"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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My Cousin and his Meth Head "Sugar Baby"

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Some of you might remember the thread I made about this last summer.

My cousin is an older guy who is fat, ugly, and balding. He owns multiple businesses in another state that are run by his business manager.

His "girlfriend" is a 41 yr old Latina who smokes meth. They met on Seeking Arrangements. She has been doing meth most of her life. It's hard to tell she does meth besides that she is really thin. He thinks she is super hot and is obsessed with the porn style sex they have. She has no job and he pays for everything in her life including her meth and trips to the casino. The woman is a master manipulator. Last summer, she stole thousands from him and he kicked her to the curb. He cried about her and said he was in love with her. Within a couple months, she was able to weasel herself back in.

It's none of my business what he spends his money on but he's ruining his life. He thinks he will live happily ever after with her. My dad and I have tried to talk to him recently about what he's doing. It didn't go well. It is now to the point where he has unfriended my parents on FB and is not speaking to them. The rest of our family already stopped talking to him and his parents are both dead. My parents and I were the only ones that hadn't given up on him. Now my parents don't think I should speak to him. I'm kind of confused on what to do. I'm now the only family member he has left but I'm sick of what he's doing and I'm not happy about him cutting my parents off.

What would you guys do in this situation? Just walk away? What he doesn't realize is that he will have no one once things go to shVt with this girl.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Just walk away. Some damaged women actually have the effect of separating a man from his family and friends. The only thing you can do is watch from the sidelines and be there for him if / when his world explodes…
 

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Who cares? he clearly wants do to this and he's an adult. Just let him live his life.
 

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The more you do, the more he will push you away. The only person who can save him is himself. It's hard to stand by and watch someone you care about do this to themselves, but if they won't accept your advice there's nothing you can do about it.

Some people just insist on learning everything the hard way, you can only hope he eventually does wake up. I would walk away and I have walked away from similar situations in the past. In fact I even "walk away" from discussions on this forum when the other person won't listen to reason.

If the other person isn't listening then there's no sense in continuing to talk to them.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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CAPSLOCK BANDIT

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All this meth talk is depressing like seriously take a spin class or something if you need to get laid lmao
 

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Some of you might remember the thread I made about this last summer.

My cousin is an older guy who is fat, ugly, and balding. He owns multiple businesses in another state that are run by his business manager.

His "girlfriend" is a 41 yr old Latina who smokes meth. They met on Seeking Arrangements. She has been doing meth most of her life. It's hard to tell she does meth besides that she is really thin. He thinks she is super hot and is obsessed with the porn style sex they have. She has no job and he pays for everything in her life including her meth and trips to the casino. The woman is a master manipulator. Last summer, she stole thousands from him and he kicked her to the curb. He cried about her and said he was in love with her. Within a couple months, she was able to weasel herself back in.

It's none of my business what he spends his money on but he's ruining his life. He thinks he will live happily ever after with her. My dad and I have tried to talk to him recently about what he's doing. It didn't go well. It is now to the point where he has unfriended my parents on FB and is not speaking to them. The rest of our family already stopped talking to him and his parents are both dead. My parents and I were the only ones that hadn't given up on him. Now my parents don't think I should speak to him. I'm kind of confused on what to do. I'm now the only family member he has left but I'm sick of what he's doing and I'm not happy about him cutting my parents off.

What would you guys do in this situation? Just walk away? What he doesn't realize is that he will have no one once things go to shVt with this girl.
Maybe help find him another woman? If you can show him that he has better options, he'll dump this loser in a heartbeat.
 

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I'm with @Kotaix on this one. Don't help him but also don't drop him, just be there.

Edit: Do stay away from the girl as much as possible
 
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