Narcissism vs Lust

[Pandora]

Men: Our lust is our greatest enemy. We get a decent girl that treats us like a king....the only issue is that her looks is 2pts below our SMV. Her body is meh and her face is ehhh. She is a 5.5/10 and we are a 7.5/10. We are secretly dissatisfied and we dump her. We are thinking maybe we can do better. This is ultimately a problem of lust and ego.


Woman: She gets tons of attention. She knows she is an 7/10 but gets dozens of date offers a week. She meets a really cool nice guy who likes her and treats her like a queen. She likes him.....but the only problem is that he is only a 7/10 and she believe she deserves the 9/10 Chad she slept with last month. She is openly dissatisfied and ghosts him. Maybe she can do better. This is ultimately a problem of narcissism and ego.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Every guy has been in the above scenario. We are less guilty of this than women are but we are still guilty nonetheless. We have all let a decent girl slip away because she wasn't quite up to our physical standards. Then we complain of SS about girls being trash.

 

[Pandora]

The ONLY way a relationship will work for a guy in the United States in 2020 is if the girl is atleast a couple points below your SMV. She has to KNOW that you are better than her. She has to KNOW that she can not do better than you.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

The ONLY way a relationship will work for a guy in the United States in 2020 is if the girl is atleast a couple points below your SMV. She has to KNOW that you are better than her. She has to KNOW that she can not do better than you.

the colourful drake and drab hen in bird parlance

 

[Pandora]

the colourful drake and drab hen in bird parlance

Can you explain lol

 

[Lynx nkaf]

Can you explain lol

lol I'll try to find a google image: pictures are worth a thousand words

 

[Pandora]

lol I'll try to find a google image: pictures are worth a thousand words View attachment 4351

makes sense now lol...

 

[Pandora]

Porn has degraded male standards imo...too high. I mean you know my girlfriends
.... They'll look like pornstars but then I'm dissatisfied with the normal ones...

Same here. I am a big believer of blaming yourself first. The external world reflects your internal world. Men should take accountability for their situations. We should not blame women without also reflecting on our own behaviors. To be masculine is to be able to confront our issues. Women live in delusion. Not men. Women are crappy because men are crappy. They are a direct reflection of us. We let them control us via lust.

Imagine if every man settles for the homely looking girl with a heart of Gold...we won't not have these issues. Us men have put sexuality over good behavior and this is the result.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Porn has degraded male standards imo...too high. I mean you know my girlfriends
.... They'll look like pornstars but then I'm dissatisfied with the normal ones...

I hardly ever view porn in my 40s, but when I do, it's usually a REAL couple, maybe even newlyweds. I never watch 'staged' porn, so it really wouldn't even be called porn. I don't care how grainy it is but just hearing the way the wife/girlfriend calls her boyfriend's name (you can already tell how their relationship is - superficial or at a distance). I can relate to having been fvcked (or having a woman have me fvck her) that way. She's like a beast, wild, long hair. When ramming her from behind you are both in your rightful place in the relational dynamic, she submissive, you dominant, you own it, you own her pvssy - if no one is cheating, of course (which I think, in due time, someone will, either married or not, at least in this day n' age).

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Same here. I am a big believer of blaming yourself first. The external world reflects your internal world. Men should take accountability for their situations. We should not blame women without also reflecting on our own behaviors. To be masculine is to be able to confront our issues. Women live in delusion. Not men. Women are crappy because men are crappy. They are a direct reflection of us. We let them control us via lust.

Imagine if every man settles for the homely looking girl with a heart of Gold...we won't not have these issues. Us men have put sexuality over good behavior and this is the result.

Put looks. Homely girl with heart of gold might fvck you way better.

 

[Kotaix]

I've been considering this for a while now myself. You can go get a hotter woman, but the hotter she is, the more likely you are to lose her.

I find a good woman to be more valuable than a hot but crazy woman. Sure you won't get the bro points for having arm candy, but having a woman primarily for that purpose is in itself doomed to failure in the end

 

[HyenaPrince]

Same here. I am a big believer of blaming yourself first. The external world reflects your internal world. Men should take accountability for their situations. We should not blame women without also reflecting on our own behaviors. To be masculine is to be able to confront our issues. Women live in delusion. Not men. Women are crappy because men are crappy. They are a direct reflection of us. We let them control us via lust.

Imagine if every man settles for the homely looking girl with a heart of Gold...we won't not have these issues. Us men have put sexuality over good behavior and this is the result.

You are mixing up cause and effect here. You're right in that many men dump "good" girls because they want hotter iron. Women do the same thing. Okay let's hold on to this for later.

But women are hypergamous and especially polygamous by nature. Same with men, without the hypergamy part. Only the lower-ranking males had to deal with monogamy. The alphas and leaders of the group could f*ck around and impregnate as many females as possible. When semen enters a woman's body, she is automatically less receptive to other men. It literally influences her behavior. Those proteins modify her genes even before getting pregnant.

So it's not about being crappy, but more about our genes that make us frenemies. The female body invents new ways to protect itself against the male sperms over a span of hundreds of thousands of years, depending on which time frame of the evolution you're looking at. How weird is that?

