Velasco
Master Don Juan
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back in my day before I learned game, I had women approaching me too. So there is something else going on I just don’t know what.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
back in my day before I learned game, I had women approaching me too. So there is something else going on I just don’t know what.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
we all like to feel special.is that true about lying tho? I thought women responded to men who were honest instead of telling people what they wanted to hear. It’s much harder to be brutally honest than changing your responses to fit the audience.
Women dislike honesty I've found, because they are often dishonest themselves, both to others and to themselves. Drop a truth bomb on a girl who's mastered self deception and she will resent you for it.Is that true about lying tho? I thought women responded to men who were honest instead of telling people what they wanted to hear. It’s much harder to be brutally honest than changing your responses to fit the audience.
So that’s fascinating because I’ve noticed one of my strengths is being genuine. People can tell when you’re fake. In sales and with women my genuineness has served me well. And on the other side “faking it till I make it” has never worked.Dude Noooo. Being honest with women is massively handicapping you.
Why is this? Because women are the top tier liars of humanity. If you're bringing honesty, while she is bringing her hamster and her lies, then it's like going to a gun fight armed with a knife.
Lying to women is simply using their own female weapons against them.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
well, like I said, I value authenticity. Having said that, I have been trying to do the whole “yes I’m looking for a relationship too” but so far, any girl that made that a prerequisite in the interaction and I’ve played along, I was immediately in the back burner. It hasn’t gotten me laid yet.It's a bit more subtle than that. For example, when a girl says she's looking for a serious relationship and wants to settle down then you wouldn't say "I'm just looking for casual sex". You'd play along with her, bang her, then discard her.
Women string guys along all the time, so I don't see any issue with this.
You don't want to fake your entire personality, you just want to sprinkle the lies in at the right time to achieve specific goals with women. Another example would be if a woman says something like "smoking is a deal breaker" and you're a smoker. You wouldn't tell her that you smoke, would you? There are various other examples along these lines.
Keep this is mind too. It's in a woman's interest for you to be completely honest with her about everything so then she can make an accurate assessment of you. Meanwhile, she'll lie through her teeth to you. I don't think that's a fair fight at all. If women are allowed to lie, then men are too. Getting caught up in morality bullsh!t means you're playing right into the Female Mating Startegy.
I see, thanks. The thing is, in line with authenticity, when I’ve tried to do the “dangle” thing, I think the girl knew I was playing her.Here's what you're doing wrong in that situation. You don't directly tell a woman that you're ready for an LTR with her. She needs to be pushing for that, not you. She needs to feel like she has "won you over".
What you need to do is dangle the possibility. "Yes, I'm open to an LTR if I meet the right woman. But I'm picky" - you want to get her qualifying to you, because you are the prize.
But the truth of the matter is that your intention may be to just pump and dump her. She doesn't need to know that.
sarge, you literally just said had you not had ED (on two separate occasions), you would've fcked her despite her "looking for a serious relationship" objection lol.So, like I said, when I’ve followed a woman’s frame in that regard, it hasn’t translated into a lay.
No you misunderstand. She didn’t object with the relationship, she pitched it to me AFTER our second night in bed. While we were laying there sweaty and my **** not working. We humped the **** out of each other both times but I never got fully erect.sarge, you literally just said had you not had had ed (on two separate occasions), you would've fcked her despite her "looking for a serious relationship" objection lol.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Except that since doing it, I lost my virginity, and have multiple fwbs. Pick up never worked for me so I went my own way.I understand, man. Some guys just aren't cut out to play women like that.
Unfortunately, "just be yourself" is the absolute worst strategy when it comes to pick-up. It sounds good in theory, but it just doesn't work. You need to play with women on their level - women are manipulative, so if you go in non-manipulative and genuine then she'll just see you as a chump.
Lol this is all in my topic. I am looking into viagra. Thank you for stating the obviousD1ck not working means she decided you weren't alpha fux, so decided to make you beta bux instead.
I'd look into some viagra if I were you. Women are brutal when it comes to d1ck not working.
Evaluate cialis, it lasts 36 hrsLol this is all in my topic. I am looking into viagra. Thank you for stating the obvious
Dude I don’t want something that lasts that long. I’ll destroy my ****Evaluate cialis, it lasts 36 hrs
Also, the ONLY, reason I care my **** didn’t work is because I didn’t get to use it, I don’t care what she wanted in that regard.Lol this is all in my topic. I am looking into viagra. Thank you for stating the obvious
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
It nicer on your system too.Dude I don’t want something that lasts that long. I’ll destroy my ****
You gotta stay with babes whose feeling you sexually, who turn you on. Otherwise erection issues will arise due to the attraction or lack of.Also, the ONLY, reason I care my **** didn’t work is because I didn’t get to use it, I don’t care what she wanted in that regard.
I actually have an amazing vision for myself where I can **** any woman and it’s just sex to me. Much easier to stay detached too.It nicer on your system too.
You gotta stay with babes whose feeling you sexually, who turn you on. Otherwise erection issues will arise due to the attraction or lack of.
But if they aren't feeling you they will **** up your erections and sex drive. We can't force a female to desire us. We gotta stay with the ones that do or we'll have issues.I actually have an amazing vision for myself where I can **** any woman and it’s just sex to me. Much easier to stay detached too.
Dude this girl DOES want me. She was grinding on me for hours trying to get me hard. Why are you misinterpreting everything I say?But if they aren't feeling you they will **** up your erections and sex drive. We can't force a female to desire us. We gotta stay with the ones that do or we'll have issues.
Sorry. Your in a tough spot. Perhaps your overthinking it?Dude this girl DOES want me. She was grinding on me for hours trying to get me hard. Why are you misinterpreting everything I say?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.