Johns in Dayton, OH have to attend "John school" for 1st offense, then HARD TIME for 2nd offense

[MatureDJ]

Looking to buy sex? Welcome to John School

DAYTON — A couple of the guys look like college students who could be spending their money on dates.

www.daytondailynews.com

my opinion: Laws against prostitution (i.e., without allowing a "red zone" where it is legal) are purely a gynocentric meme. I would love for a local/state pol to say that he will vote to allow legal prostitution. Perhaps the exponential growth of inceldom will create a political base for this.

 

[Trez]

Looking to buy sex? Welcome to John School

DAYTON — A couple of the guys look like college students who could be spending their money on dates.

www.daytondailynews.com

my opinion: Laws against prostitution (i.e., without allowing a "red zone" where it is legal) are purely a gynocentric meme. I would love for a local/state pol to say that he will vote to allow legal prostitution. Perhaps the exponential growth of inceldom will create a political base for this.

Not to mention that many countries in Europe legalize women selling sex and only criminalize men buying it. Talk about systematic discrimination. Prostitution should be legal, maybe even we should so they cant unionize, and that they can only charge so much so that all men can afford it, and even give poor men a credit that government funded, like food stamps. Men are entitled to sex. It's a need. It would solve a lot of problems in society. Those poor guys who can't get sex, they're probably so depressed, it's inhuman.

Besides consent has nothing to do with attraction or desire. Plenty of prostitutes have sex with men they don't desire for money.

 

[Trez]

What we could do that would be a great solution and keep prices down is have prostitution visas for poor women. The poor women of the world could service American men, it would improve their standard of living for a time being, of course they could even save money while they're here and have some for when they get to old and are deported. It would be fair.

 

[MatureDJ]

What we could do that would be a great solution and keep prices down is have prostitution visas for poor women. The poor women of the world could service American men, it would improve their standard of living for a time being, of course they could even save money while they're here and have some for when they get to old and are deported. It would be fair.

Could anyone possibly imagine any Congressman putting forth a bill for such a visa? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? No, the only way the American escortcel is going to get any action is to locatemax.

 

[Trez]

Could anyone possibly imagine any Congressman putting forth a bill for such a visa? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? No, the only way the American escortcel is going to get any action is to locatemax.

Lol I know but it would be funny if it happened and it's fair game as long as everything is voluntary. Have some empathy for these guys that are seemingly hopeless, especially if they're law abiding citizens who are to afraid to get on trouble and would never see an escort unless it was legal.

Plus think about the power it would take away from women, or would chip away at their special privileges the don't deserve, yet enjoy.

Maybe one day if we get the progressives out of our schools and create a more libertarian society this would be a possibility. However we can't alone these clueless guys to marry the third world prostitutes because that would probably be bad, unless we revoke citizenship in the case of divorce, and within reason, make it very difficult for women to get anything after a divorce, especially if she cheated or was being a b1tch.

 

[corrector]

We have to see how these laws are being enforced and what races of people are being targeted. I know from the past that allot of "john" complaints are rarely if ever followed up with by the police. Its not taken seriously as a crime.

 

[Who Dares Win]

A man that has no skill or value to get sex for free is punished for trying to pay for it.

Any individual that has no intention, will or desire to work is awarded free money from tax payers contributions....makes sense.

 

[corrector]

A man that has no skill or value to get sex for free is punished for trying to pay for it.

Any individual that has no intention, will or desire to work is awarded free money from tax payers contributions....makes sense.

Most people who use sex-workers are either already married or already have a girlfriend, or may be using them for convenience, because they can, or are MTGOWers. What makes you think they can't get sex for free?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Most people who use sex-workers are either already married or already have a girlfriend, or may be using them for convenience, because they can, or are MTGOWers. What makes you think they can't get sex for free?

If they are married as you say, guess we know the reason why they aint getting laid.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If they are married as you say, guess we know the reason why they aint getting laid.

In her view, she trapped him already. Why should she give him anything?

 

[Who Dares Win]

In her view, she trapped him already. Why should she give him anything?

True and even worse is that she doesnt want to either...which is the case for most marriage when she got old and needed to settle asap.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

True and even worse is that she doesnt want to either...which is the case for most marriage when she got old and needed to settle asap.

What a fvcking scam.

 

[corrector]

If they are married as you say, guess we know the reason why they aint getting laid.

