99% of men are invisible to women

[BeExcellent]

This is same reason why taking love advice from a woman is shiit advice.

She will think about that 1% man when giving you advice...

"Tell her how you feel", "send her a letter", "take her out to an expensive dinner", "buy her flowers", "tell her she is the most beautiful woman you have ever met", and others sorts of verbal crap.

She gives you this advice because this is how she would like that unreachable, unavailable high value man to treat her and suddenly shower her with his love. This is what she's been dreaming of..

Little does she know that this would in fact turn her off and take away the challenge. The dude she wants is so attractive because he doesn't do what she desires.

Advice from the old lady....

Ok. I NEVER give that sort of advice around here. Well. Once. To a very close friend of mine whose been dating his Latina gf for 6 years. She was complaining the he has NEVER gotten her roses and chocolates in 6 years.

So I told him “Listen. Ass hole has worked well for you. She’s head over heels in love with you. Get her the GD roses & chocolates. She will faint from excitement/disbelief...”

So he did. Surprised her with 2 dozen red roses and chocolates on Valentines...took her to a nice dinner...We didn’t see him for a week she was so busy shagging him, lol. He was exhausted. But that is 6 years in.

Never start off there. Like many things flowers & jewelry and dinners have to fit your seduction style. If the girl is really into you it can work. I’ve had a man give flowers early on and it increased my interest...but he’s a masculine man I would never have expected to do that. So it was a side he rarely shows and that means I’m special to him. We all want to feel special, to feel desired. But it is nuanced.

The nuance gets lost around here tbh.

 

[Velasco]

but he’s a masculine man I would never have expected to do that. So it was a side he rarely shows and that means I’m special to him.

Casual/FWB - Why it's important to be nice to girls

This thread was inspired by a phone call I had this afternoon with my long term ****buddy (fbLTR? lol) anyway, a couple months ago, right before quarantine, she had just got a fever. and didn't have any Ibuprofen. So as I was getting dress and leaving her apartment, she asked if I could go out...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[AttackFormation]

Don't agree 100%, but that's the beauty of the forum. It's not that kindness and good treatment isn't attractive at all to her. It's not that it doesn't feel good, because it feels great. It's that she prefers that these unavailable men who aren't as attracted to her would do some of these things for her. These men are difficult, because they are extremely selfish. The women get attracted to the challenge of making him give her love.

The other men that she dates will do these things, but it's not who she really wants to do it, and these guys lose attractiveness over time, if they came to her with any amount of attractiveness or swag, because she is not VALUING his actions towards her. These men are "easy" ( in her mind ), because they are available and they treat her great without her valuing them first.

Had the guy who doesn't think about her made these actions she would value them. She would be smitten.

I'm not sure any woman except dysfunctional ones really LIKE being treated like sh1t and like they don't matter.

Mrgoodstuff, is that really you? are you on a computer writing this? I've never seen you formulate a post like this, the whole way you write is different. Is this you?

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

basically at the bottom of all this , if you're sexually attractive to women you will be unavailable , why? because of course you're not gonna shack up or marry one chick when you can very easily have your pick of a different flavor every day of the week, even an idiot wouldnt put all his eggs into one basket if he constantly got choosing signals ,it would turn into a game of screening at that point

if you're invisible , thats a good thing, it means the juice isnt worth the squeeze ANYWAY

 

[Hamurabimbi]

How did he respond?

He was quite upset. Ranted to me s bit.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Saw a video about a single mom complaining about how she can't find a man that wants to date a single mom. We all know there's plenty of simps out there that wouldn't give two **** if she had 5 kids from 5 different dudes. What she actually means is that the top 5% of men won't date a single mom lmao.

 

[BeExcellent]

Casual/FWB - Why it's important to be nice to girls

This thread was inspired by a phone call I had this afternoon with my long term ****buddy (fbLTR? lol) anyway, a couple months ago, right before quarantine, she had just got a fever. and didn't have any Ibuprofen. So as I was getting dress and leaving her apartment, she asked if I could go out...

www.skilledseducer.com

The first time I met this man for a date he gave me a dozen ivory roses in an elegant crystal vase with a wire heart he had created. I had met him a year or so before that when we were both dating others and he never forgot me. The arrangement was simple and beautiful. I dried the flowers and the arrangement sits on my beside table. Very touching.

He also would surprise me by taking me shopping for clothes (to have at his place) and jewelry. He always keeps my favorite libation (a particular wine and particular cordial) on hand at his. He insisted I take a drawer as I am often there. He’s given me things to meet specific needs that he sees without me asking...really thoughtful things...and I greatly appreciate his effort precisely because he doesn’t do these things for just anyone.

My friend I advised to get the chocolates and roses has a wonderful woman, beautiful woman who adores him. She is loyal. Adoration and loyalty are rare. They deserve to be rewarded from time to time.

At the end of the day we are all human. There is grace and beauty in showing a bit of humanity to people around you. Generally people respond very well to humanity if they care for you at all.

Cheers

 

[BadBoy89]

For a man, it ALL comes down to HEIGHT and HAIR. The things the man CANNOT change are what is MOST IMPORTANT to a girl.

Generally in North America, money doesn’t not matter. Girls do not care about money. They can either get divorced to get paid, make their own money, or have the system take care of them.

