"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Miami vs NYC, interesting take.

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In the past posted about both cities but the post here puts them head to head in terms of game, maybe other guys who have also lived in or gamed in both cities could offer their take?

 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I did learn more about game in both cities from that article. I have no direct experience with the mating environments in either city.

I would rather live in Miami than New York City but have no interest in living in either city.

I like the idea of weaker competition in New York City due to too many dorky White men with weak social skills.
 

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I have never been to Miami but I've always wanted to go. I have lived in NYC pretty much my whole life.

I agree with just about everything he says about NY, although I'm surprised NY won in the end because I thought the point about the girls being way better in Florida would be the deciding factor.

However it seems like it came down to Miami having a poor nightlife and tough dudes to compete against. I've heard from a friend who used to live in Florida that if you don't have a six pack the girls aren't interested.
 

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I have never been to Miami but I've always wanted to go. I have lived in NYC pretty much my whole life.

I agree with just about everything he says about NY, although I'm surprised NY won in the end because I thought the point about the girls being way better in Florida would be the deciding factor.

However it seems like it came down to Miami having a poor nightlife and tough dudes to compete against. I've heard from a friend who used to live in Florida that if you don't have a six pack the girls aren't interested.
One difference I have noticed between Miami and NYC is that despite Miami being a much tougher market, dudes here are a lot more chill. I think it could be that natural alphas are just that way compared to the countless pretend alphas that predominate in NYC.

The reason I think Miami is so chill is because the guys down here aren't Ivy League or former nerd types that are sniffing money for the first time. What I think happens in cities like NYC and San Fran is that you have a bunch of former nerds that get money for the first time and then they approach every interaction with a chip on their shoulder. I lost count of the amount of time some office geek in Manhattan claimed to be a black belt in BJJ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .

Oh and Long Island deserves special attention here, pretend Alpha capital of America. Background is all a bunch of spineless Italian and Irish descendants who ran from the five boroughs because things got diverse. Now? They call themselves Strong Island lol.

These people are a pain to work with and on edge, always trying to get under someone's skin and hype up who they were in high school. You don't get too much of that in Miami, here you get way more cool Chads and genuinely cool guys. It makes social interactions so much easier compared to NYC where every other chubby drunk wants to convince you they fought in the UFC.
 

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@Jesse Pinkman — Former nerds likely don’t go to Miami because Miami isn’t a big hub of elite corporate HQs. That also helps keep the Ivy Leaguers away too. There is overlap between Ivy Leaguers & nerds. Miami area college grads would be more likely to be state university grads like yourself.

Former nerds that get money do have a chip on their shoulder based on not getting much or much good vagina in high school & college.

I get what you’re saying about the Long Island & New Jersey types. Phoenix (especially Scottsdale) at night is notorious for similar attitudes as Long Islanders. The main difference is that Phoenix, those guys are typically not Italian-American.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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@Jesse Pinkman — Former nerds likely don’t go to Miami because Miami isn’t a big hub of elite corporate HQs. That also helps keep the Ivy Leaguers away too. There is overlap between Ivy Leaguers & nerds. Miami area college grads would be more likely to be state university grads like yourself.

Former nerds that get money do have a chip on their shoulder based on not getting much or much good vagina in high school & college.

I get what you’re saying about the Long Island & New Jersey types. Phoenix (especially Scottsdale) at night is notorious for similar attitudes as Long Islanders. The main difference is that Phoenix, those guys are typically not Italian-American.
It might be changing now and you bring up a good point, the guido trash of the east coast do resemble the trash in Arizona.

Funny stuff, I watched The Great Gatsby today with DiCaprio starring at Gatsby. It brought to my conscience just how much New Yorkers are obsessed with class.
 

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Never forget makeup artist KokoBeaute, a woman who grew up in Croatia and has lived in both NYC and Miami.


Oh and trying to parade for BLM or whatever social justice nonsense while secretly posting racist youtube comments lol.
I would guess there's less of that shiit in Miami.
 

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I know the Koko type all too well around South Beach man. The issue with Miami is the amount of fakeness it attracts so when it attracts New Yorkers, it attracts the worst kinds.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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