What are the biggest red flags for you?

[Georgepithyou]

• Saying she loves you inside of 2 months
• Extreme appearance styles such as crazy or strange hair, tons of tattoos, strange clothing
• Tons of guy friends, even if they are 5 leagues below her
• Complains about things a lot (anything - the world, people etc)
• Glass is half-empty outlook/attitude
• Sh*t tests
• Easily angered/offended
• Lack of hobbies or interests
• Jealousy/insecurity
• Entitlement

Sounds like ever woman i have ever dated

The only way the culture can change and become healthier for everyone involved, is if men as a collective start holding other men accountable for having no healthy sense of dignity. We cant blame women for the way white knights, simps and soyboys treat themselves, allow themselves to be treated, treat women, and how all that affects women. WE have to change.

How did men even get to such a pathetic state? Modern man has no dignity or self respect. Nobody in my fathers generation would have signed up for onlyfans.

 

[SargeMaximus]

to be fair to him stringpuller isn’t the worst for this. He’s confrontational, but he’s not generally that anti social

He clearly got triggered and made some erroneous conclusions. A good quote I like to apply to people like him: “To a man with a hammer, every problem seems like a nail”

Not every issue is a beta issue

 

[SargeMaximus]

thats a very beta quote dude

You too eh? Ignored

 

[derby1]

How did men even get to such a pathetic state? Modern man has no dignity or self respect. Nobody in my fathers generation would have signed up for onlyfans.

i think its equally concerning how fast its happened. I was only at school in 1998 which isnt that long ago. I dont remember any kids being raised by a single mom alone

 

[derby1]

How did men even get to such a pathetic state?

another 2 reasons
*men now have scarcity mindsets on astronomical levels, where as before his G/f would have only had him or under 5 men available.
* even the worst members of society have the next fortnight of food sorted. theres 470 takeaways & 3 Mcdonalds in my town alone, yet i live in a "poor" area.

 

[Georgepithyou]

High levels of mainly male migration

That does explain why foreign women are so much nicer.

They have an abundance of women while we have an abundance of men.
I dont understand why we don't cap male migration

 

[mjb3617]

All women would have some red flags.

[Do not pass go, Do not collect $200, Run]

- Absent Father / Daddy issues
- Abusive Mother/ Mommy issues
- Severe mental health issues/ Medication/Therapy
- Drug abuser/Alcoholic

[Critical]

- Tattoos
- Piercings other than ear lobes
- Lots of guy friends/No girlfriend group
- Low interest/Enthusiasm/ Compliance
- Flakes twice without rescheduling


[Medium]

- No hobbies
- Spoiled
- Bad with finances/Manipulative
- Unemployed
- Recent break-up/Looking for rebound.
- Tries to control/dominate plans

Any of these red flags - Disqualify as potential LTR.

Christ, my ex has 2 of the don't pass go and 2 of the critical.

I can say you're information is accurate. Well done sir.

 

[powersize]

• Saying she loves you inside of 2 months
• Extreme appearance styles such as crazy or strange hair, tons of tattoos, strange clothing
• Tons of guy friends, even if they are 5 leagues below her
• Complains about things a lot (anything - the world, people etc)
• Glass is half-empty outlook/attitude
• Sh*t tests
• Easily angered/offended
• Lack of hobbies or interests
• Jealousy/insecurity
• Entitlement

For Tons of guy friends
Do you mean here orbiters and potential fuk buddies?

My last plate has a lot of guy friends in her home country and told me once that all of them want to fuk her. Despite the fact she has a bfin home county

 

[_sideways_]

EVERYONE HAS RED FLAGS....SO TO SPEAK.
NOBODY IS PERFECT HERE....
BUT lack of common courtesy....is my red flag.
Kinda like kicking a dog.
Don't do it.
Common courtesy.

It speaks bad against her family too if she lacks common courtesy.



On the other hand...if she's well mannered ....I want to know more about her.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Every woman has so many red flags that trying to avoid any of them means you'll be forced into celibacy.

I hear this loud and clear.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

For Tons of guy friends
Do you mean here orbiters and potential fuk buddies?

My last plate has a lot of guy friends in her home country and told me once that all of them want to fuk her. Despite the fact she has a bfin home county

Yes, I mean orbiters and f-buddies. Basically women generally fall into two buckets:
1. Women who have mostly guy friends
2. Women who have mostly girl friends

Most women have SOME guy friends, but if the majority of their social time is spent with the guy friends instead of girl friends, that's a huge red flag. Same thing for women who hang out with guys 1:1 frequently. It is also not a good sign if women are texting with guys a lot - whether the guy is in a relationship or single.

