ARrocket
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I'm watching Bernard Tomic playing Verdasco at the Australian Open, looks like he might win! This kid is only 19 and already went to the quarters are Wimbledon last year. I think he'll be world #1 in a few years .
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Anybody follow pro tennis?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Yeah after a tournament he played in Cincinnati that I attended he spent a good amount of time signing autographs and posing for pictures with the ladies.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
I just don't see anybody else that will take over, granted Djokovic is still only 24, so who knows.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Yeh, Djok, Murray and Nadal will still be around for many years yet. Perhaps there will be a short window after this for Tomic to have a chance (like in the period where you had Hewitt, Kuerten and Rios taking #1 between the Sampras and Federer eras), but otherwise, there will be a lot more talent that develops by the time the current crop of top few guys go downhill.
Vantagepoint34
Master Don Juan
Novak is pretty dominant right now. Tomic has a future in the top ten though not so sure he'll be number one.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Just a thought but Rafa's playing style is so hard on his body that I can see him only having 2-3 more years at the top. Already he's getting injured more and more, especially towards the end of each season. Just another reason I love Federer!
I wouldn't say his playing style is hard on his body, Federer does an aweful lot of running also. He is just more graceful than Nadal who is more explosive. Nadal is just unfortunate to be injury prone, but either way, you have him, Djokovic and Murray who could all still have a long time left yet and all are far better than anyone else on tour (Federer excluded of course).
I don't really see a dominant player over the next 3 years or longer. I could list at least 10 guys who could legitimate win each of the grand slams.
There are several guys that have quite a bit of parity right now. Del Potro has the firepower to win a major, so does Tsonga (though he lost recently). Murray's a great player, but he doesn't have that killer spirit needed to win majors.
Djokovic strikes me as one of those top players that will have a short-lived peak, will always be good, but won't dominate for years on end. I could see his career being similar to Lendl's.
There are several guys that have quite a bit of parity right now. Del Potro has the firepower to win a major, so does Tsonga (though he lost recently). Murray's a great player, but he doesn't have that killer spirit needed to win majors.
Djokovic strikes me as one of those top players that will have a short-lived peak, will always be good, but won't dominate for years on end. I could see his career being similar to Lendl's.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
yup love tennis.
Just federer playing 2 more years I think. Till then the top 4 men will stay the same. Djokovic will only become better, Nadal will become worse and murraty will stay at the same level. Federer will also keep up the good playing I think.
I think djokovic is going to take this grandslam, he's so good lately.
Just federer playing 2 more years I think. Till then the top 4 men will stay the same. Djokovic will only become better, Nadal will become worse and murraty will stay at the same level. Federer will also keep up the good playing I think.
I think djokovic is going to take this grandslam, he's so good lately.
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I enjoy playing tennis much more than I enjoy watching it. It's appropriate to revive this with Wimbledon going on.
Nadal and Federer kept playing well for a while after early 2012.
Rafael Nadal had another 10 years near the top after this, winning 2 majors in 2022 before injuries finally caught up with him.
Still dominant in 2023.
Djokovic did win the 2012 Australian Open when that was written.
Nadal and Federer kept playing well for a while after early 2012.
IKO69
Master Don Juan
When Federer retired I kind of stopped following. He was essentially my Tennis idol.
I saw a couple of women's matches during the Wimbledon tournament. I like Iga Swiatek and Elena Rybakina's style of play but they fell short.
I will catch the Djokovic - Alcaraz match today.
I like the sport and I play sometimes (Extreme novice - I suck)
I saw a couple of women's matches during the Wimbledon tournament. I like Iga Swiatek and Elena Rybakina's style of play but they fell short.
I will catch the Djokovic - Alcaraz match today.
I like the sport and I play sometimes (Extreme novice - I suck)
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Tennis isn't an easy game to learn. It takes some time to learn how to hit consistent rallies with others and then even more time to get good enough to hit winners at the right time in points.
One sport I found difficult to learn was bowling. I found the learning curve with bowling to be rather difficult. Bowling isn't fun if your score are under 100 or even 150. Tennis isn't fun unless you're getting in some good rallies.
Grass court tennis is unique. A good portion of the history of tennis has been played on grass.
Americans are now more familiar with playing tennis on some asphalt/concrete type surface known as a hard court. The majority of my playing experience has been on the hard courts. Most recreational/weekend warrior type tennis players in the USA won't play on grass courts. Grass courts are less than 1% of all courts in the USA.
The U.S. Open was played on grass courts until 1974.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
9-3enthusiast
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Wimbledon happening here in UK right now - The Men's final is today....
Alcaraz Garfia vs Djokovic - Just about to start I think....
It's 'Live' wall-to-wall on the BBC for the entire 2 weeks of the tourny...
Not my thing really - It coincides with the Tour de France, I watch Grand-Tour pro-cycling live as much as I can.
Watching the TdF live right now as it happens - A big mountain stage today, finishes at the ski station in Saint-Gervais on Mont Blanc.
Pogacar and Vingegard been trading 'blows' in all the mountain stages since the start - Great race between them yesterday, and anticipating fireworks again today.
Alcaraz Garfia vs Djokovic - Just about to start I think....
It's 'Live' wall-to-wall on the BBC for the entire 2 weeks of the tourny...
Not my thing really - It coincides with the Tour de France, I watch Grand-Tour pro-cycling live as much as I can.
Watching the TdF live right now as it happens - A big mountain stage today, finishes at the ski station in Saint-Gervais on Mont Blanc.
Pogacar and Vingegard been trading 'blows' in all the mountain stages since the start - Great race between them yesterday, and anticipating fireworks again today.
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Novak Djokovic is the outlier in performance after turning 30. Most tennis players aren't at their best after turning 30. Since 2000, there have been more good players winning major tournaments (Grand Slams) after age 30 in both men's and women's professional tennis.
Roger Federer winning 4 Grand Slams after turning 30 is quite good historically after age 30. There are also plenty of tennis players who don't win 4 Grand Slams for their entire career. Federer won 16 Grand Slams while in his 20s. Federer was a very competitive player in his 30s.