How long do you plan to date a woman before you:

[Josh Davidson]

1. Get engaged to her?

2. Marry her?

3. Dump her if she hasn't had sex with you yet?

 

[f283000]

For 1 and 2 I follow the advice of Mr Locario which is to vet a woman for a minimum of 5 years before marriage.

studies prove that the longer a woman invests in you (by dating you) the lower the divorce rates. They go down a good amount after 2-3 years of dating before marriage which should be a minimum for any guy.

You have to make a woman earn your last name and not just date her for 6 months and get married without her investing enough time in you to make it difficult for her to walk away.

3. If you can’t sleep with her by the 3rd date she just doesn’t see you as alpha enough and you’ll always have problems.

 

[bat soup]

1. Get engaged to her?

2. Marry her?

3. Dump her if she hasn't had sex with you yet?

I'd say at least 5 years for the first two and even then, just because you had 5 good years does that mean you want to sign up for 50?

I think for the 3rd point, what you want to see is cooperation and progress. If that stops at any point (for example she was kissing you before and now she doesn't want to), then you should cut her off and stop wasting your time.

Cooperatiion is always important, throughout any relationship. A woman that won't follow instructions is useless.

 

[dasein]

Tired of the "3 dates" fallacy as a hard and fast rule. I have slowplayed top shelf women many times over the years, and the results are better up to as far as two months in before sex.

The trick is that you already have at least 1-2 fairly regular women and let the new one know it very indirectly OR high interest level after a date you aced. If she is hot after you to the point of hinting at sex or a BJ in the car herself on the first two dates, OR if she is blowing up your phone with crumbs from you in between dates OR is asking you out on dates or to come over, OR she is a solid 9+, it is better IME to make her wait a bit. It drives them crazy when you slowplay them and let them chase you for awhile, makes things MUCH easier for you with one you may be interested in past fast sex. Sets you way apart from the thirsty. Of course don't bother with this unless she is extremely good looking and she could be a strong main girl candidate on paper.

 

[Serenity]

1. Get engaged to her?

2. Marry her?

Give it a few years. I engaged after 3 and married after 4. For me the reason was to make sure she'd stay even if marriage never happened. I remained extremely ambiguous about engagement for 3 years, she was consistently fine with it, didn't nag about it and it was only rarely brought up without any issues regarding it. When we got engaged it took a solid year before we even started planning the wedding, during this time she never expressed a desire to rush anything and was very patient. Had she not been patient and relaxed about it all I would never have gone through with it, but you'll have to really drag it out to check for this.

3. Dump her if she hasn't had sex with you yet?

Depends on circumstances. If there's no good reason to hold back on it then it's not long and there are very few good reasons. In my case she was a virgin and obviously anxious about having sex, I can understand that, it's a good reason for a little while at least. I waited a bit over a month in that case, I was damn close to calling it all off with a severe case of blue balls when she finally felt ready for her first time. Ever since then it has been frequent, she just had trouble passing the first barrier and once she experienced it she has loved having sex.

If I knew a woman wasn't a virgin I would have been way less forgiving.

 

[xplt]

3. If you can’t sleep with her by the 3rd date she just doesn’t see you as alpha enough and you’ll always have problems.

I‘ve never thought about it this way. But thinking back, this seems to be true.
I‘ve had two women who „needed“ 2-3 weeks before the first sex. Turned out later they were bossy and controlling, insecure and the relationships were constant powerstruggles. So overall dominant.
Other women, who were open for sex immediately, didn‘t show signs of dominance and were way more easy going and enjoyable.

 

[Billtx49]

1. Get engaged to her?

2. Marry her?

3. Dump her if she hasn't had sex with you yet?

1. Google Dating time before engagement …

2. Google Dating time before marriage …

Google is your friend @Josh Davidson , It will even give you average Cohabitation time until marriage…

3. That is every man’s personal optional decision, only he knows what his time is worth. What other men do shouldn’t influence Your actions unless you only want to follow other men…