I feel this 100%I mean I wasn’t expecting to get flaked on 30 mins before lol dating sucks these days. I’m having issues these days I used to never have in all my life.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I feel this 100%I mean I wasn’t expecting to get flaked on 30 mins before lol dating sucks these days. I’m having issues these days I used to never have in all my life.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The bolded part will happen to all of us sooner or later. Don't let it sink you down, and don't be too hard on yourself, bro.I mean I wasn’t expecting to get flaked on 30 mins before lol dating sucks these days. I’m having issues these days I used to never have in all my life.
Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.Chilling at home watching Ohio State vs UGA and eating pizza with this girl I’ve been out with a couple times. Our club days are long gone, neither one of us wanted to go out. Works for me!
I only watch soccer games, have never played a soccer match in my life, but I hit the gym at least 4 times a week, so am I a "beta male"?Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
He was planning to do that with his girl before she flaked. Seriously, your comments are really hit and miss sometimes.Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I oftentimes enjoy and learn from your writing but, not sure I can pretend to sign onto this one.Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
I believe this. Many years ago, I went to this New Years' Eve party that was a complete dud. It was a private residence party and almost everyone was unattached. No one kissed at midnight. That was ridiculous.Went to party. Basically no girls. Just old friends bumming around, all in all a pretty boring new years. Left feeling disappointed and with a sense of urgency needing to extend my social group. Felt lonely despite being around people. Need to spend time focusing on building my social life back up this new year
Watching sports is a beta male activity. Play sports, don't watch them.
Watching sports has little benefit for a man. A typical sportsball game takes something like 2 hours, 45 minutes to 3 hours, 30 minutes.I oftentimes enjoy and learn from your writing but, not sure I can pretend to sign onto this one.
Who the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.Never mind. She just cancelled lol after asking “what kind of pizza do you want, I’ll go pick it up” to 30 mins later “hey I’m tired from cleaning all day, I’m just going to eat and go to bed. I won’t be much good company tonight”. Wtf? Women are the worst. Absolutely the worst. Terrible people.
She just cancelled lol after asking “what kind of pizza do you want, I’ll go pick it up” to 30 mins later “hey I’m tired from cleaning all day, I’m just going to eat and go to bed. I won’t be much good company tonight”. Wtf? Women are the worst. Absolutely the worst. Terrible people.
One of my male friends got a cancellation for New Years Eve too. His primary girl of 6+ months in a 2 girl rotation cancelled their NYE plans to spend time with a female friend. That is likely the end of that interaction for my friend.Who the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
I am against double and triple booking but I can follow the thought process behind why someone would do that.I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Who cancels on a date SHE initiated and came up with?lol and I mean cancels ON HER WAY TO PICK UP THE PIZZA SHE WAS BRINGING OVER. Then she had the nerve to tell me she was going to eat the pizza she ordered for me and then go to bed cause she was tired.lolWho the f0ck cancels on New Years Eve? My gut is telling me she is spinning men herself and a better option came up. F0ck her. I used to triple book back in my single days but many people here are against it.
That's really bad.Who cancels on a date SHE initiated and came up with?lol
That's even worse.and I mean cancels ON HER WAY TO PICK UP THE PIZZA SHE WAS BRINGING OVER. Then she had the nerve to tell me she was going to eat the pizza she ordered for me and then go to bed cause she was tired.lol
Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.That's really bad.
That's even worse.
There's no choice here but to end the interaction entirely.
You're not the only guy who has experienced this. What's even more shocking about this is that you played small school NCAA football. If you kept a similar physique as your small school NCAA football days, that's within the range of a top tier guy, if you are 6'0"+. Many football players are 6'0"+.Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
It's a common experience. The extent to which even marginally attractive women can take men utterly for granted today never ceases to amaze me.Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I’m in better shape now than when I was playing. I’m only 5’10 though, I was a cornerback.You're not the only guy who has experienced this. What's even more shocking about this is that you played small school NCAA football. If you kept a similar physique as your small school NCAA football days, that's within the range of a top tier guy, if you are 6'0"+. Many football players are 6'0"+.
@sangheilios is 6'4" and 230 lbs, which is the physique of an NFL player or a power hitter in MLB. He still gets lousy treatment from women as he has detailed in many threads.
I've begun to behave the same way. Not out of spite, really, but out of expediency. I really can't be bothered anymore to extend courtesy that's never reciprocated. I guess they win: I'm finally as bad as them. It actually helps reduce the crippling sense of outrage that occurs every time they pull some perfidious stunt, because now I'm guilty too.Well I haven’t heard from her since so I guess she’s ended the interaction already.lol I’m telling you, this stuff happens to me all the time lately. It’s like women have no respect for me and go out of their way to treat me like **** and not end things properly instead of making me look like a fool.
5'10" is an adequate size for a cornerback, especially 20-25 years ago, which is when I think you played.I’m in better shape now than when I was playing. I’m only 5’10 though, I was a cornerback.
Yeah I played 200-2003. The thing is I’m getting the horrible treatment from women 34+! Like women 29 and younger have been nothing but respectful even when ending things. It’s the women 34+ who like you one day and are done with you the next and flake or give some generic reason. It’s so weird.5'10" is an adequate size for a cornerback, especially 20-25 years ago, which is when I think you played.
5'10" and a fit 40+ guy doesn't deserve that sort of flakiness. It might be even worse if the female doing the flaking is 35-40.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.