do you want to see the officer go to prison" etc.
 

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Why do you, as an incel, post on this site about meta topics?
So I'm an outsider looking in. Every where to go. Mainly about getting women as well as meaningful employment.

I've spent years researching Hispanic and Black gangs in my city, now trying to learn about upper-class White people.
 

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Lib mentally. You're supposed to talk sht about someone, to their face, not as a response to someone else. I been on the Internet since 2000, seen this pattern happen all the time.
I don't think anyone here wants to make fun of you or finds amusement in it. But you communicate in such a manner that socially-well-adjusted people are likely going to consider odd.

But women having photos of themselves surrounded by men, and having that on social media.
Yes, for reasons stated above, this raises assumptions for me. Although I have only a small sample, all women I grew up with who were overly socialized with men have had problems.

now trying to learn about upper-class white people
Oh yeah? I have much experience with them. What do you want to know? I have a few family members and friends in this demographic.
 
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Your daughter sets her profile pic to being surrounded by guys, left and right of her, and she could be dressed sluttily.
If you were a person who did this she would be better off. You'd be doing her a favor to get a nut job from a father out of her life.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I also support the idea of giving women big salaries than men. I have some distant relatives in my family where the wife makes a lot more than the husband. And their relationships still work out fine. Insecure men are a fall-back on society...
Maybe they maintain an outward appearance of being fine but make no mistake the men are treated like a b!tch in their own house by them behind closed doors when nobody is around.
 

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I also support the idea of giving women big salaries than men. I have some distant relatives in my family where the wife makes a lot more than the husband. And their relationships still work out fine. Insecure men are a fall-back on society...

“The joke is, ‘The better you do at work, the more likely you are going to get a divorce,’” Charlotte Ljung, 39, a CEO of a luxury bed and furniture group in Sweden, told BBC. She also runs an online advice group for people getting divorced.”
 

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“The joke is, ‘The better you do at work, the more likely you are going to get a divorce,’” Charlotte Ljung, 39, a CEO of a luxury bed and furniture group in Sweden, told BBC. She also runs an online advice group for people getting divorced.”
Yes. Let married women get raises. Then they divorce their husbands and remain single.

Or give single women raises, and they remain single. Then they can go "God why me?"

I know some Hispanic girls who's ex set the bar high - they bought her a car. And being Hispanic all the men they know be gang bangers and they remain single... Create an OnlyFans, etc.
 

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Yes. Let married women get raises. Then they divorce their husbands and remain single.

Or give single women raises, and they remain single. Then they can go "God why me?"

I know some Hispanic girls who's ex set the bar high - they bought her a car. And being Hispanic all the men they know be gang bangers and they remain single... Create an OnlyFans, etc.
Do you have a woman or want one?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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