At what age do women “hit the wall”?

[Trump]

Apparently it’s 28 in Hollywood.

Spider-Man was 26.8 years old, Elizabeth Banks was 28. She was considered a “withered old hag” to play Spiderman’s Love interest.

28-Year-Old Elizabeth Banks Was Too Much of a Withered Hag to Play Mary Jane in Spider-Man

<span>The role of the love interest ended up going to 18-year-old Kirsten Dunst.</span><span><br /><br /></span>

www.thecut.com

If this is the case, how can any childless woman over 30 have any type of attitude towards any man?

 

[Focal core]

The reality that women hit the wall at 28 is sure-real as it gets, more often overlooked by society and many many ladies over 30s often perceived they are as hot as 20ish girl, as hilarious as it may sound, the simps just never quit trying to fvcxs ém given their age and overrated looks, their beauty and glow seems to fade away, getting replace by the feminist imperative, high heels, heavy make-up's, and yeap the LEGIONS of AFC's will praise them. But In the end these ladies would not be happy least until their last breath, because its fake from the start, and it isnt real happiness, high quality matured girl knows this, they will locks up high value male at their prime -18-26th YO.

 

[Xenom0rph]

The Wall is one of the pillars of MGTOW. However as a MGTOW dude myself, i have to say that the Wall isnt as absulute as the MGTOW boys believe.

True: womens' looks fade over time and high quality men will not be attracted to her.

Also True: there will still be legions of thirsty SIMPs chasing post-wall women and thus feeding her validation addiction.

Therefore, the MGTOW boys are incorrect in thinking that the wall is karma's way of checking womens' entitlement attitude and hypergamous nature....

....the only way for the wall to have any affect on hypergamy is for SIMPs to stop feeding validation to post-wall women... And we all know that wont happen any time soon.......

 

[SoSuave666]

I think you are asking about epiphany not wall. If so, epiphany phase happens between 26-29. Once they’ve hit 30 they are basically undatable.
Anyway it’s not that their looks have deteriorated or anything. Maybe that’s the case I dunno. It’s more the mental state. At that age they realize they can’t compete anymore and want to find a man who will take care of them forever. They want a beta. Don’t be that ****ing beta.

 

[thinker]

The wall is generally at 30 but some women hit it sooner and some hit it later. A big part of that depends on how they have been taking care of themselves. Elizabeth Banks is an actress so you have to ask yourself how much drugs , booze, **** and other things has she run through herself, not to mention that she is a feminist nut burger. With that history she hit the wall early not just in hollywood but in real life as well.

 

[Infern0]

The wall is just bitter cope.

Compare Tobey Mcguire mentioned in this thread now to Kristen Davis in couples retreat. Same age, who hit the wall.

Yes women don't look as good at 40 as they do at 20 this is not a surprise. Some age better than others, same as Brendan Frazier and The Rock.

Does it benefit you to think about that and cackle with glee about it? Or is that redundant ego stroking?

Personally I don't waste my time on women of low quality who I don't actually like or care about or respect. And I'm not going to laugh at a woman who fills the above quota because the natural aging process happened to her.

 

[zekko]

I'm not going to laugh at a woman who fills the above quota because the natural aging process happened to her.

Agreed, every single person gets old, unless they die first. There's your choices.

Elizabeth Banks is still attractive at 45 IMO. But she was a real stunner when she was younger. Life goes on. You adapt, or you die.

 

[Who Dares Win]

No woman complains when in high school based tv series the director hires 18 years old girls and 25 years old guys cause they LOOK more manly and handsome to play the part of high schoolers.

 

[Hal9000]

I don't totally disagree with the concept of a wall being out there for women but pick an age (30, 40, 50, etc) and you'll find a ton more attractive women than you will men. That means women are always going to have more options than their male equivalent of the same age. Just because she may have hit a wall and can't bag any guy she wants, it doesn't mean she is going grab any guy that comes along out of desperation.

 

[Mike32ct]

An older woman might even lose cougar status as she ages, but she won’t be called the creepy old lady.

 

[Trump]

Does it benefit you to think about that and cackle with glee about it? Or is that redundant ego stroking?

Neither.

But obviously a man would treat a 27 year much different than a 37 year old.

And I'm not going to laugh at a woman who fills the above quota because the natural aging process happened to her.

Neither will I.

Not proud of it and I’m not young either, but when I look at women above 37, I think “I cannot get attracted to you with that face.” Where were you when you were 27?

 

[Poonani Maker]

My hair seems to be reverting back to a dark blond from what had appeared to be more graying - a reversal. It could be my diet my exercise shampoo who knows I don't die it. Women are commenting on my "cool" shades of color in my hair, I Did have a different stylist cut it while out of town 2 weeks ago, I could tell it was cut different (tapered differently?) and it has scored me unsolicited points from female interests (one I've already fvcked but mom of 2 in her 30s blah). My looks seem to be accelerating for the better almost mid-40s, like better than my late 30s because I didn't ever exercise which is stupid. I got the V look now through my clothes and definitely naked.