What about variety, convenience, and easy access to college-aged or barely legal adults when you are over 40-50 years old? You have one scenario. There are other guys on these "escort boards" where it seems they've got everything together, the have wives that love and put out for them and then they engage in this hobby because it is convenient, discreet and offers variety. The point I was making is a narrow focus board so you are going to get the impression about the type of people who use escorts (i.e. single and can't get laid because they are incel, or nearcel on a dry-spell, low-tier normies that puke if a lady is less than hb5, betabuxes who have wives that hate them who can't get laid). People on this board are either Chads/Chadlites or upper/mid tier normies, where it's a shame and waste to use an escort, or really can't get laid with an "acceptable looking hb" unless they use an escort. Nobody here actually wants to do this and is bragging about it, except for maybe a poster named "RichardtheFrog" who would be honest and claim he can get more attractive women this way but he got banned. It doesn't reflect society as a whole.

 

[Who Dares Win]

What about variety, convenience, and easy access to college-aged or barely legal adults when you are over 40-50 years old? You have one scenario. There are other guys on these "escort boards" where it seems they've got everything together, the have wives that love and put out for them and then they engage in this hobby because it is convenient, discreet and offers variety. The point I was making is a narrow focus board so you are going to get the impression about the type of people who use escorts (i.e. single and can't get laid because they are incel, or nearcel on a dry-spell, low-tier normies that puke if a lady is less than hb5, betabuxes who have wives that hate them who can't get laid). People on this board are either Chads/Chadlites or upper/mid tier normies, where it's a shame and waste to use an escort, or really can't get laid with an "acceptable looking hb" unless they use an escort. Nobody here actually wants to do this and is bragging about it, except for maybe a poster named "RichardtheFrog" who would be honest and claim he can get more attractive women this way but he got banned. It doesn't reflect society as a whole.

In my experience most married men in their 50s lie to their wifes to have reasons to stay away from home, not exactly the case of the loving supporting family you mention.

However I dont believe that those hitting escorts are only men looking for variety, there is a strong portion of sex starved men that dont qualify to access sex unless they decide to take a post wall woman and as we all know nowadays is the crappiest deal possible.

A guy in his 20s shorter than average and not particularly good looking is basically cut out of any action.

So I would say many men use escorts to bang younger hotter girls than those available to them while many more other use low tier ones just to blow some...steam.

 

[corrector]

In my experience most married men in their 50s lie to their wifes to have reasons to stay away from home, not exactly the case of the loving supporting family you mention.

Of course they are lying to their wives, but it reflects a fault in the guy's character, not the wife. Just because a guy has a wife that loves him doesn't mean that he wants to stay home all the time. Guys who have a loving and supporting family can may like to stay away from home.

At the end of the day it's a man's convictions about what's right, and if he's really saved, that guides this type of thing. I have been in these escort boards years ago so I remember reading posts of what appears to be guys who have a healthy home life but do this thing as a hobby.
I think its disgusting. What I disagree with is the stigma attached that some sex-starved guys are using this because they can't get sex for free. It's weird that when something is morally reprehensible and disgusting then it is not an actual stigma, but when it is something out of need on some level, then it becomes a stigma. You are not a real man because you can't access sex for free and had to resort to that making one a loser. I really think it's the "happily married" guy doing this that's a loser because he can't appreciate what he has enough to go there.

However I dont believe that those hitting escorts are only men looking for variety, there is a strong portion of sex starved men that dont qualify to access sex unless they decide to take a post wall woman and as we all know nowadays is the crappiest deal possible.

I did not mention MTGOWS, but this board is likely populated disproportionately with guys who may feel this way. I can see there is a stigma attached because this board will likely view MTGOWS as losers or "incels-in-denial" or if they are dating for sex, they would get it for free right? So, I would't get the impression that there is a large MTGOW group visiting hookers, but one can get this impression by this board because of the type of people this board tends to attract.

If you are a MTGOW then there is no such thing as free sex anyway. A hooker is just another type of arrangement, no different than any other woman. In fact, those types, MTGOW, may see the exchange is more fair based on the ROI than a postwall woman, or even way cheaper to the point that it "feels" like its free compared to dealing with a postwall woman or betabuxxing a wife.

Even if you had "free sex" there is always a legal risk that a woman could turn on you and cry rape, so it's not really free if there is such a risk. She can stalk you afterwards, think you are her boyfriend and you can't get rid of her, show up at your job, etc.... There is always a risk.