I have found through experience that women who have mostly guy friends operate that way because they are narcissistic and have a high need for attention and validation. The narcissistic component has to do with them focusing on themselves in friendship dynamics and there are two components to that.

The first is that they know full-well that any time they are lonely and want companionship, they can snap their fingers and have one of their many orbiters at their doorstep in minutes. They want to go for a hike but don't want to go alone? They msg a couple orbiters and immediately one comes over and picks her up and takes her hiking. They need help with something around the house? Same thing.

The second component is that they are all "take" in a friendship. Friendships should be about mutual giving, but these women have no desire to give anything, only take - they are looking to get their needs met. The only kind of person who is willing to partake in that kind of dynamic is a man who wants to fvck her. He too is trying to meet his own selfish needs and that is the need to sleep with a beautiful woman, and he attempts to do this by simping. His only desire is to fvck her and/or be in a relationship with her so he invests 100% into her without any requirements back from her and she absorbs all of it without giving him anything. Other women would not accept a friendship dynamic like this where it's all take, so this is why she has few or zero female friendships. I find that women like this claim they have female friends, and they usually do, it's just that if you didn't listen to them and instead watched their actions, you'd see 90% or more of their time (in texts and real life) will be spent with the guys instead of the girls.

All orbiters orbit because they want sex and/or a relationship. In 99% of male-female friendships, one or the other is attracted and wants more than friendship - usually it's the man who wants the woman. Even if these guys aren't a direct threat to you because you know she is physically repulsed by them, they can still cause problems. Nearly all of them will try to interfere with your relationship by trying to cut you down to her, or by always being her ear to listen when she is upset or frustrated with you, and in response to what she says, always siding with her and further cutting you down.

You have no idea if a guy is an orbiter or a fvck buddy (unless she flat out admits one or more are fvck buddies which few women will) so you have to assume all of them are potential or active fvck buddies.

 

[powersize]

Yes, I mean orbiters and f-buddies. Basically women generally fall into two buckets:
1. Women who have mostly guy friends
2. Women who have mostly girl friends

All women have SOME guy friends, but if the majority of their social time is spent with the guy friends instead of girl friends, that's a huge red flag. Same thing for women who hang out with guys 1:1 frequently. It is also not a good sign if women are texting with guys a lot - whether the guy is in a relationship or single.

I have found through experience that women who have mostly guy friends operate that way because they are narcissistic and have a high need for attention and validation. The narcissistic component has to do with them focusing on themselves in friendship dynamics and there are two components to that.

The first is that they know full-well that any time they are lonely and want companionship, they can snap their fingers and have one of their many orbiters at their doorstep in minutes. They want to go for a hike but don't want to go alone? They msg a couple orbiters and immediately one comes over and picks her up and takes her hiking. They need help with something around the house? Same thing.

The second component is that they are all "take" in a friendship. Friendships should be about mutual giving, but these women have no desire to give anything, only take - they are looking to get their needs met. The only kind of person who is willing to partake in that kind of dynamic is a man who wants to fvck her. He too is trying to meet his own selfish needs and that is the need to sleep with a beautiful woman, and he attempts to do this by simping. His only desire is to fvck her and/or be in a relationship with her so he invests 100% into her without any requirements back from her and she absorbs all of it without giving him anything. Other women would not accept a friendship dynamic like this where it's all take, so this is why she has few or zero female friendships. I find that women like this claim they have female friends, and they usually do, it's just that if you didn't listen to them and instead watched their actions, you'd see 90% or more of their time (in texts and real life) will be spent with the guys instead of the girls.

All orbiters orbit because they want sex and/or a relationship. In 99% of male-female friendships, one or the other is attracted and wants more than friendship - usually it's the man who wants the woman. Even if these guys aren't a direct threat to you because you know she is physically repulsed by them, they can still cause problems. Nearly all of them will try to interfere with your relationship by trying to cut you down to her, or by always being her ear to listen when she is upset or frustrated with you, and in response to what she says, always siding with her and further cutting you down.

You have no idea if a guy is an orbiter or a fvck buddy (unless she flat out admits one or more are fvck buddies which few women will) so you have to assume all of them are potential or active fvck buddies.

Good stuff. She told me that her male friend is coming and gonna stay all weekend at her place. So another fuk buddy.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Good stuff. She told me that her male friend is coming and gonna stay all weekend at her place. So another fuk buddy.

That's a high possibility but could also just be a simp she uses for attention and companionship. In my opinion and experience, it doesn't matter whether he is a f-buddy or a simp - you should think of them as one and the same. Women also enjoy telling men about their male friends and their plans with those friends (as you just described above) as a means to attempt to make you jealous and get a reaction out of you to further feed their narcissistic egos. Never give that to them. Instead, say "Sounds like fun, hope you have a good time," or nothing at all.

