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Just discovered that LTR has been faking orgasms for a year. Can't get over it.

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I used to have great sex with my LTR. I knew how to make her ***, or at least I thought so.

After a period of time of her not cuming frequently anymore, I started asking her if there was anything wrong. I applied some pressure on her, she first blamed it on masturbating too much..but I wasn't convinced by the answer
...until she dropped the bomb... She can't ***, and she never came with a man.

Normally I would not care, I had a girl like this before, she told me straight away that she could not ***..sex was great and nasty.

But with this girl..after a year... I feel so betrayed. It is as if I don't know this b*tch at all. All the intimacy we shared..she was faking those orgasms so well to the point where I am scared of her ability to lie...because if she lied on other stuff too I WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO TELL.

After this discussion she also started telling that she doesn't like some of the naughty stuff we did (anal, facials etc.) and that she was doing them only to impress me in the beginning of the relationship. So basically I have been lured into commitment by a girl that now does not want to do some of the things that made our sex fun.

There is part of me that seriously thinks that this thing is over. She is really hot, but I haven't been able to enjoy sex since this has happened..and there is a part of me that wants to go out there and get a girl who has real raw desire for me. I had it before, I know how it feels, and I miss that feeling.

What do you think my friends? I need a wise advice.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You mean coming from penetration alone? Only like 25% of women can actually do it.

After this discussion she also started telling that she doesn't like some of the naughty stuff we did (anal, facials etc.) and that she was doing them only to impress me in the beginning of the relationship.
She doesn't have to like it. She just has to like that you like it. Anal is 100% about power.

Not gonna say that it is or isn't salvageable because it's not my place, but maybe ask her to show you how to get her to come? I can't tell if she's still attracted to you, but worst case you learn something you can use on all other women you'll be with.

But usually, getting women to come is more about how attracted they are to you than technique, but for LTR you will need technique at some point.
 
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OP,

First, let me say I can understand why this upsets you. There is certainly a degree of pride we take knowing we fu*ked a woman good. And this wounds that pride. She should have been up front and honest with you at the beginning about her inability/difficulty to orgasm from sex.

However, many women are embarrassed by this and think something is wrong with them even though many women have difficulty cumming from sex alone. Hence why giving oral can be a good alternative before you even start having sex. My last LTR rarely came from sex alone but I was able to make her through oral.

Bottom line, I don't think this is quite as serious as you are making it out to be assuming everything else is in good order in your LTR.
 

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Yea i'm not sure its that big a deal , women actually prefer to please than be pleased at least thats in my experinece

a HB i fvcked a couple of months ago was way more excited to give me a BJ than me eating her Pu$$y for 20 mins :rolleyes:

it was kinda weird but i think generally if she believes she's pleased you with her sex then she will be happy and some women will naturally nut when you nut inside them anyway

A few girls I've been with have done it , my ex used to get off every time i finished in her

This nonsense about women needing to be constantly satisfied and brought to multiple orgasms is contemporary rubbish mainly from man's addiction to porn

Sex is an art not a process
 

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OP, how is the rest of your relationship? Is she submissive and affectionate? Does she give of herself to you? These are important questions.
 

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Hi Tiger,
You should be delighted she does her best to please you!
This. A woman who fakes orgasms for me is better than one who needs me to get her off. The dynamic is clear who is submissive in each scenario
 

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Who cares?

OP, you’re looking at this wrong. Sex for women is emotional. Focus on other shvt in the relationship.. like the romance. That’s what makes them enjoy it. Create a romantic story for the weekend that culminates in the bedroom. Sex for them is not at all about the mechanical act. In the end she is supposed to worry about pleasing you, not vice versa.
 

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Does she get wet?
Will she masturbate or use a toy in front of you?
If this is important to you , I'd recommend you spend a lazy Sunday morning doing everything but sticking your **** in her, and do it like you have all day. And it can't feel rushed...she has got to be totally relaxed and vulnerable. Don't put ANY pressure on her to orgasm. just let her guide you to "what feels good".

