How To find Quality Girls to Date

[Zimbabwe]

The best case if you're in the west:

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

2. Focus on places where higher quality women hang out (Example: library vs bar. Volunteer work vs nightclub).

3. Find a niche activity and become a prominent respected figure within it.

4. Discriminate extremely aggressively early on in dating to avoid wasting time on low quality women. The faster you can cycle through prospects, the more likely you'll hit gold eventually.

5. Travel outside the West and regain some sanity there from time to time.

6. Import a woman (but at great risk due to environmental corruption).

7. Leave the West permanently and write it off as a lost cause.

It's not impossible to have success in the West but you have to understand the screwed up circumstances and combat them accordingly.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You probably should delete your escort topic first FYI

 

[corrector]

Interesting. So you are including the land down under as "west"?

 

[Willie Naylor]

Interesting. So you are including the land down under as "west"?

No. He's speaking to all Westerners.

 

[corrector]

You probably should delete your escort topic first FYI

First, He cant delete anything that is in thd mods hands. Second, why should he delete that? He went with one and its part of his past. If he is honest he has to tell any future girl he went with a hor (when things get serious). You cant bury that by deleting a thread cause its who he is now. He is a hormongerer even if its one time. He will carry this to the grave like me now as memories can not be erased.

 

[Black Widow Void]

First, He cant delete anything that is in thd mods hands. Second, why should he delete that? He went with one and its part of his past. If he is honest he has to tell any future girl he went with a hor (when things get serious). You cant bury that by deleting a thread cause its who he is now. He is a hormongerer even if its one time. He will carry this to the grave like me now as memories can not be erased.

If truth be told, I think that Zimbabwe has more guts than me. I've never outright paid a gal, but instead, I've had to sit through meaningless conversations, spent way too much money on drinks/food for the same end result. While his experience may not have been positive (I suspect if I'd done this, mine wouldn't be either) he had the guts to do it and talk openly to men about it.

As to having to tell any future woman about it? C'mon. We "pay" a woman through drinks, food, putting up with their antics (in effort to score) as it is. He simply cut through the red tape. He has nothing to confess to a woman... other than avoiding all the BS rituals that people like myself have to endure.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Interesting. So you are including the land down under as "west"?

Yes of course

You probably should delete your escort topic first FYI

@corrector
It's not something I'm ashamed of, I've always been open with everyone about everything. It's always better to own up to it instead of feeling guilt about it.

When I told conservative traditional women about how i had casual sex in the past i expected them to be turned off but instead they made it their mission to "reform" me. I was also open to women that i was unemployed before, they would just be more adamant in making sure i apply for more roles and go to more interviews.

When i dropped out of university the same thing happened.My Female aquatainces wanted to make sure i got back in and start studying again. I feel like it's their maternal instinct kicking in or something.

 

[Zimbabwe]

If truth be told, I think that Zimbabwe has more guts than me. I've never outright paid a gal, but instead, I've had to sit through meaningless conversations, spent way too much money on drinks/food for the same end result. While his experience may not have been positive (I suspect if I'd done this, mine wouldn't be either) he had the guts to do it and talk openly to men about it.

As to having to tell any future woman about it? C'mon. We "pay" a woman through drinks, food, putting up with their antics (in effort to score) as it is. He simply cut through the red tape. He has nothing to confess to a woman... other than avoiding all the BS rituals that people like myself have to endure.

In my opinion it's the way you confess, if you tell her it and act really guilty. Of course she will judge you.

Instead I plan to just tell her normally and admit it was a good learning experience, if she is going to judge me on it or use it against me well that's a great way to filter out a narcissist.

 

[Plinco]

The best case if you're in the west:

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

2. Focus on places where higher quality women hang out (Example: library vs bar. Volunteer work vs nightclub).

3. Find a niche activity and become a prominent respected figure within it.

4. Discriminate extremely aggressively early on in dating to avoid wasting time on low quality women. The faster you can cycle through prospects, the more likely you'll hit gold eventually.

