How about some god damn evidence?

[Epicwinguy]

There's a lot of talk in the manosphere about maxxing, be it looks or career, but tons of losers who make **** money, have no car and never use the gym do well with women (I have seen it myself.) The idea around here is to never drink, never eat carbs, work a career you hate while convincing yourself you enjoy it until you do, and of course NO FEMALE FRIENDS OR YOUR A BETA ***** BRO!!!!11111



This is my problem with the red pill and similar bull****, that you need to complete this quest to ever get laid. So how about one of you show me some evidence you have accomplished something on this quest and I will try harder.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You don’t have to do anything.

Reality will set in eventually. Only way to have leverage over modern women is to become a top tier guy. They generally don’t give a fvck about average dudes. The internet and social media have globalized the sexual market. If you aren’t competitive women will destroy you.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You need no car, no money and no ceo position to have girls attracted to you as long as you genetics is of a good stock and you dont screw up.

At the same time no amount of wealth, money or status will make them wet if you underperform in height/hair/body proportions which again depends on genetics.

What you can do is work on what allows you to reach your full potential hoping that its good enough to match a certain threeshold.

Wifey marries Larry the banker cause of the life style but she sucks Andy the handsome poolboy cause he makes her wet.

As long as you match a certain looks, any decent home and car are more than enough.

 

[Hal9000]

I'll tell you that looks, money, etc are all a part of it, but women really want a guy that is enjoyable to be around. May sound like a bit of a cop out but a lot of guys are just annoying to be around. Make them laugh, be genuinely enjoyable to be around, put them at ease, etc and you'll be in a much better place if you are at least average in the things many on here obsess about.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

There's a lot of talk in the manosphere about maxxing, be it looks or career, but tons of losers who make **** money, have no car and never use the gym do well with women (I have seen it myself.) The idea around here is to never drink, never eat carbs, work a career you hate while convincing yourself you enjoy it until you do, and of course NO FEMALE FRIENDS OR YOUR A BETA ***** BRO!!!!11111



This is my problem with the red pill and similar bull****, that you need to complete this quest to ever get laid. So how about one of you show me some evidence you have accomplished something on this quest and I will try harder.

Do yourself a favor and stop taking red pill as the dogma/ideology its often presented as. The red pill is best thought of as a philosophy at best, a collection of pontifications at worst. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

 

[Epicwinguy]

Do yourself a favor and stop taking red pill as the dogma/ideology its often presented as. The red pill is best thought of as a philosophy at best, a collection of pontifications at worst. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

What? I thought everyone here was on the Red Pill ideology.
Anyways, I think that it’s bull**** already.

 

[Zimbabwe]

The most important thing is Time and Proximity, One thing I learned very quickly was that there are no “laws of attraction”, no guarantees of success in dating, no foolproof methods or strategies for getting someone to date you. Human psychology is too complex to reduce to rules or laws of attraction, if you just happen to be in the right place/time then things just work out and vice versa.

 

[Kotaix]

Once you have a certain amount of money (8+ figures) your looks, age and attitude don't matter at all. You'll attract gold diggers, but no surprise there... and there is plenty of evidence for this.

The problem is that men think that the redpill is some roadmap that will allow them to shortcut their way into women's pants by maxing out their looks and career, but they never actually go out and approach any women or work on their character. They think that the outcome is what matters, not the journey. The opposite is true, shortcuts don't work.

Women are emotional, not logical. If you can make a woman feel good, she will be attracted to you.

 

[corrector]

There's a lot of talk in the manosphere about maxxing, be it looks or career, but tons of losers who make **** money, have no car and never use the gym do well with women (I have seen it myself.) The idea around here is to never drink, never eat carbs, work a career you hate while convincing yourself you enjoy it until you do, and of course NO FEMALE FRIENDS OR YOUR A BETA ***** BRO!!!!11111



This is my problem with the red pill and similar bull****, that you need to complete this quest to ever get laid. So how about one of you show me some evidence you have accomplished something on this quest and I will try harder.

Yout loser friends are chads.

 

[Kotaix]

What? I thought everyone here was on the Red Pill ideology.
Anyways, I think that it’s bull**** already.

Redpill isn't an ideology. It's just being aware of the nature of women and reality, accepting it, and seeing the red flags so you can avoid sh!tty/dangerous women.

But this doesn't stop redpill "gurus" from grifting off the idea and selling snake oil to gullible guys who think shortcuts work.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don’t know if this is ‘evidence’. But I’ll throw my 2 cents in from life observation. Looks is all one needs. Everything else is the cherry on top. And, I agree with Zimbabwe.

With that being said; Maxxing (gym-, money- etc) is valuable, if you enjoy it. It’s good for you and will help with girls on the margins.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

What? I thought everyone here was on the Red Pill ideology.
Anyways, I think that it’s bull**** already.

I’m kinda Red/Black myself.

 

[2Rocky]

 

[Mike32ct]

There's a lot of talk in the manosphere about maxxing, be it looks or career, but tons of losers who make **** money, have no car and never use the gym do well with women (I have seen it myself.) The idea around here is to never drink, never eat carbs, work a career you hate while convincing yourself you enjoy it until you do, and of course NO FEMALE FRIENDS OR YOUR A BETA ***** BRO!!!!11111



This is my problem with the red pill and similar bull****, that you need to complete this quest to ever get laid. So how about one of you show me some evidence you have accomplished something on this quest and I will try harder.

I have no direct personal (ie real life) knowledge of a guy that has “ascended.”

In real life, I generally know guys that were always good with women; guys that were always mediocre with women; and guys that always struggled with women. Or guys that were once good or mediocre with women but “descended” due to age, hair loss, weight gain, or other factors.

Guys that ascended likely exist. I just don’t personally have that “friend Steve who maxxed his way from hopelesscel to super stud lol.”