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The Importance of Social Circles

Epicwinguy

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I am a former incel who has been slacking on his gym routine lately and having some money troubles. I've tried going out solo in the past and have never been able to swagga into a club, spit game at a random woman, and have her come home with me.

Anyways I’ve been hanging out with some people a bar I frequent since January and my life has changed. Twice I’ve had girls take me back to their place. I didn’t need game or a 6% body fat, I just hang out with some people and if anything it’s the girls who game me.

So if a guy wants an easy way to get laid, he just needs to get accepted into a social circle. Then either girls will hit on you or your friends will tell you what girl is dtf.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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I am a former incel who has been slacking on his gym routine lately and having some money troubles. I've tried going out solo in the past and have never been able to swagga into a club, spit game at a random woman, and have her come home with me.

Anyways I’ve been hanging out with some people a bar I frequent since January and my life has changed. Twice I’ve had girls take me back to their place. I didn’t need game or a 6% body fat, I just hang out with some people and if anything it’s the girls who game me.

So if a guy wants an easy way to get laid, he just needs to get accepted into a social circle. Then either girls will hit on you or your friends will tell you what girl is dtf.
Great post. I'm sure at least 1 person is about to disagree with something you said.
 
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Social circles are not something you can just create and are they worth the time and energy? I think of them like a farmer and the other methods as a steppe hunter.
 

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Can you describe these type of people? Are they good looking, high value, well dressed, ect?
Not really any of those. They don’t really dhv. A few have high paying jobs but they don’t talk about it unless you ask. We hang out at a nerdy themed bar with a big arcade. More like an arcade with a bar. Most of us are fat (I’m not but not ripped or skinny either.) And only one dresses to impress but he doesn’t seem interested in scoring hookups. It’s just a chill group and for some reason girls go there when they’re horny.

Another thing…the girls are pretty, long haired and smell nice but typically chubby. I like chubby girls so that’s ok with me but according to red pill guys that’s not alpha but I don’t really care.
 

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I am a former incel who has been slacking on his gym routine lately and having some money troubles. I've tried going out solo in the past and have never been able to swagga into a club, spit game at a random woman, and have her come home with me.

Anyways I’ve been hanging out with some people a bar I frequent since January and my life has changed. Twice I’ve had girls take me back to their place. I didn’t need game or a 6% body fat, I just hang out with some people and if anything it’s the girls who game me.

So if a guy wants an easy way to get laid, he just needs to get accepted into a social circle. Then either girls will hit on you or your friends will tell you what girl is dtf.
Doing the whole swipe app thing is difficult. Doing the whole approaching of strangers thing is difficult. If you can put together a social circle, it can be rewarding. I've known men who have done well in social circle. These men have rarely been alone based almost solely on the strength of their social circles. Social circle game is not overrated for finding longer term girlfriends.
 

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Doing the whole swipe app thing is difficult. Doing the whole approaching of strangers thing is difficult. If you can put together a social circle, it can be rewarding. I've known men who have done well in social circle. These men have rarely been alone based almost solely on the strength of their social circles. Social circle game is not overrated for finding longer term girlfriends.
Or hookups lol
 

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Not really any of those. They don’t really dhv. A few have high paying jobs but they don’t talk about it unless you ask. We hang out at a nerdy themed bar with a big arcade. More like an arcade with a bar. Most of us are fat (I’m not but not ripped or skinny either.) And only one dresses to impress but he doesn’t seem interested in scoring hookups. It’s just a chill group and for some reason girls go there when they’re horny.

Another thing…the girls are pretty, long haired and smell nice but typically chubby. I like chubby girls so that’s ok with me but according to red pill guys that’s not alpha but I don’t really care.
bro you like that you like
 

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No. Social circle is not that good for shorter term sex like that. That's a way to piss off social circles.
I wasn’t talking about girls in the social circle. When you’re having fun with your friends and doing **** that looks fun, and a horny girl sees it? You’re on her menu for the night.
 

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I wasn’t talking about girls in the social circle. When you’re having fun with your friends and doing **** that looks fun, and a horny girl sees it? You’re on her menu for the night.
I see what you're saying now. That makes sense. Lone wolf night game is not easy. Non-bar approaching is more suited to the lone wolf style, which is why I have focused upon that.

