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Andrew Tate...or how to scam young Men

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Target your product towards young men. Society treats them like crap so they are vulnerable. They are also naive due to their age. Present yourself in a way that appeals to them: Lambos, Bïtches,
Muscles, Chess, Cigars, Private Jets.

1. Talk about "MUH...HARD WORK" so it doesn't look like you are selling a get rich quick scheme.

2. Sell a get rich quick scheme. Tell them they can set up an online business which will make thousands of bucks within a week or two.

3. Fill the actual course with a bunch of worthless bull**** like FBA because it's low effort. But don't even do it yourself but employ a bunch of unknown folks claiming they are millionaires.

4. Set up a pyramid system like affiliate program to get massive exposure.

5. Speak some truth like how feminism doesn't give a **** about men and the system is completely unfair.

6. Act is if you are only selling a limited amount of accounts to your program. (In one of his videos Tate himself explains that this is a manipulation strategy)

7. If criticism arises this is what you do:

- If they say it doesn't work -> You are a lazy loser...Go kill yourself!
- If they say it's too expensive -> It will help you to become a trillionaire. It's actually too cheap
 

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OP almost every product in modern society has been weaponised via emotional marketing against someone

Tate is no different he's selling hope and is some cases affirmation and theres a que of customers around the block because of the way modern society is structured

Yes most of his "business models" are generic and saturated but the core of what he is preaching is correct

The government does want you poor , modern women will seek the best possible option and pretty much every modern social construct is a scam, and the masses are very stupid

People (especially young men) will listen because they can see the prescribed way of thinking isn't working

People like Tate work because the societal system is so deeply corrupted and broken.
 

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Like everything we should extract what is valuable from Tate.

1. The current model of society does enslave most humans.

2. Modern schooling is somewhat useless... I went to college for 4 years and learned nothing of value for my current career. I went because that’s what we are told will make you successful.

3. Men need to become the best version of themselves and being a man means discipline and doing things when we don’t want.

I can’t fault him for finding a niche among weak young men...I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he was/ is a member of this forum.... a lot of his advice can be found on this site.
 

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Target your product towards young men. Society treats them like crap so they are vulnerable. They are also naive due to their age. Present yourself in a way that appeals to them: Lambos, Bïtches,
Muscles, Chess, Cigars, Private Jets.

1. Talk about "MUH...HARD WORK" so it doesn't look like you are selling a get rich quick scheme.

2. Sell a get rich quick scheme. Tell them they can set up an online business which will make thousands of bucks within a week or two.

3. Fill the actual course with a bunch of worthless bull**** like FBA because it's low effort. But don't even do it yourself but employ a bunch of unknown folks claiming they are millionaires.

4. Set up a pyramid system like affiliate program to get massive exposure.

5. Speak some truth like how feminism doesn't give a **** about men and the system is completely unfair.

6. Act is if you are only selling a limited amount of accounts to your program. (In one of his videos Tate himself explains that this is a manipulation strategy)

7. If criticism arises this is what you do:

- If they say it doesn't work -> You are a lazy loser...Go kill yourself!
- If they say it's too expensive -> It will help you to become a trillionaire. It's actually too cheap
Affiliate programs are not pyramid schemes
 

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He's a con artist and epitome of "fake it til you make it". He's now saying in interviews he a billionaire.

He's a millionaire for sure, never a billionaire. The kids that eat this stuff up are laughable. He's a scammer and an incredibly charismatic and great orator.

He is facially average with a weak jaw line and insecure over his hairline.

Take what anyone says in life with a pinch of salt, and have the character, moral fortitude, and cerebral grounding to stand on your own two feet in life, and make your own choices and decisions. That is the best advice a dad could give a son. Along with hard work and perseverance.
 

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The fake it till you make it con or technique has been around forever you have to improve your looks wardrobe and fitness to get by plain and simple
 

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I know Andrew personally. He’s an exceptionally smart cookie and is currently developing himself, sort of finding his stride. I predict that well within 10 years he is going to let go of the exaggerated posturing (which is only 15 to 20% of his shtick), and become an incredibly valuable resource for men. The raw materials are already there in abundance. He needs to age into moderation, but not by a lot.
I can tell you he’s well aware of our forum here. I’ll leave it at that.
The man talks more sense than any I’ve ever met, both in-person and on the Internet.
A lot of guys here are critical of him, but I think you would be wise to consider the fact that he’s a perfect example of how personality, character, bearing and clothing (our suit of armor) eclipses negative physical traits. He is extremely non-symmetrical facially, has an extremely weak jawline and an unusually long neck, yet that means absolutely nothing when women are in his presence. He is absolutely magnetic to women because he owns all that and embodies most of the principles taught here at SS.

Just like the incredibly humble author of this post, he long ago stopped playing the game and instead has become the game. He accepts himself so fully that he understands that his physical imperfections disintegrate and count for nothing when people are in his presence or under his influence.

Too many young members here cannot accept the concept of becoming the game, I think largely because the hormones have to settle down and the brain must advance to a certain maturity level in order to be able to perceive and internalize the concept. I wasn’t able to do it until I got into my early 50s. Andrew is an early bloomer but he is still in the final stages of working on bridling the power.

Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater and lose out on the gold that is available to mine from him. In other words, don’t concentrate on the hype, but rather concentrate on the power he projects that removes what are thought of as limiting physical characteristics.

Boldness, confidence and ruthless self-respect will blind most women to those faults that hang up most of us. That is becoming the game.

This is more nonsense to most of you, but pure gold to those who are on the cusp of getting it.
 