Females and males find each other attractive so there is a motivational aspect for both parties to engage in a sexual relationship. It's all about intrasexual- and intersexual selection. Women advertize reproductive value with their bodies and men advertize social dominance. Women are way more valuable when it comes to reproduction. If no one but 1000 men and 1 woman survive on this planet, you still can only create one baby at a time. Reverse the roles and you get 1000 babies from one man (ignore his actual ability to do this).

Hotter women will always feel entitled to treat men who enable that kind of behavior like sh*t. The problem is: who started the enabling process? Is it their biological and sexual trap setting? Or is it our weakness for hot b*tches? Because one thing I know: you could be the baddest motherf*cker and check off all the alpha points, but yet the woman would find another, subjectively better target.

 

[AttackFormation]

You are mixing up cause and effect here. You're right in that many men dump "good" girls because they want hotter iron. Women do the same thing. Okay let's hold on to this for later.

But women are hypergamous and especially polygamous by nature. Same with men, without the hypergamy part. Only the lower-ranking males had to deal with monogamy. The alphas and leaders of the group could f*ck around and impregnate as many females as possible. When semen enters a woman's body, she is automatically less receptive to other men. It literally influences her behavior. Those proteins modify her genes even before getting pregnant.

So it's not about being crappy, but more about our genes that make us frenemies. The female body invents new ways to protect itself against the male sperms over a span of hundreds of thousands of years, depending on which time frame of the evolution you're looking at. How weird is that?

Females and males find each other attractive so there is a motivational aspect for both parties to engage in a sexual relationship. It's all about intrasexual- and intersexual selection. Women advertize reproductive value with their bodies and men advertize social dominance. Women are way more valuable when it comes to reproduction. If no one but 1000 men and 1 woman survive on this planet, you still can only create one baby at a time. Reverse the roles and you get 1000 babies from one man (ignore his actual ability to do this).

Hotter women will always feel entitled to treat men who enable that kind of behavior like sh*t. The problem is: who started the enabling process? Is it their biological and sexual trap setting? Or is it our weakness for hot b*tches? Because one thing I know: you could be the baddest motherf*cker and check off all the alpha points, but yet the woman would find another, subjectively better target.

Got any sources for that stuff about sperm influencing womens' behavior/genes?

 

[HyenaPrince]

Got any sources for that stuff about sperm influencing womens' behavior/genes?

Semen has controlling power over female genes and behaviour | New Scientist

Seminal fluid alters gene expression in females, including humans. It can even alter behaviour in fruit flies, but does it do the same in women?

www.newscientist.com

 

[lamath]

Semen has controlling power over female genes and behaviour | New Scientist

Seminal fluid alters gene expression in females, including humans. It can even alter behaviour in fruit flies, but does it do the same in women?

www.newscientist.com

Interesting stuff..........funny how sexual selection is also a competition between male and female.
Its an individualistic gene reproduction game.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

Interesting stuff..........funny how sexual selection is also a competition between male and female.
Its an individualistic gene reproduction game.

Yes! You're right.

Superb conclusion man.

 

[HyenaPrince]

Interesting stuff..........funny how sexual selection is also a competition between male and female.
Its an individualistic gene reproduction game.

100% correct. It's extremely fascinating.

 

[Lookatu]

Imagine if every man settles for the homely looking girl with a heart of Gold...we won't not have these issues. Us men have put sexuality over good behavior and this is the result.

I'm going to admit that I felt I "settled" but in return it's turned out to be a very good life for me and I get treated like a king as my wife has natural beauty(plain by some standards), low maintenance, and does have a heart of gold.

Looks fade so as long as her mother looks decent for her age, she has a heart of gold, selfless and non-narcissistic, she takes care of herself. These are good traits to look for in a LTR.

The number one flaw for us guys is that we are all visual creatures and want the best looking women. But once again, this is a temporary mirage as looks will fade over time if you plan on spending any great length of time with her. You gotta get past the looks and see what other redeeming qualities she has.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

I'm going to admit that I felt I "settled" but in return it's turned out to be a very good life for me and I get treated like a king as my wife has natural beauty(plain by some standards), low maintenance, and does have a heart of gold.

Looks fade so as long as her mother looks decent for her age, she has a heart of gold, selfless and non-narcissistic, she takes care of herself. These are good traits to look for in a LTR.

The number one flaw for us guys is that we are all visual creatures and want the best looking women. But once again, this is a temporary mirage as looks will fade over time if you plan on spending any great length of time with her. You gotta get past the looks and see what other redeeming qualities she has.

Congrats Lookatu, wtg.

 

[Pandora]

I'm going to admit that I felt I "settled" but in return it's turned out to be a very good life for me and I get treated like a king as my wife has natural beauty(plain by some standards), low maintenance, and does have a heart of gold.

Looks fade so as long as her mother looks decent for her age, she has a heart of gold, selfless and non-narcissistic, she takes care of herself. These are good traits to look for in a LTR.

The number one flaw for us guys is that we are all visual creatures and want the best looking women. But once again, this is a temporary mirage as looks will fade over time if you plan on spending any great length of time with her. You gotta get past the looks and see what other redeeming qualities she has.

I agree homie. I think you got the better end of the bargain. Character over looks ( to a degree).

 

[Lynx nkaf]

Interesting stuff..........funny how sexual selection is also a competition between male and female.
Its an individualistic gene reproduction game.

look at this @stormrider what do you think?