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@Pan87 , you see men and women are more or less very similar .

for guys is very important the attention , as it is for women

a guy will trade anytime sex for attention

that is why things like onlyfans works
Precisely. The product is not so much the porn, it's her ATTENTION.

Also, we can't forget about the "availability" factor as well. Guys are far more likely to sub to a girl from their state/hometown than they are a random girl. I've seen girls locally who gained a sizable following just by posting on their personal FB/IG. If the guy thinks he even has a %0.01 chance of sleeping with the girl, that's often all he needs to whip out his credit card.
 

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Precisely. The product is not so much the porn, it's her ATTENTION.

Also, we can't forget about the "availability" factor as well. Guys are far more likely to sub to a girl from their state/hometown than they are a random girl. I've seen girls locally who gained a sizable following just by posting on their personal FB/IG. If the guy thinks he even has a %0.01 chance of sleeping with the girl, that's often all he needs to whip out his credit card.
the opposite happens , when a girl ( that wants A relationship ) will go with the guy from her country / town etc instead of the random guy , even if she likes the random guy more

happened to me once during a conference , an italian American woman from New York went to the room of a guy from New York , even though it was quite clear that she liked me more

I guess that all women want that sex is not just sex , unless they are in the rebound period

this is another pua myth that between 2 guys with equal smv , the girl will choose the exotic guy . In most cases women will go for the gUy with whom she has the higher chance of progressing to a relationship
 

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@Pan87 , you see men and women are more or less very similar .

for guys is very important the attention , as it is for women

a guy will trade anytime sex for attention

that is why things like onlyfans works
In Japan they even pay girls just to chat or cuddle with them I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes common in the west soon. Men these days are so lonely and they desperately want some form of companionship.
 

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Precisely. The product is not so much the porn, it's her ATTENTION.

Also, we can't forget about the "availability" factor as well. Guys are far more likely to sub to a girl from their state/hometown than they are a random girl. I've seen girls locally who gained a sizable following just by posting on their personal FB/IG. If the guy thinks he even has a %0.01 chance of sleeping with the girl, that's often all he needs to whip out his credit card.
So this is proof of the beta-ization of men or adopting and accepting feminist agenda/propaganda.

the hypergamous man would want sex not attention.
 

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The idea is that the chick responds to you, and thus you're not just looking at porn - you're interacting with the porn. It's more akin to a virtual strip club. Look, it's so OVER for so many men that this is the closest they are going to get to a normal poon experience.
Why not go to a strip club then where it's more physical and they're up close? Btw I think strip clubs are a waste. I've been to them a couple times but saw nothing big about them. Basically paying dollar bills to watch a naked woman frolic around that you won't bang anyway and isn't even that good looking in the first place. I'm amazed though at how many regular guys go to strip clubs. I mean not old men and guys who are not obese. I see not point of a strip club or onlyfans. Paying just to look and not getting any action.
 

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So this is proof of the beta-ization of men or adopting and accepting feminist agenda/propaganda.

the hypergamous man would want sex not attention.
I don't think it's so much that men don't WANT sex, it's that they're settling for anything they can get. Trust me, I read the OF messages sometimes, and they're definitely shooting their shot and trying to "meet up".

I'm in conflict with this whole situation because as a man who has been red pilled for over a decade, a part of me wants to see men grow a pair and stop acting like beta pvssies.. meanwhile, I am making $$$ off these same men and if they stopped existing I would lose a decent $x,xxx/monthly income.

But I think you're right. These men aren't going away and if anything, it's only going to get worse.

But if you look at the bright side, that just leaves more women for men like us who "truly get it".
 

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In Japan they even pay girls just to chat or cuddle with them I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes common in the west soon. Men these days are so lonely and they desperately want some form of companionship.
There is already professional "cuddlers" There are news stories on it. you pay for a person man or woman to cuddle with you. Granted this was before Covid but some hot chicks do it and you can get certified.

I can "kind of see this though." If you're not an obese guy pay one of these cuddlers and find a hot one and try and game them. Esepcially if you're ripped. After cuddling for a half hour maybe she will be all wet.
 

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There is already professional "cuddlers" There are news stories on it. you pay for a person man or woman to cuddle with you. Granted this was before Covid but some hot chicks do it and you can get certified.

