"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Why do women waste their youth being Fat?

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Something that's crossed my mind lately...

Why do women waste their youth being Fat?
Friends of mine looked great after losing their weight but now they are in their 30s.
If the girls looked great in their 20s they would've had 10X more quality guys hitting on them.

Information age, nowadays it should be easy to get the knowledge.
Process, gym memberships are cheap.

I think number one is their mind set.
Low self esteem, they've probably been fat most of their lives they don't even know how they look skinny.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Some people don't choose to be fat, it's just that they're not good at self discipline and self denial. They have deeply ingrained habits which can be hard to break. Add in some depression, and that can sap their will power.

Also, some people are more genetically predisposed to being fat than others. There are different body types. When I was that age, I could eat anything and it didn't matter, I wasn't going to get fat, my metabolism was sky high. Women's bodies also have less muscle than men, so it's more difficult for them to burn calories.
 

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The actual question is: why do people waste their youth being fat?

I was never in shape during my youth, and continually swung between being flabby to slightly heavy. For me, I simply couldn't fathom the notion that I had what it took to escape that rut. I can't imagine what I would have been like in the current environment of serious food overabundance. Or perhaps I can, as I try to help my youngest son through his continuing battle with obesity.

It wasn't until after college that I had easy access to a gym and started to use it that I saw some results. Ironically it was during that time when I also briefly grew a pair, so between being in semi-decent shape and having an air of assertiveness that I was able to attract the woman who became my ex decades later.

But it ain't just women.
 

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Because years and years of fat shaming never has the exact same effect on someone's body. Some people simply grow out of being too fat, some people go lose the weight with exercise, some people turn to "fat acceptance" to band-aid their situation and simply choose to continue living with it. The Fat Acceptance movement, much like third-wave feminism on the whole, preys on these womens' desire to belong without changing. That is why "plus size models" are being made such a big deal.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Could also be from metabolic disorders or side effects of meds they are taking. Or, it could be just that their family is fat and they have fat genes.
 

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Because years and years of fat shaming never has the exact same effect on someone's body. Some people simply grow out of being too fat, some people go lose the weight with exercise, some people turn to "fat acceptance" to band-aid their situation and simply choose to continue living with it. The Fat Acceptance movement, much like third-wave feminism on the whole, preys on these womens' desire to belong without changing. That is why "plus size models" are being made such a big deal.
Plus size and models in the same sentence is oxymoronic.
 

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Nope. Most get by on their cute face and think they’ll always be attractive. Laziness then creeps in and they become complacent. A couple girls Im talking to I tell them my workouts and how I enjoy it. Kind of hoping like hey maybe I should workout since he enjoys it so much. Hahaha.
I also believe it bleeds into other areas of their lives. If you don’t take care of yourself how do you take care of anything else?????
 

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Also could be ignorance, maybe they don't know enough about nutrition to make a good plan. Like maybe they heard nuts were healthy so they load up on nuts, but nuts are high in calories.

When I was growing up, people thought eating fats made you fat, so diet foods were high in carbs and sugar. Now they (supposedly) know better, but people are fatter now than then.

Everyone keeps talking about working out, but I really believe losing weight is more about diet. Exercise often increases your appetite.
 

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Everyone keeps talking about working out, but I really believe losing weight is more about diet. Exercise often increases your appetite.
Absolutely true, unless you have enormous discipline (like pairing exercise with 16/8 intermittent fasting), and even then your body fights back hard.

Exercise, in casual-minded people, has a rebound with both mental and physical components. The mental component is the tendency to use food as a reward for the effort spent exercising. The physical component is the very real increase in appetite that often triggers calorie consumption in excess of what the exercise burned off.

I've been through the rounds of dietitians for my son, and have a sister with a PhD in this topic. My rule of thumb is "Exercise is great! It makes you stronger, healthier, and makes you feel better! But it's an absolute loser as a weight loss strategy." I've yet to have a single person with expertise in the field disagree with that general assessment (emphasis on general).
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Some people don't choose to be fat, it's just that they're not good at self discipline and self denial. They have deeply ingrained habits which can be hard to break. Add in some depression, and that can sap their will power.