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@Atom Smasher
If you had a daughter, how would you feel if she was dating Tate? Would you prefer her being courted by a legit millionaire who treated her with respect or being pumped&dumped by Tate? :rolleyes:

C'mon man, firstly, there's nothing wrong with his physique that he overcomes with his 'magical' presence. He's a fit, tall, good looking guy. Secondly, he's made money in less than legitimate ways and now flashes the cash to attract hoes. What's there to admire about that?
 

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1) Legit millionaire (or a man of modest means) who treated her with respect.

2) His presence isn’t “magical”. It’s logical and predictable because he taps into universally attractive energy.

3) There’s nothing to admire about the ways he seeded his fortune. Just the opposite.

Unfortunately the thrust of what I said has gone right over your head. Because I’m so nice, I’ll reiterate the point of my post:

Boldness, confidence and ruthless self-respect will blind most women to those faults that hang up most of us. That is becoming the game.
 

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I’m Andrew Tate’s favourite poster on here, he centres his game around my teachings.

If anyone wants 50% off my course (Christmas discount) send me a PM. Offer closes December 31st.
 

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The man talks more sense than any I’ve ever met, both in-person and on the Internet.
I do not do much social media and pretty much still live in the early 2000’s.. so my first Tate exposure was hearing his name from other people and some news stories about him. These were very well unflattering and I immediately formed the opinion he must be a tool.

I was on YouTube one evening and watched my first Tate video. I was surprised... his message very refreshing. I watched a few more and completely changed my opinion of him. I had the same views as him on life and dealing with females but he woke me up to how skewed my view of finances were.

Do I think Tate is a billionaire? No... do I think he’s a millionaire... yes. When he explains his net-worth he openly admits it’s some what speculative because a lot is based in the current values of his web business’s.

I personally think men can’t go wrong if they listen to some of his views and apply them to their lives.

Stop wasting time on useless activities ( video games, porn, etc)

Have activities and hobbies that add value to your life.

Be the man... exude confidence and go into everything with the right mindset.

Work some side hustles, build multiple revenue streams. Try escaping the 9-5 and make yourself valuable

Become a networker.. have a guy for everything

Train and build your body dress well and present yourself well.

We could do much worse
 

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I know Andrew personally. He’s an exceptionally smart cookie and is currently developing himself, sort of finding his stride. I predict that well within 10 years he is going to let go of the exaggerated posturing (which is only 15 to 20% of his shtick), and become an incredibly valuable resource for men. The raw materials are already there in abundance. He needs to age into moderation, but not by a lot.
I can tell you he’s well aware of our forum here. I’ll leave it at that.
The man talks more sense than any I’ve ever met, both in-person and on the Internet.
A lot of guys here are critical of him, but I think you would be wise to consider the fact that he’s a perfect example of how personality, character, bearing and clothing (our suit of armor) eclipses negative physical traits. He is extremely non-symmetrical facially, has an extremely weak jawline and an unusually long neck, yet that means absolutely nothing when women are in his presence. He is absolutely magnetic to women because he owns all that and embodies most of the principles taught here at SS.

Just like the incredibly humble author of this post, he long ago stopped playing the game and instead has become the game. He accepts himself so fully that he understands that his physical imperfections disintegrate and count for nothing when people are in his presence or under his influence.

Too many young members here cannot accept the concept of becoming the game, I think largely because the hormones have to settle down and the brain must advance to a certain maturity level in order to be able to perceive and internalize the concept. I wasn’t able to do it until I got into my early 50s. Andrew is an early bloomer but he is still in the final stages of working on bridling the power.

Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater and lose out on the gold that is available to mine from him. In other words, don’t concentrate on the hype, but rather concentrate on the power he projects that removes what are thought of as limiting physical characteristics.

Boldness, confidence and ruthless self-respect will blind most women to those faults that hang up most of us. That is becoming the game.

This is more nonsense to most of you, but pure gold to those who are on the cusp of getting it.
I appreciate the input from someone who knows him personally.

Becoming the game sounds like another way of saying inner game; it sounds like a matter of self-respect and happiness.
 

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I know Andrew personally.
I can tell you he’s well aware of our forum here.
How do you know him? He´s a member here isnt he? Its so cool that you know him, I would love to have a beer with him.
 

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What is valuable from the Tate brothers is not so much the message but the fact that it's not only acceptable but needed to face the BS you're fed as a man.

If a drug addict manage to convince you to clean up your life, it's still a valuable contribution to improvement.

The fact that he got censored from the media mob, it's more than enough for me to grant him my attention.
 

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How do you know him? He´s a member here isnt he? Its so cool that you know him, I would love to have a beer with him.
I don’t have a way of saying how I know him without compromising privacy, both mine and his.
I don’t think he’s a member here, but he has visited.
 

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It isn't just Tate. Everyone is targeting disenfranchised young men because they know these men are dumb enough to throw money at motivational speakers.

Even women are now starting to get into the manosphere by speaking out against feminism. Do they actually disagree with feminism? Do they actually sympathize with the plight of young men?

NOPE. They just know that if they say things that men want to hear then these men will either send them money, buy their courses, or at least watch their monetized content.

And guys are gullible enough to think "wow, this women GETS it. She cares about the plight of men."
 

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She won that round, no doubt.

I wonder however what people would say if it were men to burn women mentioning loose pvssies/fat asses/ flat chests during online argues.

It seems small d1ck jokes from women are ok but wonder if the other way would be too.
For sure, it definitely wouldn’t. And it’s odd because if you insult a woman in that way you are immediately a beta just by social norm
 
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