Indirect Sexual Attempt

[SargeMaximus]

Pics below

 

[SargeMaximus]

I think this is better. After her response of flexible, if you're looking to qualify her, you could have said "I'll be the judge of that" instead of "You've got potential".

You don’t think that’s too hard? I’ve tried that before and girls auto reject as a defense

 

[SargeMaximus]

I'd use an emoji after wards to lighten it. Maybe it just depends on the context. This chick seems pretty easy going.

True she does. The thing that’s tough now is how to actually turn her into a sexual partner. When things aren’t directly stated I feel very far from them. Like it has to be stated verbally or it’s not real, hence why I do so well with direct game. Indirect game feels like it’s all fake and not real. I don’t know if that makes sense but sooner or later I’m sure I’ll just go direct and then lose her because it’ll be a huge shift from how I was here.
How do regular guys do it? Just stay indirect forever and magically the d goes in the p? I honestly don’t get how most guys have sex if they can’t be direct. To me it would never happen

 

[SargeMaximus]

If you mean while in person, I'd think this is just a perspective issue. If she allows you to come over, look at that as being direct in the sense that if she wasn't interested she'd just ghost.


I understand you reasoning. You don't feel confident in reading the situation with indirect, so you don't want to make a fool of yourself by escalating too quick. Being direct tells you where she stands, so it takes the uncertainty away.

Just have to slowly turn up the heat from indirect to direct. Like while talking rest your hand on her thigh after some comfort between the two of you has set it. Then a little while later start rubbing her thigh slowly. While still keeping the conversation and vibe between you going. Then move your hand closer to her pusssy, then start rubbing it and kissing her. I was in a scenario where I was doing what I described here. Only, I didn't get escalate to rubbing her pusssy. I should have though, because she eventually seen that I was timid, and took it upon herself to escalate and jump onto my lap. Which escalated to kissing, then sex. This is like having to fall down to learn how to ride a bike.


I've come to terms that I'll possibly make a fool of myself by not reading the situation right. Hell, I did on the only date I got from cold approaching the 21 year old. I tried kissing her and got rejected and the next date cancelled. Although, with the fwb, she said "I gave you an opening and you took it" in regards to escalating to sex. I didn't realize I took the opening that she gave. It was just natural. Win some, lose some.

Damn that slow way is too cringe for me. Yeah I’d rather know and then I can either fvck or move onto the next girl

 

[SargeMaximus]

Maybe all that matters is if it's too cringe for the female. @catsmeow how would you feel about this scenario?

I don’t want cats meows advice.

 

[SargeMaximus]

This was for my benefit on my example.

Then can you pm her next time? I don’t like how my threads get derailed so much. Also, imo, women are the last ones to take pua advice from

 

[Sebastian0001]

If you mean while in person, I'd think this is just a perspective issue. If she allows you to come over, look at that as being direct in the sense that if she wasn't interested she'd just ghost.


I understand you reasoning. You don't feel confident in reading the situation with indirect, so you don't want to make a fool of yourself by escalating too quick. Being direct tells you where she stands, so it takes the uncertainty away.

Just have to slowly turn up the heat from indirect to direct. Like while talking rest your hand on her thigh after some comfort between the two of you has set it. Then a little while later start rubbing her thigh slowly. While still keeping the conversation and vibe between you going. Then move your hand closer to her pusssy, then start rubbing it and kissing her. I was in a scenario where I was doing what I described here. Only, I didn't get escalate to rubbing her pusssy. I should have though, because she eventually seen that I was timid, and took it upon herself to escalate and jump onto my lap. Which escalated to kissing, then sex. This is like having to fall down to learn how to ride a bike.


I've come to terms that I'll possibly make a fool of myself by not reading the situation right. Hell, I did on the only date I got from cold approaching the 21 year old. I tried kissing her and got rejected and the next date cancelled. Although, with the fwb, she said "I gave you an opening and you took it" in regards to escalating to sex. I didn't realize I took the opening that she gave. It was just natural. Win some, lose some.

where exactly is this all happening? If ur over at her apartment, yes u can do that. But what if ur at a club or dinner or something? You can't be rubbing her ***** in such a setting. Also, rubbing her ***** is a HUGE step to take. I don't think you can go from hand on thigh to that. I think there has to be a passionate kiss first and even then she might not be ready for ur hands to go there that fast. It of course depends on the type of woman (and her interest level) because some will are ready for sex asap and some take a while to be comfortable with the guy.