I guess at the end of the day is two questions which I guess is why I threw a wrench into this:

1) Is there such a real thing as "free sex"
2) Is there a stigma attached that only losers visit hookers, or is it regular guys from all walks of life?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Of course they are lying to their wives, but it reflects a fault in the guy's character, not the wife. Just because a guy has a wife that loves him doesn't mean that he wants to stay home all the time. Guys who have a loving and supporting family can may like to stay away from home.

At the end of the day it's a man's convictions about what's right, and if he's really saved, that guides this type of thing. I have been in these escort boards years ago so I remember reading posts of what appears to be guys who have a healthy home life but do this thing as a hobby.
I think its disgusting. What I disagree with is the stigma attached that some sex-starved guys are using this because they can't get sex for free. It's weird that when something is morally reprehensible and disgusting then it is not an actual stigma, but when it is something out of need on some level, then it becomes a stigma. You are not a real man because you can't access sex for free and had to resort to that making one a loser. I really think it's the "happily married" guy doing this that's a loser because he can't appreciate what he has enough to go there.



I did not mention MTGOWS, but this board is likely populated disproportionately with guys who may feel this way. I can see there is a stigma attached because this board will likely view MTGOWS as losers or "incels-in-denial" or if they are dating for sex, they would get it for free right? So, I would't get the impression that there is a large MTGOW group visiting hookers, but one can get this impression by this board because of the type of people this board tends to attract.

If you are a MTGOW then there is no such thing as free sex anyway. A hooker is just another type of arrangement, no different than any other woman. In fact, those types, MTGOW, may see the exchange is more fair based on the ROI than a postwall woman, or even way cheaper to the point that it "feels" like its free compared to dealing with a postwall woman or betabuxxing a wife.

Even if you had "free sex" there is always a legal risk that a woman could turn on you and cry rape, so it's not really free if there is such a risk. She can stalk you afterwards, think you are her boyfriend and you can't get rid of her, show up at your job, etc.... There is always a risk.

I guess at the end of the day is two questions which I guess is why I threw a wrench into this:

1) Is there such a real thing as "free sex"
2) Is there a stigma attached that only losers visit hookers, or is it regular guys from all walks of life?

If she desired you. Didn't want money or resources. And she wanted to fvck you it didn't have a cost.

Nowadays they can remember things from 10 or 20 yrs ago. A consentual situation flipped around.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

Looking to buy sex? Welcome to John School

DAYTON — A couple of the guys look like college students who could be spending their money on dates.

www.daytondailynews.com

my opinion: Laws against prostitution (i.e., without allowing a "red zone" where it is legal) are purely a gynocentric meme. I would love for a local/state pol to say that he will vote to allow legal prostitution. Perhaps the exponential growth of inceldom will create a political base for this.

"liked" your opinion, not unread article

 

[corrector]

Not to mention that many countries in Europe legalize women selling sex and only criminalize men buying it.

Include Canada on this list. They made it illegal to buy here on December 6, 2014. How do I know? I panic bought a couple of prostitutes all within 48 hours before the law came into effect after doing extensive research when it was still technically legal to buy, and then felt the Conservative government was unintentionally partially to blame for this panic buying by artificially creating product scarcity at the last minute in a legal sense.

It turns out that I was incorrect on understanding how they would enforce this law. It's not like you are going to get a bunch of Stormtroopers out to mass arrest johns, lol! The police ended up focusing on real cases of human trafficking and sexual exploitation rather than going on a witch-hunt and the panic rental premise came apart.

I'm still baffled at my reasoning of panic buying. I mean, we did just have a covid pandemic (up here in Canada it's ebbed down) and there was panic buying for essential stuff at the groceries, but I wasn't thinking of panic buying any woman. This is because covid didn't create scarcity in my mind. It turns out any scarcity was just in my mind and the premise of any panic buying was wrong. The only other bad panic buying decision I made in the past was bad stocks from the stock market I thought were going to go up.

Talk about systematic discrimination. Prostitution should be legal, maybe even we should so they cant unionize, and that they can only charge so much so that all men can afford it, and even give poor men a credit that government funded, like food stamps. Men are entitled to sex. It's a need. It would solve a lot of problems in society. Those poor guys who can't get sex, they're probably so depressed, it's inhuman.

Besides consent has nothing to do with attraction or desire. Plenty of prostitutes have sex with men they don't desire for money.

Again, legality or illegality is only on the books. The enforcement of law is what makes the law real. How is it enforced in those Western European countries?