Will we have a European Union in a year from now?

[Who Dares Win]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...sels-eurozone-coronavirus-corona-bonds-latest

It was all **** and giggles till **** hit the fan for real.

Portugal's Prime Minister Antonio Costa has stunned fellow EU leaders after raising the idea of leaving the Netherlands out of EU agreements. The astonishing remarks implies that the Netherlands could be kicked out of the European Union, amid growing outrage at the coutnry's conduct in the latest coronavirus response talks. The Netherlands held up the talks after blocking demands from Italy, Spain and France for so-called 'corona-bonds' where the EU would issue joint shared debt to help finance a recovery.


https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-pandemic-europe-north-south-eurobond/

The stakes are huge. In the short term, many heavily indebted countries in Southern Europe have to deal with an economic collapse on a scale never before seen, with nearly all businesses shuttered by government order, while borrowing costs are higher than in richer countries like Germany, which limits those governments’ ability to respond to the crisis. In the longer term, what Southern Europeans see as a lack of solidarity from Germans and Dutch threatens to torpedo the entire notion of the European Union, which has been tottering since at least the last financial crisis.

 

[Who Dares Win]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492339-trump-orders-robust-assistance-package-for-italy

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...government-to-help-italy-in-coronavirus-fight

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - US President Donald Trump on Friday (April 10) ordered top US administration officials to help Italy in fighting the novel coronavirus by providing medical supplies, humanitarian relief and other assistance.

Connect it with previous facts.

 

[thinker]

@Who Dares Win I don't know about a year from now but it was doomed to fail, this latest "crisis" might be the straw that breaks the camels back.

 

[Who Dares Win]

All the foiregn powers being China and Russia smell the blood and are getting closer, the Us probably had some intel report and understood that angry countries are more likely to do things they would have not done before.

Russian militaries within a NATO country helping to population, would have been possible 3 months ago?

 

[Spaz]

It would be a shame if they do breakup, you guys should have started off with a unified military a decade ago.

Russia is just itching to go westward....right up to Poland.

 

[Who Dares Win]

It would be a shame if they do breakup, you guys should have started off with a unified military a decade ago.

Russia is just itching to go westward....right up to Poland.

Unified military? run from who exactly, do you imagine a french general taking orders from a german one or a german one sharing decisions with a spanish?

While I agree with you that full integration would have been the best option, I also imagine it would takes 100 years to happen since generations have to slowly get used to the concept of one nation.

I believe taxation is the worst obstacle, its unheard that a company pays 26% taxes in a country and 5% in an other, no fvcking wonder they all move.

At the same time certain rules are extended to every country yet only some benefit from it.

In my opinion its either full integration or a return to an economical free trade areas with many more freedom to the countries being part of it, currently its the worse of both.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Let's hope the EU crumbles.... God Bless the English for getting the ball rolling with Brexit.... And yes, I specifically salute the English because the Scotts (and I believed the Welsh also, but correct me if I'm wrong) voted to remain.....

 

[Spaz]

Unified military? run from who exactly, do you imagine a french general taking orders from a german one or a german one sharing decisions with a spanish?

While I agree with you that full integration would have been the best option, I also imagine it would takes 100 years to happen since generations have to slowly get used to the concept of one nation.

I believe taxation is the worst obstacle, its unheard that a company pays 26% taxes in a country and 5% in an other, no fvcking wonder they all move.

At the same time certain rules are extended to every country yet only some benefit from it.

In my opinion its either full integration or a return to an economical free trade areas with many more freedom to the countries being part of it, currently its the worse of both.

Size matters in terms of influence, the more fragmented they become the less benefits they get for their country and people.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Size matters in terms of influence, the more fragmented they become the less benefits they get for their country and people.

Totally agree, a unified european block could afford a proper foreign politics and economical strenght yet you cant make equal what is not equal untill it becomes equal physiologically.

 

[Spaz]

Let's hope the EU crumbles.... God Bless the English for getting the ball rolling with Brexit.... And yes, I specifically salute the English because the Scotts (and I believed the Welsh also, but correct me if I'm wrong) voted to remain.....

You hv something against Europeans?

 

[Spaz]

Totally agree, a unified european block could afford a proper foreign politics and economical strenght yet you cant make equal what is not equal untill it becomes equal physiologically.

If EU somehow manages to merge and become unified, it would be a big threat to the established economies.

Right now the next big economy coming is India.

 

[Medina]

Let's hope the EU crumbles.... God Bless the English for getting the ball rolling with Brexit.... And yes, I specifically salute the English because the Scotts (and I believed the Welsh also, but correct me if I'm wrong) voted to remain.....

Correct but even further it was actually the English Northerners who made it happen as London and the south mostly voted to remain

 

[Who Dares Win]

If EU somehow manages to merge and become unified, it would be a big threat to the established economies.

Right now the next big economy coming is India.

Well given my job you will hardly find someone who hopes for EU to survive and grow ahah.

Regarding india sure they are a big economy but their human factor is so low that it will hardly turn it into a nation we take inspiration.

Think of Russia instead, their GDP is not that higher than Italy yet their military and the cultural aternative model they offer to the rest of the europeans is enough to make it big player and a threath.

China is wealthier than russia yet their cultural model is no threat to the mainstream western one.

Correct but even further it was actually the English Northerners who made it happen as London and the south mostly voted to remain

London is british as much as the european commission is elected from the europeans.

In that city its basically southern asians and africans with some european immigrants surrounding the financial district and few native english families.