If man is masculine and short, it comes off as if he is trying too hard
If man is rich and short, it comes off as if he is over compensating
If man good looking and short, it comes off as if he is conceited

In my building, there was this a hot 29 year old girl looking to get married. Tons of guys asked her she said no. Then it came down to 2. One guy was short, had a ton of money, and educated. Other guy was tall, no money, and more educated. Guess who she picked?

Life is all about height. Get tall or ruin your life,

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

For a man, it ALL comes down to HEIGHT and HAIR. The things the man CANNOT change are what is MOST IMPORTANT to a girl.

Generally in North America, money doesn’t not matter. Girls do not care about money. They can either get divorced to get paid, make their own money, or have the system take care of them.

If man is masculine and short, it comes off as if he is trying too hard
If man is rich and short, it comes off as if he is over compensating
If man good looking and short, it comes off as if he is conceited

In my building, there was this a hot 29 year old girl looking to get married. Tons of guys asked her she said no. Then it came down to 2. One guy was educated, had a ton of money, and educated. Other guy was tall, no money, and more educated. Guess who she picked?

Life is all about height. Get tall or ruin your life,

TRUTH.

 

[Robert28]

For a man, it ALL comes down to HEIGHT and HAIR. The things the man CANNOT change are what is MOST IMPORTANT to a girl.

Generally in North America, money doesn’t not matter. Girls do not care about money. They can either get divorced to get paid, make their own money, or have the system take care of them.

If man is masculine and short, it comes off as if he is trying too hard
If man is rich and short, it comes off as if he is over compensating
If man good looking and short, it comes off as if he is conceited

In my building, there was this a hot 29 year old girl looking to get married. Tons of guys asked her she said no. Then it came down to 2. One guy was educated, had a ton of money, and educated. Other guy was tall, no money, and more educated. Guess who she picked?

Life is all about height. Get tall or ruin your life,

Is she divorced now?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

For a man, it ALL comes down to HEIGHT and HAIR. The things the man CANNOT change are what is MOST IMPORTANT to a girl.

Generally in North America, money doesn’t not matter. Girls do not care about money. They can either get divorced to get paid, make their own money, or have the system take care of them.

If man is masculine and short, it comes off as if he is trying too hard
If man is rich and short, it comes off as if he is over compensating
If man good looking and short, it comes off as if he is conceited

In my building, there was this a hot 29 year old girl looking to get married. Tons of guys asked her she said no. Then it came down to 2. One guy was educated, had a ton of money, and educated. Other guy was tall, no money, and more educated. Guess who she picked?

Life is all about height. Get tall or ruin your life,

I'm 6ft 1, 12% bf, make over 100k and there's dudes that are shorter than me, fatter than me, and make less money than me and have never had to google dating advice ever lol.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Advice from the old lady....

Ok. I NEVER give that sort of advice around here. Well. Once. To a very close friend of mine whose been dating his Latina gf for 6 years. She was complaining the he has NEVER gotten her roses and chocolates in 6 years.

So I told him “Listen. Ass hole has worked well for you. She’s head over heels in love with you. Get her the GD roses & chocolates. She will faint from excitement/disbelief...”

So he did. Surprised her with 2 dozen red roses and chocolates on Valentines...took her to a nice dinner...We didn’t see him for a week she was so busy shagging him, lol. He was exhausted. But that is 6 years in.

Never start off there. Like many things flowers & jewelry and dinners have to fit your seduction style. If the girl is really into you it can work. I’ve had a man give flowers early on and it increased my interest...but he’s a masculine man I would never have expected to do that. So it was a side he rarely shows and that means I’m special to him. We all want to feel special, to feel desired. But it is nuanced.

The nuance gets lost around here tbh.

Basically only give it to her when earned

 

[returnofpigman]

I honestly don’t even bother 90% of the time. Can’t get rejected if you keep to yourself. Can’t be called a creep either, don’t have to worry about if she finds me Chadly or not, I’m just there minding my own business getting my coffee and going on my way. The girl that always serves me is always super chatty with me though, I just chalk it up to that’s her job. She’s covered in tattoos and has that feminist look, I’m definitely not her type and I’m smart enough to know that. She still talks my ear off though so I just roll with it.

Um...get her number and meet her somewhere for a drink. Simple. Cut her off when she’s talking and talking by saying, “I have to go. You seem pretty cool, let’s meet up some time. Give me you number.” Get the number and leave. If you don’t turn her into a plate, I don’t know why not. Send her a text in a day or so. Meet up with her in a neutral location. Propose a time midweek around 8. Meet her and resume talking. A plate’s a plate. Don’t presume to know what her type is.

 

[returnofpigman]

...called a creep for saying Hi to a girl? Not hardly,

I say hi to every girl, woman, mother, grandma etc who makes eye contact with me. I like to practice approaching women and analyze how it goes and how she responds. Did this the other day with a women in the parking lot of Kohls. Predictably she was quarter turned away for the beginning of the conversation then shifted fully towards me after a few minutes. I was the one who cut off the conversation. We went from how she liked her car (opener) to where she works, where’s she has traveled, what languages we both speak, where we have traveled, yadda, yadda, yadda. I do have a slight advantage in that I am 52 and can and will approach most women in a 20-60 age range.