 

[powersize]

That's a high possibility but could also just be a simp she uses for attention and companionship. In my opinion and experience, it doesn't matter whether he is a f-buddy or a simp - you should think of them as one and the same. Women also enjoy telling men about their male friends and their plans with those friends (as you just described above) as a means to attempt to make you jealous and get a reaction out of you to further feed their narcissistic egos. Never give that to them. Instead, say "Sounds like fun, hope you have a good time," or nothing at all.

What is your way to deal with such girls in general to avoid being put into the same basked with those men?

I would limit my non sexual attention, no chat, no small talks, act like you have a lot of women around as well
Acting indifferent as you mentioned
Basically it all sums up to acting like you are high value male who keeps his sh1t together

 

[oldmanofthesea]

What is your way to deal with such girls in general to avoid being put into the same basked with those men?

Easy - you operate in the manner preached here. If I was only allowed one short sentence in which to distill years worth of posts, it would be basically:

By forcing women to very quickly take action in deciding whether or not they see you as a romantic prospect.

This simply means that you don't give women any attention if they haven't agreed to go on a date with you (beyond your initial conversation), that you very quickly ask them out on a date (as part of your 1st or 2nd conversation with them), and any answer other than a yes or a counter-offer for a different date/time means you hard-next them and don't talk with them any more unless they contact you AND ask YOU out. If they reach out to you, you can send 1-2 replies to them in that conversation max and it should look like this:

Her: "Hey what's up?"
You: "Just heading to a friend's. What's new?"
Her: "Oh just planning out my trip to California to visit a friend"
You: "Sounds like fun! Hey I've just arrived to my friends so have to go, but good hearing from you. Keep in touch"

That's it.

 

[Glassguy]

The top red flags according to SoSuave:
1. The put out too quickly.
2. They dont put out quick enough
3. They are too tall
4. They are too short
5. They text back to quick
6. They dont text back fast enough
7. They are beneath them in terms of SMV
8. They are out of the mans league
9. They are needy
10. They are aloof
11. They dont offer to split the bill
12. They offered to split the bill
13. They want to move to fast
14. They arent moving fast enough

I could go on and on, but you get my point lol

 

[zinc4]

As i approach my 30's one i keep an eye out for is being overly flirtatious with everyone and anyone

a chick i opened on sat night later reproached me and was swarming me with interest , but when my wingman arrived her attention diverted to him ( shiny new object ) she was then trying to have a conversation with both of us and offered both of us her number

I declined as i found it odd and my wingman is on one hell of a dry spell so felt he needed it more

thinking about it more now it was probably a red flag

He is taking her out tomorrow so it could be interesting to see what develops ( and if i was correct )

Very unattractive when a woman does that.

 

[Redwolf]

What are the biggest red flags for you when you date a new chick?

Face piercings. Lots of scribble scrabble tattoos. Colored hair. Openly talks about a history of sexual abuse. Obsession with celebrities or even small time celebrities.

 

[powersize]

Easy - you operate in the manner preached here. If I was only allowed one short sentence in which to distill years worth of posts, it would be basically:

By forcing women to very quickly take action in deciding whether or not they see you as a romantic prospect.

This simply means that you don't give women any attention if they haven't agreed to go on a date with you (beyond your initial conversation), that you very quickly ask them out on a date (as part of your 1st or 2nd conversation with them), and any answer other than a yes or a counter-offer for a different date/time means you hard-next them and don't talk with them any more unless they contact you AND ask YOU out. If they reach out to you, you can send 1-2 replies to them in that conversation max and it should look like this:

Her: "Hey what's up?"
You: "Just heading to a friend's. What's new?"
Her: "Oh just planning out my trip to California to visit a friend"
You: "Sounds like fun! Hey I've just arrived to my friends so have to go, but good hearing from you. Keep in touch"

That's it.

It is a very good advise and indeed I have been trying to follow it in the past.

If the girl is still texting you despide the replies that you show - she is most likely just looking for your validation and it is a matter of time once she will stop texting?

the whole point here is to be able to walk away which means for her “look, if you are expecting me to chase like your orbiters - better find othe dude for it”. This ultimately shows your high value and creates attraction?

 

[soulforge]

A red flag for me with my fwb yesterday that has me decided to next her.

I brought a USB over to watch some stuff. She accidentally stepped in it or something while it was in the computer. She apologized but never offered to replace it. It still works but I was just thinking if the roles were reversed I would offer to replace it because I damaged her property.

She then got pouty when I wasn’t talking to her instead of realize where the fault lay.

Next.

It still works and you're annoyed that she didn't offer to replace it.

It is working dude.. Why are you so damn petty over such an insignificant matter.

Wallowing in unessasary drama, is a female trait.