Don't confuse low interest women with toxic women/Quit chasing toxic women!

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Here are my two recent interactions with a toxic woman and a low interest woman.

Toxic Woman A: I matched with this girl on hinge like a week and a half ago and she's was taking days to respond. I finally got her number and she's still took too dang long to respond, so I deleted number(didn't block). Last night, I got a text from her and she was still trying to continue the conversation and asked me to get drinks later with her this week. I left her on read lmao. WHY?!? because I knew this girl was going to be trouble later on and I'm not trying to deal with that.

Low Interest Woman B: I matched with her on hinge, she would message me back within a reasonable time frame. We exchanged numbers, I asked her when she was free, she gave me a day that she was free. The morning of that day, she sent me a long paragraph about how she caught a stomach virus from the school and could not make it. I said that's okay and we can hangout later. Could it have been bull ****? Maybe? Did this girl display normal behavior? Yes, so I might hit her up again because I would rather invest my time and energy on this girl than the toxic girl. If she flakes again then I will just move on, but it sure as hell beats whatever race toxic woman A would've put me through.

Think of it like the Vietnam war. You can go and win every battle with your game, sex, and etc, but at the end of the day you are going to come out losing the war broken and damaged. You see that this girl has more red flags than a Chinese parade, but you still decide to pursue her because you got game bro! Yay, you win the first two battles and get have sex with this girl within two dates and decide to brag about it to your friends and online. Everything is good until a month later she starts pulling back and being showing less interest. You start freaking out and thinking you lost frame because you put LOL at the end of a text last Tuesday night so she must have saw that as an early sign of weakness. Now you are back on this site asking for help on this girl because she 's over here riding the carousel because you couldn't accept the fact that It was just your turn and it was a Vietnam war scenario from the getgo. You WILL NEVER WIN with these women, STOP IT GUYS!

 

[Georgepithyou]

I knew this girl was going to be trouble later on and I'm not trying to deal with that.

Your gut feeling is right here. Lazy in, lazy out.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Both of those examples were mistakes.

You had an incoming date offer that you turned down because she didn’t respond on the app quick enough.

Then you wrote off a chick you never met in person for “flaking,” rather than nudging her to make a counter offer. (It’s not low interest if you’ve never met).

You guys leave way too much ass on the table by misapplying the principles.

 

[RickPound]

I think there is an interesting conversation here. Low interest vs. toxic (vs. just female nature or actually had something come up...etc)

A flake or more generally just not getting the outcome you wanted right away could be any of the above. How do you know?

I have learned that the principles on this site/community work, but they’re not laws. Things are still very situational and it seems a lot of times we are quick to Next or, yeah, come on here asking if the semantics of a text we sent turned her off and our own brain starts spinning.

I’m dealing with one right now where I find myself analyzing every exchange or interaction through the DJ/red pill/game lens to gauge/keep her interest and it’s exhausting.

I remember one of the only pieces of advice my father gave me was to “just play it cool”. That definitely means not chasing, but also not freaking out and nexting or thinking she’s f**cking another dude as she’s telling you she’s sick.

Thoughts?

 

[Georgepithyou]

I remember one of the only pieces of advice my father gave me was to “just play it cool”. That definitely means not chasing, but also not freaking out and nexting or thinking she’s f**cking another dude as she’s telling you she’s sick.

Let's look at it like this though, you not nexting her means you're tolerating disrespect. She simply has low interest if she stops texting you. Sure you can play it cool and on the very slim chance she actually was "busy" she might get back to you.

It's better to have an abundance mindset, and actually meet a woman who is excited to be with you. Just like in buisness, sometimes it's best to just cut your losses and move on.

 

[RickPound]

Let's look at it like this though, you not nexting her means you're tolerating disrespect. She simply has low interest if she stops texting you. Sure you can play it cool and on the very slim chance she actually was "busy" she might get back to you.

It's better to have an abundance mindset, and actually meet a woman who is excited to be with you. Just like in buisness, sometimes it's best to just cut your losses and move on.

True, I guess my point is not jumping to conclusions and shooting yourself in the foot.

How about the high interest but still flaky scenario - that can be tricky to do the right thing. Does that also just come back to disrespect so then next?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Both of those examples were mistakes.

You had an incoming date offer that you turned down because she didn’t respond on the app quick enough.

Then you wrote off a chick you never met in person for “flaking,” rather than nudging her to make a counter offer. (It’s not low interest if you’ve never met).

You guys leave way too much ass on the table by misapplying the principles.

You can have Girl A because no one is that busy to be taking a day to respond, she's playing games or messing with some dude that won't commit.. Girl B, I asked out again today and we have a date setup

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Let's look at it like this though, you not nexting her means you're tolerating disrespect. She simply has low interest if she stops texting you. Sure you can play it cool and on the very slim chance she actually was "busy" she might get back to you.

It's better to have an abundance mindset, and actually meet a woman who is excited to be with you. Just like in buisness, sometimes it's best to just cut your losses and move on.

I wouldn't even say low interest, can we just say no interest instead? I think we are mistaking high interest for medium interest and medium interest for low interest.

 

[Georgepithyou]

How about the high interest but still flaky scenario - that can be tricky to do the right thing. Does that also just come back to disrespect so then next?

High interest but flaky attitude is signs of love bombing, which is a common tactic by narrcassists to emotionally manipulate someone.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

High interest but flaky attitude is signs of love bombing, which is a common tactic by narrcassists to emotionally manipulate someone.

Exactly, a girl should respect you, but if a girl is showing unusual high interest from the beginning then I would be concerned.

 

[RickPound]

High interest but flaky attitude is signs of love bombing, which is a common tactic by narrcassists to emotionally manipulate someone.