5. Travel outside the West and regain some sanity there from time to time.

6. Import a woman (but at great risk due to environmental corruption).

7. Leave the West permanently and write it off as a lost cause.

It's not impossible to have success in the West but you have to understand the screwed up circumstances and combat them accordingly.

I'm going to be honest with you, finding a 'good' woman is not something that I've been very good at doing. But keep in mind that female nature is female nature and that doesn't change across borders or different generations. Also, to some degree you can educate a woman (or anyone else) to use their heads in more appropriate ways by conditioning, i.e. punish and reward behaviors, use subtly, etc. I can tell you from my personal experiences that I've been able to 'move the needle' when it comes to teaching someone to change their thoughts and behaviors, this includes my LTR's. The girl has to really like you for you to be able to do this though.

In your case, you can try church youth group. I would do college campuses (best place imo in general), or volunteer work. Your third suggestion would be best in the long term.

Traveling outside of the west would be a good experience for you. I've spent some time in Russia and traveled around the country. I think the value of non-western women are overstated, but they are generally better. Taking a wife from another culture, or going to live in another country is a very personal decision; I don't think it's for most people. Personally I would rather live here in the United States, but if things really collapsed hard here, and Russia had some prospects for getting their act together, I would consider moving there. Compared to the United States, Russia is not an easy place to live.

 

[bat soup]

The best case if you're in the west:

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

You mean a pub? Or do you mean Guatemala, where people line up to give 10% of their income away to celebrity preachers?

 

[Zimbabwe]

I'm going to be honest with you, finding a 'good' woman is not something that I've been very good at doing. But keep in mind that female nature is female nature and that doesn't change across borders or different generations. Also, to some degree you can educate a woman (or anyone else) to use their heads in more appropriate ways by conditioning, i.e. punish and reward behaviors, use subtly, etc. I can tell you from my personal experiences that I've been able to 'move the needle' when it comes to teaching someone to change their thoughts and behaviors, this includes my LTR's. The girl has to really like you for you to be able to do this though.

In your case, you can try church youth group. I would do college campuses (best place imo in general), or volunteer work. Your third suggestion would be best in the long term.

Traveling outside of the west would be a good experience for you. I've spent some time in Russia and traveled around the country. I think the value of non-western women are overstated, but they are generally better. Taking a wife from another culture, or going to live in another country is a very personal decision; I don't think it's for most people. Personally I would rather live here in the United States, but if things really collapsed hard here, and Russia had some prospects for getting their act together, I would consider moving there. Compared to the United States, Russia is not an easy place to live.

Russian Women are the most overrated, lot of boomers hype them up as being feminine,blonde and traditional but in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. Lot of them come from broken homes and the younger generation has no morals or tradition. The only reason guys think they are attractive is because most of them are slim while western women are land whales.

I've done a lot of travelling, foreign women are better but I personally wouldn't move to a country just for it's women.

You mean a pub? Or do you mean Guatemala, where people line up to give 10% of their income away to celebrity preachers?

Lot of guys claim they met their wives through church so i assume it must be working for them. My local church is all 50 year olds so i wouldn't know.

 

[bat soup]

Lot of guys claim they met their wives through church so i assume it must be working for them. My local church is all 50 year olds so i wouldn't know.

I think looking for someone with similar values to yourself would be a good place to start. For me, I like adventure and travel. I don´t people that are excessively materialistic or vain, so that rules out the Instagram attention hos and gold diggers. I don´t particularly care for religion - I think actually a lot of people are just pretending to be devout and hiding behind a religious appearance to try to make themselves look good anyway.

I knew a young, hot girl from Costa Rica that wanted to invite me to her church and she turned out to be a liar, a narcissist and a psychopath.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

First, He cant delete anything that is in thd mods hands. Second, why should he delete that? He went with one and its part of his past. If he is honest he has to tell any future girl he went with a hor (when things get serious). You cant bury that by deleting a thread cause its who he is now. He is a hormongerer even if its one time. He will carry this to the grave like me now as memories can not be erased.