You will know better than I what her particular turn ons are. Besides, your fingers won't go soft.
 

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I used to have great sex with my LTR. I knew how to make her ***, or at least I thought so.

After a period of time of her not cuming frequently anymore, I started asking her if there was anything wrong. I applied some pressure on her, she first blamed it on masturbating too much..but I wasn't convinced by the answer
...until she dropped the bomb... She can't ***, and she never came with a man.

Normally I would not care, I had a girl like this before, she told me straight away that she could not ***..sex was great and nasty.

But with this girl..after a year... I feel so betrayed. It is as if I don't know this b*tch at all. All the intimacy we shared..she was faking those orgasms so well to the point where I am scared of her ability to lie...because if she lied on other stuff too I WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO TELL.

After this discussion she also started telling that she doesn't like some of the naughty stuff we did (anal, facials etc.) and that she was doing them only to impress me in the beginning of the relationship. So basically I have been lured into commitment by a girl that now does not want to do some of the things that made our sex fun.

There is part of me that seriously thinks that this thing is over. She is really hot, but I haven't been able to enjoy sex since this has happened..and there is a part of me that wants to go out there and get a girl who has real raw desire for me. I had it before, I know how it feels, and I miss that feeling.

What do you think my friends? I need a wise advice.
Like I've said to other members here, your real problem is how you view sex. Most likely your idea of sex comes from years and years (and probably continuing) use of porn.

As others have stated, sex is not the same for women as it is for men. For us, it's all about ejeculating aka the climax. For them is an emotional journey (unless she is straight from the streets).

I agree that your pride is hurt, because she "lied". However, you are viewing this with the eyes of your pride and porn conditioning. Be grateful you have a girl that wants to please you and submits.

For a woman, reaching orgasm isn't th goal. It is the experience with that partner. Female orgasm is actually rare and only a few selected have the ability to reach it relatively easy. As long as you are giving her a good experience and she is loving the process she will be submissive and content.

Remember, forget everything porn taught you about sex. That is your real problem, and yours alone.


Modern Man Advice
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Never been with a girl who could *** every time.

The whol simultaneous orgasm thing is a bit of a unicorn.

Fingers in the come here gesture plus tongue on **** do it for most.

Some need a vibrator and a good hour alone.

Buy her one of those little rabbit vibrators. Tell her to get busy while you're having fun.
 

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Is this a troll post?

OP come on you should know what a real orgasm is, hard for a women to actually fake one.

Second its her problem if she didnt want to work with you in bed and get hers.

This could be her way of saying she dosent want to fuk anymore, I would stop having sex with her immediately.
 

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I used to have great sex with my LTR. I knew how to make her ***, or at least I thought so.

After a period of time of her not cuming frequently anymore, I started asking her if there was anything wrong. I applied some pressure on her, she first blamed it on masturbating too much..but I wasn't convinced by the answer
...until she dropped the bomb... She can't ***, and she never came with a man.

Normally I would not care, I had a girl like this before, she told me straight away that she could not ***..sex was great and nasty.

But with this girl..after a year... I feel so betrayed. It is as if I don't know this b*tch at all. All the intimacy we shared..she was faking those orgasms so well to the point where I am scared of her ability to lie...because if she lied on other stuff too I WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO TELL.

After this discussion she also started telling that she doesn't like some of the naughty stuff we did (anal, facials etc.) and that she was doing them only to impress me in the beginning of the relationship. So basically I have been lured into commitment by a girl that now does not want to do some of the things that made our sex fun.

There is part of me that seriously thinks that this thing is over. She is really hot, but I haven't been able to enjoy sex since this has happened..and there is a part of me that wants to go out there and get a girl who has real raw desire for me. I had it before, I know how it feels, and I miss that feeling.

What do you think my friends? I need a wise advice.
As long as you are climaxing, who cares? I dated a female who I found out her and her sister (they both couldn't climax) were on two or three anti-anxiety and anti-depressants. She told me she, her sister or her mom couldn't climax due to the meds. I had no issues. We lasted for five months. When it's over, move on.
 