 

[Sebastian0001]

Then can you pm her next time? I don’t like how my threads get derailed so much. Also, imo, women are the last ones to take pua advice from

Women are not generally good for advice I fully agree, but sometimes they can share specific things that have worked on them and that can be good.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I don’t go to bars so the point is moot. But you regular guys put so many barriers to sex. No wonder mystery said it takes 6 hours of in person time before you get laid. My way is faster

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Most "advice" from girls is dissapointing but I admit there are exceptions. You might find the occasional useful thing here and there if you read everything they blab.

Convo is better, but there will always be room for improvement. Keep it up.

 

[Sebastian0001]

I don’t go to bars so the point is moot. But you regular guys put so many barriers to sex. No wonder mystery said it takes 6 hours of in person time before you get laid. My way is faster

what is your way? All I have seen, in case I missed it, is that you want to be direct and not indirect? What does that mean? You just straight up ask for sex?

 

[SargeMaximus]

what is your way? All I have seen, in case I missed it, is that you want to be direct and not indirect? What does that mean? You just straight up ask for sex?

I don’t ask for sex, I say I’m looking for a fwb and if she vibes with that I continue

 

[SargeMaximus]

what is your way? All I have seen, in case I missed it, is that you want to be direct and not indirect? What does that mean? You just straight up ask for sex?

Hers an example from last year I found in my pics:

 

[Sebastian0001]

Hers an example from last year I found in my pics:

Interesting, i don't think this would work 95% of the time and would get ghosted. But that is just my opinion and I have struggled quite a bit myself recently so maybe I should be doing the opposite of what I think lol.

How often has it worked for you? This fwb approach? How did u meet this girl?

 

[SargeMaximus]

Interesting, i don't think this would work 95% of the time and would get ghosted. But that is just my opinion and I have struggled quite a bit myself recently so maybe I should be doing the opposite of what I think lol.

How often has it worked for you? This fwb approach? How did u meet this girl?

I met her on pof that’s the initial convo. Yeah it doesn’t work often, but it works for me more than the other ways suggested to me on this site. So you can see why I prefer this method. Get laid sometimes vs. Get laid never. Wonder which I’ll choose?

 

[Velasco]

Interesting, i don't think this would work 95% of the time and would get ghosted. But that is just my opinion

To put this in perspective.

If this DID have a high success rate he wouldn't be on here asking these questions.

Therefore not only is this style, not effective (huge failure rate) but not efficient (fast) as well. Because while this particular example looks "faster" from a micro view (THIS particular set did not take more than 5 messages/5 minutes to make it happen). It is way slower than picking up chicks in real life with a much smoother approach from a macro perspective (his approach to work requires more stars aligned than let's say my indirect->direct approach. The more things need to be in place for something to happen, the less odds of it coming to fruition).

 

[SargeMaximus]

To put this in perspective.

If this DID have a high success rate he wouldn't be on here asking these questions.

Therefore not only is this style, not effective (huge failure rate) but not efficient (fast) as well. Because while this particular example looks "faster" from a micro view (THIS particular set did not take more than 5 messages/5 minutes to make it happen). It is way slower than picking up chicks in real life with a much smoother approach from a macro perspective (his approach to work requires more stars aligned than let's say my indirect->direct approach. The more things needing to be in place for something to happen, the less odds of it coming to fruition).

Compared to the 0% success rate of what you guys advocate. You guys are heavily biased. I’m here to improve my game, not because my game doesn’t work

 

[Velasco]

Compared to the 0% success rate of what you guys advocate. You guys are heavily biased. I’m here to improve my game, not because my game doesn’t work

Mate you are the one struggling here. Dunno what's funny about that tbh

 

[SargeMaximus]

Mate you are the one struggling here. Dunno what's funny about that tbh

I get laid using my method, I don’t get laid using your method. What’s funny is you tell me to do what has been proven to work, yet I’ve never gotten your way to work. Mental gymnastics amuses me.

 

[Sebastian0001]

I get laid using my method, I don’t get laid using your method. What’s funny is you tell me to do what has been proven to work, yet I’ve never gotten your way to work. Mental gymnastics amuses me.

so tell us in the last year, how many times did you get laid using this approach and what was the hotness of the woman 1-10?