Yeah but it doesn’t look good for this topic. That’s like a guy giving financial advice after declaring bankruptcy,

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

If truth be told, I think that Zimbabwe has more guts than me. I've never outright paid a gal, but instead, I've had to sit through meaningless conversations, spent way too much money on drinks/food for the same end result. While his experience may not have been positive (I suspect if I'd done this, mine wouldn't be either) he had the guts to do it and talk openly to men about it.

As to having to tell any future woman about it? C'mon. We "pay" a woman through drinks, food, putting up with their antics (in effort to score) as it is. He simply cut through the red tape. He has nothing to confess to a woman... other than avoiding all the BS rituals that people like myself have to endure.

He can do as he pleases, but if he had the capability of finding a quality girl he wouldn’t need to buy an escort in the first place. If he’s trying to date Aussie women I feel his pain because they are a pain the arse to deal with.

 

[SW15]

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

2. Focus on places where higher quality women hang out (Example: library vs bar. Volunteer work vs nightclub).

Religious participation among those born after 1980 isn't all that impressive. You now have at least a generation and a half of low young adult religious participation. I first saw this trend coming up when I was in college in the early to mid-2000s. I was on the earlier wave of this and the early wave of this trend is turning 40 or pushing 40.

I believe that the way in which you meet a woman can impact how the relationship progresses. The bottom of the barrel is swipe apps. Bars are above that, as are all forms of in-person approaching. Bars are primarily good for finding one night stands and casual sex. If you focus more time on non-bar settings, you have a better chance of finding an extended relationship (1 year+). You can meet awful women in non-bar settings too. It can happen at the gym, mall, grocery store, or park/outdoors. It's less likely though.

5. Travel outside the West and regain some sanity there from time to time.

6. Import a woman (but at great risk due to environmental corruption).

7. Leave the West permanently and write it off as a lost cause.

Leaving the West is the best idea. It's difficult to implement and always has been. For every Western man that finds his way to Eastern Europe, Latin America, or Asia, at least 20 men explore the option and realize that they don't have the capacity to make it happen. The most difficult step in that is getting work authorization in those non-Western countries.

If truth be told, I think that Zimbabwe has more guts than me. I've never outright paid a gal, but instead, I've had to sit through meaningless conversations, spent way too much money on drinks/food for the same end result. While his experience may not have been positive (I suspect if I'd done this, mine wouldn't be either) he had the guts to do it and talk openly to men about it....

Every man here has sat through meaningless conversation and spent too much money on food or drinks in order to get laid. Also worth mentioning is how every man has sat through meaningless conversation and spent too much money on food or drinks and failed to get laid.

As to having to tell any future woman about it? C'mon. We "pay" a woman through drinks, food, putting up with their antics (in effort to score) as it is. He simply cut through the red tape. He has nothing to confess to a woman... other than avoiding all the BS rituals that people like myself have to endure.

He won't need to say anything about it.

If he’s trying to date Aussie women I feel his pain because they are a pain the arse to deal with.

Yes, dealing with Australian women in a royal pain.

 

[Plinco]

Russian Women are the most overrated, lot of boomers hype them up as being feminine,blonde and traditional but in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. Lot of them come from broken homes and the younger generation has no morals or tradition. The only reason guys think they are attractive is because most of them are slim while western women are land whales.

Correct. Russian women are also some of the biggest gold digging wh0res I've seen. On the other hand they are also the easiest to see right though of, and the easiest to get them to laugh or emotional. It's like they are less socially intelligent or something, I don't know.

They do take better care of their appearance, I'll give them that.

 

[Alvafe]

The best case if you're in the west:

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

2. Focus on places where higher quality women hang out (Example: library vs bar. Volunteer work vs nightclub).

3. Find a niche activity and become a prominent respected figure within it.

4. Discriminate extremely aggressively early on in dating to avoid wasting time on low quality women. The faster you can cycle through prospects, the more likely you'll hit gold eventually.