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Sounds like you relaxed into a more beta frame during the LTR. If you aren't in phenomenal shape, get in shape, be more alpha, and if she doesn't get with the program, then start cheating on her and then dump her.
 

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BTW +1 on it being mainly emotional. And...

I see a lot of seniors on this thread they know for LTRs it's all about the and....

And give her a toe curling orgasm she s gonna cling to you like a koala afterwards.

And sleep in.

So you get up and create some Xmas value. ( It's the thought that counts). Make her something on toast fresh juice flower in a little vase tray in bed. If your smart that's 20 minutes invested max. For you curated gens post it on your insta whatever. Gain some cred with her herd.

Or...do some high visibility chores. Clean the front yard or even do dishes if the kitchen looks gross. I only ever do 'chick work' while my woman is sleeping or out. Decreases polarity.

Before the junkyard dogs of alphadom gang on me. This is a once in a while thing. Treat her as lean and mean as u like the rest of the time.

You can shout me down as beta as you like boys but results. I ain't pretty, rich, buffed or famous and I ve had half a dozen live ins of 2 years plus, very lively bedroom business and not one of them tried to take my assets on the way out
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Never been with a girl who could *** every time.

The whol simultaneous orgasm thing is a bit of a unicorn.

There is no one fits all. I had a gf could only get off from oral. Several who needed spanking etc. One who I couldn't do oral on for more than 5 minutes before she rolled over and presented for D. Funny thing was she was one who penetration didn't do it for but she loved getting filled. Chicks r weird full stop.

Fingers in the come here gesture plus tongue on **** do it for most.

Some need a vibrator and a good hour alone.

Buy her one of those little rabbit vibrators. Tell her to get busy while you're having fun.
Oops quoted myself :down:
 

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I used to have great sex with my LTR. I knew how to make her ***, or at least I thought so.

After a period of time of her not cuming frequently anymore, I started asking her if there was anything wrong. I applied some pressure on her, she first blamed it on masturbating too much..but I wasn't convinced by the answer
...until she dropped the bomb... She can't ***, and she never came with a man.

Normally I would not care, I had a girl like this before, she told me straight away that she could not ***..sex was great and nasty.

But with this girl..after a year... I feel so betrayed. It is as if I don't know this b*tch at all. All the intimacy we shared..she was faking those orgasms so well to the point where I am scared of her ability to lie...because if she lied on other stuff too I WOULD BE COMPLETELY UNABLE TO TELL.

After this discussion she also started telling that she doesn't like some of the naughty stuff we did (anal, facials etc.) and that she was doing them only to impress me in the beginning of the relationship. So basically I have been lured into commitment by a girl that now does not want to do some of the things that made our sex fun.

There is part of me that seriously thinks that this thing is over. She is really hot, but I haven't been able to enjoy sex since this has happened..and there is a part of me that wants to go out there and get a girl who has real raw desire for me. I had it before, I know how it feels, and I miss that feeling.

What do you think my friends? I need a wise advice.
A lot of women are ****ed up. Psychologically not oriented right. It's not your problem. I can bust a nut no problem.
 

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The fact she faked all those orgasms would bother me. What else will she not be sincere about? This is a window into who she is and how she deals with problems. Wait until she no longer wants to impress you. Lol. She needs to be with a guy that doesn't like sechs and is afraid to do anal.

I'd never be with a woman that didn't get wet or kum with me. I've had girls tell me they were in long term relationships with guys they never came with. If a chic can't come with me then I'm not the right guy for her. Experience has taught me this.

I'd bet there is a guy in her past that rejected her for faking those orgasms.
 

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Orgasms are all in the mind for women. Find what her kink is. Play on it and her tease her with it.
Dominate her and don't just pound her. Women like to have their Cl!t grinded against.
I've noticed that after a woman cums, they have a kind of glassy eyed, far away look in their eyes. They can't fake that. That's what I always look for if I'm not sure.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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