So I agree with 28 being wall for females. Their bodies just looks less shapely/more saggy/more board-like after that. I still have a great as5 and hard untatted/unpierced body at pushin mid-40s. I'm sure it's all downhill for me but I feel kinda prime now as long as I workout Every day. I know a dude (rich too) in his 50s who's just ripped (he works out in his home gym too) and he's very aggressive/testosterone edgy and kinda an as5hole due to his abundance of man-energy I can't even banter with him or play or kid around much cause so serious but he looks good and has a decent wife though definitely post-wall.

 

[bcude]

I don't totally disagree with the concept of a wall being out there for women but pick an age (30, 40, 50, etc) and you'll find a ton more attractive women than you will men. That means women are always going to have more options than their male equivalent of the same age. Just because she may have hit a wall and can't bag any guy she wants, it doesn't mean she is going grab any guy that comes along out of desperation.

This can't be true since women peak at their SMV (and options) around 23 and men much later in life. If your statement were to be true then why does post wall women try to shame men into submission with social conventions like 'man up', 'grow up and take your responsibility', 'you must have a fragile ego since you're dating younger girls'? Because their circumstance necessitates it.

Just because she may have hit a wall and can't bag any guy she wants, it doesn't mean she is going grab any guy that comes along out of desperation.

This is true and why we see so many crazy-cay-ladies and newly converted lesbians that have given up.

 

[ubercat]

It's not a wall it's more like a thermal layer. The layer is patchy in places and deeper. Below they have ridiculous power over men with their biology.

Above the men they want are subtle and more experienced. Basically harder prey. And their powers have waned so they are more tactical.

The good women of that age pick their shots and remain celibate otherwise. Because they are screening harder social circle game is more prevalent. The trashy ones ride the carousel and scratch that itch with anybody who acts manly and walks by.

 

[Shrubber101]

If they're married and are having/had children, they don't hit the wall becouse they're not in the market and instead theyre doing what nature intended, which is raising a family.
They're attractiveness to men is irrelevant.
If they're still childless and single when they're still fertil then they will eventually hit the wall but that's their own fault.
It's our job as men to lead them back onto the right path, get them back in the home and raising and nurturing the next generation. When we get back to old fashioned values. THERE WILL BE NO wall.

 

[RickTheToad]

If a lady eats right, doesn't do drugs, moderately exercises and doesn't fvck random dudes, they can push the wall off into their 40's. Want proof? Come to NYC area. I hear LA is similiar.

 

[thinker]

@Infern0 the wall doesn't mean that a women turns into an ugly gremlin it simply means that they don't have the same attractiveness as they did when they were younger. I have some exes that are in their 40's and are still very beautiful , they all look much younger than what they are but can they compete with the younger women of today not as well as they use to and can they compete with the younger versions of themselves nope and I say this as a man who dated them when they were younger and is still in contact with them today. I care for these women if I didn't I would not allow them to still be in my life, they treat me well so I have kept them in my life after the romantic relationships were over I still value them and bring value to their lives as they still value me and bring value into my life to me they will always be beautiful but I cannot say with a straight face that they haven't lost a noticeable part of their beauty. The guys that gleefully enjoy the thought of women hitting the wall need to leave that idea and focus on bettering their lives. If anything I don't get pleasure from women hitting the wall I actually feel bad for them but it isn't my responsibility or the responsibility of any man to save women from their own choices.

 

[corrector]

The age where they can no longer naturally have children or, if they can, to functionally be able to be a mother. Most people want to marry to start a family and have at least one or two children to have a sense of purpose and to fit in society. If they can't offer children then that defeats the purpose of marriage for allot of guys and she's no longer really considered marriage material. The way I see it, the guy is always marriage material as long as he can support himself and his wife (and potential children) so a guy can't really hit a wall that way, he can just go broke, or hit a financial wall, but not an age wall. Apart from that, if we talk about the general market, then it's a market that doesn't count for much since women are still stigmatized if they sleep around too much and not taken seriously.

 

[Poonani Maker]

The age where they can no longer naturally have children or, if they can, to functionally be able to be a mother. Most people want to marry to start a family and have at least one or two children to have a sense of purpose and to fit in society. If they can't offer children then that defeats the purpose of marriage for allot of guys and she's no longer really considered marriage material. The way I see it, the guy is always marriage material as long as he can support himself and his wife (and potential children) so a guy can't really hit a wall that way, he can just go broke, or hit a financial wall, but not an age wall. Apart from that, if we talk about the general market, then it's a market that doesn't count for much since women are still stigmatized if they sleep around too much and not taken seriously.

reproduction is more dire than survival for most humans, as long as their genes get forwarded, their life's purpose has been fulfilled, BUT of course, there's been countless men (Civil War, WWI, WWII, various other Holodomor, various other childhood deaths greater in the past) who've never got to spread on their seed. WE are currently undergoing a Genocide (doesn't have to be "violent) by the powers that be breaking apart the family unleashing filth for entertainment gayifying our youth, on and on poison beyond outright killing, thus many men's lineages are being ended as we speak

 

[bcude]

There is no specific age where women hit 'the wall'.
It's the moment where she painfully realises that the male attention she once got in her prime years now nowhere is to be seen, it's the moment where she realises she will have to settle for the beta provider under the rationalization that she now "matured" and now knows what she really wants out of life.

They're all very aware of it and know it's coming, they just don't realise they've hit the wall until they're on the other side.