When I did bar approaching solo prior to the pandemic, not one woman ever commented about it or asked me about it.

My game style and preferences are better suited to non-bar approaching. It took me about 10-12 years to figure that out, as I spent the first 10-12 years of sexual maturity focused upon college residential parties (before age 21) and then bars in my early to mid-20s. It wasn't until my late 20s when I re-invented myself as a guy who mostly did non-bar approaching. Also, the times I used dating websites and apps during that time really sucked big time.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

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I see what you're saying now. That makes sense. Lone wolf night game is not easy. Non-bar approaching is more suited to the lone wolf style, which is why I have focused upon that.

When I did bar approaching solo prior to the pandemic, not one woman ever commented about it or asked me about it.

My game style and preferences are better suited to non-bar approaching. It took me about 10-12 years to figure that out, as I spent the first 10-12 years of sexual maturity focused upon college residential parties (before age 21) and then bars in my early to mid-20s. It wasn't until my late 20s when I re-invented myself as a guy who mostly did non-bar approaching. Also, the times I used dating websites and apps during that time really sucked big time.
Where do you go for your non bar approaches? I prefer bars and clubs because people are just there to have fun and loosen up. And if a girl is looking to get laid (the kinds of girls I’m pulling) she will go to a bar or club.
 

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Where do you go for your non bar approaches? I prefer bars and clubs because people are just there to have fun and loosen up. And if a girl is looking to get laid (the kinds of girls I’m pulling) she will go to a bar or club.
I've done mostly every non-bar venue you can do.

My favorites are grocery stores and walking/hiking paths. That's where I've gotten the most dates. Grocery store approaching has been ruined by indoor masking but there are signs in some areas that indoor masking is subsiding. Still, 2 years of masking has greatly affected the willingness for women to talk to a stranger indoors. I still think outdoor approaching is the best approaching option for the time being.

I did some mall approaching prior to the pandemic and found it to be the most difficult venue for me. Bookstores weren't much better.

I did a fair amount of approaching at fitness classes and some on the general gym floor.

Since I've been more motivated by sex frequency than sex variety, I tend to look more for longer term sex, which takes the form of relationships. I'm also more introverted and frequent relocations earlier in life were absolutely devastating to my abilities to ever build a social circle capable of arranging dates.
 

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I am a former incel who has been slacking on his gym routine lately and having some money troubles. I've tried going out solo in the past and have never been able to swagga into a club, spit game at a random woman, and have her come home with me.

Anyways I’ve been hanging out with some people a bar I frequent since January and my life has changed. Twice I’ve had girls take me back to their place. I didn’t need game or a 6% body fat, I just hang out with some people and if anything it’s the girls who game me.

So if a guy wants an easy way to get laid, he just needs to get accepted into a social circle. Then either girls will hit on you or your friends will tell you what girl is dtf.
To be honest I find it hard to believe that, are you the only one who get girls , or your friends get girls too , if you are the only one you might be really over average otherwise with the unlimited options women have I cant see why they would hookup with average guy, women usually hookup with sexy handsome men or men who are really good in bed, and you say you are non of these.
 

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To be honest I find it hard to believe that, are you the only one who get girls , or your friends get girls too , if you are the only one you might be really over average otherwise with the unlimited options women have I cant see why they would hookup with average guy, women usually hookup with sexy handsome men or men who are really good in bed, and you say you are non of these.
I guess I am slightly above average, but these women are horny and tipsy. I will admit my one friend is charismatic and will push girls off on me if he doesn’t like them lol
 

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@Hamurabimbi I think it was you that said your social circle consists of guys that are incels, or not good at game, and not obviously dhv... I'd like your opinion on this topic.
Although most aren’t romantically successful (though a few are married), some are socially adept. I’ve found opportunities in that. An example:
A couple of my friends became acquainted with a gamer girl (who lived with her BF). She hosted a bi-monthly game night at her place. And I, as part of my friends group, was invited as well. We’d have pizza, beer, socialize, game... One time she brought one of her female friends to the game night. A few days after that, the hostess called me up & told me her friend thought I was ‘cute’ and ‘was it alright if she gave her my number?’
They’re (well, some of them) are more social than I am, and I can join in.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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