Exactly, a girl should respect you, but if a girl is showing unusual high interest from the beginning then I would be concerned.

Uh oh

 

[EyeBRollin]

You can have Girl A because no one is that busy to be taking a day to respond, she's playing games or messing with some dude that won't commit.. Girl B, I asked out again today and we have a date setup

Wrong principle at the wrong time. You guys need to check this “frame” stuff prior to actually meeting the gal. All you are doing is blowing leads.

 

[BadBoy89]

If a woman is toxic for a man, he doesn’t get involved, he walks away. If a woman has low interest, he goes and finds another woman who treats him the way HE wants to be treated.

Remember men, women ONLY care about what you can do for them.

In a way, I look at a woman as someone I am going to do business with. Would I call that person twice for a business meeting? Would I accept that person showing up 15-20 minutes late for the first business meeting? Would I tolerate disrespect from a person I’m doing business with? Would I take that person to expensive restaurants and not get anything in return? If I don’t tolerate it from that person, I don’t tolerate it from a woman.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

If a woman is toxic for a man, he doesn’t get involved, he walks away. If a woman has low interest, he goes and finds another woman who treats him the way HE wants to be treated.

Remember men, women ONLY care about what you can do for them.

In a way, I look at a woman as someone I am going to do business with. Would I call that person twice for a business meeting? Would I accept that person showing up 15-20 minutes late for the first business meeting? Would I tolerate disrespect from a person I’m doing business with? Would I take that person to expensive restaurants and not get anything in return? If I don’t tolerate it from that person, I don’t tolerate it from a woman.

I don't disagree, but the dating game has gotten so bad that we are confusing being respectful as high interest and being disrespectful as low interest/playing hard to get, keep gaming her!!

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don't disagree, but the dating game has gotten so bad that we are confusing being respectful as high interest and being disrespectful as low interest/playing hard to get, keep gaming her!!

Being disrespectful is their default setting. In the USA, anyway.

It really becomes apparent if you travel somewhere else where females are not all disrespectful cvnts. Believe it or not, there's some countries where they actually act like normal people and are actually pleasant to be around.

 

[bat soup]

Here are my two recent interactions with a toxic woman and a low interest woman.

Toxic Woman A: I matched with this girl on hinge like a week and a half ago and she's was taking days to respond. I finally got her number and she's still took too dang long to respond, so I deleted number(didn't block). Last night, I got a text from her and she was still trying to continue the conversation and asked me to get drinks later with her this week. I left her on read lmao. WHY?!? because I knew this girl was going to be trouble later on and I'm not trying to deal with that.

Low Interest Woman B: I matched with her on hinge, she would message me back within a reasonable time frame. We exchanged numbers, I asked her when she was free, she gave me a day that she was free. The morning of that day, she sent me a long paragraph about how she caught a stomach virus from the school and could not make it. I said that's okay and we can hangout later. Could it have been bull ****? Maybe? Did this girl display normal behavior? Yes, so I might hit her up again because I would rather invest my time and energy on this girl than the toxic girl. If she flakes again then I will just move on, but it sure as hell beats whatever race toxic woman A would've put me through.

Think of it like the Vietnam war. You can go and win every battle with your game, sex, and etc, but at the end of the day you are going to come out losing the war broken and damaged. You see that this girl has more red flags than a Chinese parade, but you still decide to pursue her because you got game bro! Yay, you win the first two battles and get have sex with this girl within two dates and decide to brag about it to your friends and online. Everything is good until a month later she starts pulling back and being showing less interest. You start freaking out and thinking you lost frame because you put LOL at the end of a text last Tuesday night so she must have saw that as an early sign of weakness. Now you are back on this site asking for help on this girl because she 's over here riding the carousel because you couldn't accept the fact that It was just your turn and it was a Vietnam war scenario from the getgo. You WILL NEVER WIN with these women, STOP IT GUYS!

I´m not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that woman A was toxic whilst woman B was low interest. The first one seemed like low interest to me (taking long to respond) although she did eventually give you her number and want to meet up, so at that point I don´t know why you blew her off. The second one gave you a BS excuse to cancel the date and most likely just decided to meet someone else.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

These are clear signs of being victims of female gas lighting and manipulation. Why are yall defending some girl that was playing a game by waiting a day to respond to texts and immediately jumped to conclusions that girl b was lying to meet someone else lol?

 

[bat soup]

These are clear signs of being victims of female gas lighting and manipulation. Why are yall defending some girl that was playing a game by waiting a day to respond to texts and immediately jumped to conclusions that girl b was lying to meet someone else lol?

You don´t know if she was waiting deliberately or if she was low interest. She could have hundreds of guys in her inbox and have simply forgotten about you.

Why would a woman lie when blowing you off and cancelling a date at the last minute? Well, because that way she can meet the high-priority guy now and keep the low priority guy (you) as a backup for later.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You don´t know if she was waiting deliberately or if she was low interest. She could have hundreds of guys in her inbox and have simply forgotten about you.

Why would a woman lie when blowing you off and cancelling a date at the last minute? Well, because that way she can meet the high-priority guy now and keep the low priority guy (you) as a backup for later.

Okay then why would I want to talk to a girl messaging hundreds of guys and doesn't have the respect of responding back to my texts in a reasonable manner? If she is busier than Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin then I guess I she's super woman man.

Girl B told me the morning of that she was sick, so it wasn't last minute. Regardless, we could've went on a date and then afterwards went and hopped on Tyrone's D. With this mentality, I can create a pessimistic narrative for anything.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Okay then why would I want to talk to a girl messaging hundreds of guys and doesn't have the respect of responding back to my texts in a reasonable manner? If she is busier than Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin then I guess I she's super woman man.

Because it does not matter. You have no value until you get in front of her face. The point is to get a first date.