Also, some people are more genetically predisposed to being fat than others. There are different body types. When I was that age, I could eat anything and it didn't matter, I wasn't going to get fat, my metabolism was sky high. Women's bodies also have less muscle than men, so it's more difficult for them to burn calories.
Bullshvt. Fat is a choice. It’s a highly America / Western choice.
 

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Why do women waste their youth being Fat?
The same way men waste their youth watching porn.

If the girls looked great in their 20s they would've had 10X more quality guys hitting on them.
If the guys looked great in their 20s they would've had 10X more quality girls hitting on them.

I think number one is their mind set.
Low self esteem, they've probably been fat most of their lives they don't even know how they look skinny.
Guys have probably watched porn and played video games all their lives. They don’t know how to seduce.
 

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Why do people waste their life being fat is the larger question that should spill over into this discussion like the love handle blubber of a fatty in a seat build for one.
 

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Bullshvt. Fat is a choice. It’s a highly America / Western choice.
The world is not black and white.

Fat is not always a choice. Metabolisms are different from person to person. If a child has parents who are fat lazy slobs, the child will be a fat lazy slob. The child has about as much say in the matter as it does what religion it's going to follow. Children do whatever they're dragged into by their parents. And once you go fat, it's hard to go back.

But fat shaming should still exist, it's only natural to want to date and procreate with healthy women. It's the same reason men find women with short hair unattractive, long hair is an indicator of long term health (and that very much includes mental health). I find it to be almost reptilian in nature and feminism isn't going to beat evolution.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The world is not black and white.

Fat is not always a choice. Metabolisms are different from person to person. If a child has parents who are fat lazy slobs, the child will be a fat lazy slob. The child has about as much say in the matter as it does what religion it's going to follow. Children do whatever they're dragged into by their parents. And once you go fat, it's hard to go back.

But fat shaming should still exist, it's only natural to want to date and procreate with healthy women. It's the same reason men find women with short hair unattractive, long hair is an indicator of long term health (and that very much includes mental health). I find it to be almost reptilian in nature and feminism isn't going to beat evolution.
Don’t deflect. We aren’t talking about fat children with irresponsible parents. Child obesity should be considered child abuse. For adult human beings, fat is a choice. Obesity is a first world, Western epidemic. There is no excuse to be fat, period.
 

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While I agree there is little excuse for being fat, I have seen some real fat@sses in 3rd world India.

Hardly any in China until just a couple of years ago though.

Not entirely a 1st world problem.
One can find “expectations” to everything. The point is what it is... eat less and move more. Don’t be fat.
 

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most fat young girls have fat parents and also they are feed foods that cause them to be fat even if they don't want to be. Yes they could change their lives by improving their diet and exercising, but when they are bombarded with false information about how fat is ok or your beautiful as you are and feed poisonous process foods and are raised by parents that have also been feed this false information. then you are asking them to do what is almost impossible. Only the strongest individuals are capable of rising above such a massive social handicap and children, teenagers, and young adults lack the strength of character that only years of hardship can develop.
 

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Don’t deflect. We aren’t talking about fat children with irresponsible parents. Child obesity should be considered child abuse. For adult human beings, fat is a choice. Obesity is a first world, Western epidemic. There is no excuse to be fat, period.
The fatties don't want to lose weight, they've already ruined their skin and they'll never be hot unless they're really lucky. This is why they have their fat acceptance movement and the reason they make up all the excuses in the world.
 

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Simply because the negative feedbacks of being fat dont match the positive feedbacks of that candy bar and all you can eat life style.

If being fat would make them being unable to get likes on facebook and instagram while being virtually invisbile to any man in their everyday life they would at least make an effort.

Its no wonder they try to change their life style only once they are approaching the wall.

People do uncomfortable things when they are necessary to achieve a goal or to relieve pressure, think of guys wasting time and money on dates or night venues when they would rather stay home playing videogames.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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