I can "kind of see this though." If you're not an obese guy pay one of these cuddlers and find a hot one and try and game them. Esepcially if you're ripped. After cuddling for a half hour maybe she will be all wet.
The issue i have with this is that the whole interaction feels very transactional, i tried out an Escort once and the entire experience felt way too artificial.

You can't put a price on genuine desire, paying for it is going to make you feel hollow and empty afterwards.
 

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The issue i have with this is that the whole interaction feels very transactional, i tried out an Escort once and the entire experience felt way too artificial.

You can't put a price on genuine desire, paying for it is going to make you feel hollow and empty afterwards.
some things can not be bought
 

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Back in the day, long before OF, there were phone sex lines. Even then, a certain percentage of guys would call the phone girls just to chat. They wouldn’t necessarily want to talk about sex or rub one out. They just wanted a chick to give them ATTENTION and talk to them (and most importantly listen to them).

Or some lonely guys will heavily tip a cute bartender chick just for some conversation and attention.

It’s all kind of the same thing. Certain guys pay for attention. It should be no shock to anyone.
 

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This is a really good video that I cam across today on YouTube, It highlights why Onlyfans was created and how it has managed to thrive in our broken society. The pandemic has accelerated the loneliness epidemic among men. 1/4 will never find a partner in their entire lives and 51% men aged 18-29 are Single.

Things like Onlyfans take advantage of lonely men and turn relationships/affection into a commodity.

I'm going to be tagging the people that need to see this the most
@biggoal
@Genetic Error
@corrector
@MatureDJ
@joesbigship
@Josh Davidson

If 51% of men aged 18-29 are single, who are the 18-29 year-old women dating then?

Or by "Single" do they mean NOT married?

Women at this age are in their prime SMV and even a HB 6 in this age range will have plenty of options
 

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If 51% of men aged 18-29 are single, who are the 18-29 year-old women dating then?

Or by "Single" do they mean NOT married?

Women at this age are in their prime SMV and even a HB 6 in this age range will have plenty of options
Older men, the only demographic with more single women then men is 65+ year olds. Plus a lot of guys date multiple women

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The issue i have with this is that the whole interaction feels very transactional, i tried out an Escort once and the entire experience felt way too artificial.

You can't put a price on genuine desire, paying for it is going to make you feel hollow and empty afterwards.
I agree. But it still better than paying for and using OLD for example. You pay and get what you want. better than writing messages for hours or swiping for hours just to get a couple matches and possibly a date that leads to nothing and money wasted.

Rich single guys use high end escorts. better than spending hours on OLD for trash and cutting to the point.
 

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Life must have been a blessing in the last century.
For women it is. From the "Great Society" taking care of single moms to the simping and easier to earn income than me. Just about any girl can find some fetish to make money off of like the farts in the jar for example to Onlyfans. Even fat women can make money off another guys fetish.

Guys of course don't have simple ways to make money like this. Even a run of the mill HB6 can make an only fans or social media and make some cash if she's out of work or underemployed.
 

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For women it is. From the "Great Society" taking care of single moms to the simping and easier to earn income than me. Just about any girl can find some fetish to make money off of like the farts in the jar for example to Onlyfans. Even fat women can make money off another guys fetish.

Guys of course don't have simple ways to make money like this. Even a run of the mill HB6 can make an only fans or social media and make some cash if she's out of work or underemployed.
Yeah, but that's really no way to live. I'd rather be a man than a woman, because at least I get to control my own happiness. There was a vice documentary about some camwh0re who was making 1.2 million a month but was still lonely. Her only peace of mind was buying and riding horses once a week, do you think it'll get any better after she retires?
It's all so pathetic I can scarcely comprehend it.

I just can't relate to this level of desperation. It's disgusting.
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It's all so pathetic I can scarcely comprehend it.

I just can't relate to this level of desperation. It's disgusting.
I seriously think these "Men" deserve prison time
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but that's really no way to live. I'd rather be a man than a woman, because at least I get to control my own happiness. There was a vice documentary about some camwh0re who was making 1.2 million a month but was still lonely. Her only peace of mind was buying and riding horses once a week, do you think it'll get any better after she retires?
The possible reason is that 90% of women have no Real hobbies. How many girls have you met that stated their "hobbies" are "hanging out with friends" or "travel"?

If they spend their free time selling their body like a piece of meat for horny losers online, how can they ever expect to be happy? No amount of money is worth giving up your dignity.
 

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This is one of many reasons they want to wipe the human race out with viruses and chit cause of these goofys
 
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