5. Travel outside the West and regain some sanity there from time to time.

6. Import a woman (but at great risk due to environmental corruption).

7. Leave the West permanently and write it off as a lost cause.

It's not impossible to have success in the West but you have to understand the screwed up circumstances and combat them accordingly.

yeah about that the freakish girls I know was religious, understand, they are religious because of guilty, I know some who was cheating left and right they hubby and was religious

you know how to find a quality woman? LUCK, good luck finding one, place don't matter, country don't matter, anything you hope to do will not work

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Tbh I don't behind quality exists. Especially in the west. Women are retarded here. You can find a so called traditional church goer on some ex gf revenge site. There's not bad bets elsewhere. Here in aggregate, it's a bad bet, and coupled with rubbish laws. I'm convinced the caliber is better given my own experiences abroad or in the UK with foreign women. If you want awesome women, it's going to take work sourcing or go abroad. Dudes are too lazy. 1. They don't approach 2. Won't go to where higher caliber cultures exists for better values in women. After more than a decade of pickup i can count on one hand women who were young and would fit your description. Still I wouldn't marry.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Religious participation among those born after 1980 isn't all that impressive. You now have at least a generation and a half of low young adult religious participation. I first saw this trend coming up when I was in college in the early to mid-2000s. I was on the earlier wave of this and the early wave of this trend is turning 40 or pushing 40.

I believe that the way in which you meet a woman can impact how the relationship progresses. The bottom of the barrel is swipe apps. Bars are above that, as are all forms of in-person approaching. Bars are primarily good for finding one night stands and casual sex. If you focus more time on non-bar settings, you have a better chance of finding an extended relationship (1 year+). You can meet awful women in non-bar settings too. It can happen at the gym, mall, grocery store, or park/outdoors. It's less likely though.



Leaving the West is the best idea. It's difficult to implement and always has been. For every Western man that finds his way to Eastern Europe, Latin America, or Asia, at least 20 men explore the option and realize that they don't have the capacity to make it happen. The most difficult step in that is getting work authorization in those non-Western countries.



Every man here has sat through meaningless conversation and spent too much money on food or drinks in order to get laid. Also worth mentioning is how every man has sat through meaningless conversation and spent too much money on food or drinks and failed to get laid.



He won't need to say anything about it.




Yes, dealing with Australian women in a royal pain.

I will add that modern women's participating in religion isn't a belief but a life raft due to riding the carousel and a lifetime of gang bangs as well as aborted fetuses. The following contradicts said religious values, beliefs, and lifestyle but you know female logic.

Swipe apps are definitely low hanging fruit. 10s don't even know what apps are. They know abundance but typically fail to develop skills because life's even a free ride. Similar to a trust fund kid vs self made.

Again, I think red pill is a necessary measuring stick for fellas to explore temporary before going back to real life. Integrate knowing female nature having actually gotten girls. Knowing female nature particularly in the western world debunks the idea of marriage or the white picket fence. Women hear are broken. The culture is rubbish.

@ op, the path forward is like @darksprezzatura suggested. Level up. Get paper right. Become the man in a world full of low T soy boys and girlie men. Get on your purpose. Get paper right and Disqualify. Most women at best are Netflix and chill material not play house. After getting to this point, your time is extremely valuable so you won't bother with low hanging fruit. If she's not top shelf, she's useless.

Getting girls is sport.

 

[zinc4]

The best case if you're in the west:

1. Find a church with a younger crowd.

2. Focus on places where higher quality women hang out (Example: library vs bar. Volunteer work vs nightclub).

3. Find a niche activity and become a prominent respected figure within it.

4. Discriminate extremely aggressively early on in dating to avoid wasting time on low quality women. The faster you can cycle through prospects, the more likely you'll hit gold eventually.

5. Travel outside the West and regain some sanity there from time to time.

6. Import a woman (but at great risk due to environmental corruption).

7. Leave the West permanently and write it off as a lost cause.

It's not impossible to have success in the West but you have to understand the screwed up circumstances and combat them accordingly.

I'd say find one young who comes from a good family, strict alpha father and one who has some religious principles and obviously low partner count. Probably have to go to a small town or community to find one. But you are going to need social circle game or status there.