"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Are Incels really lower T than chads?

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You don't see chads threatening mass violence, being constantly angry attacking everyone around them who don't head nod along constantly.

Chads aren't going to gun ranges, purchasing weapons etc to specifically rebel and look for retribution.

Chads T gets drained from all the stacies he gets to calm his roid rage. Like King Kong the savage being sedated by the chick in the movie beauty.

Incels have no release for their high T. No gym, no women. Only being angry 24/7, frustrated, and waiting to strike and explode.

So how are incels lower T?
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You don't see chads threatening mass violence, being constantly angry attacking everyone around them who don't head nod along constantly.

Chads aren't going to gun ranges, purchasing weapons etc to specifically rebel and look for retribution.

Chads T gets drained from all the stacies he gets to calm his roid rage. Like King Kong the savage being sedated by the chick in the movie beauty.

Incels have no release for their high T. No gym, no women. Only being angry 24/7, frustrated, and waiting to strike and explode.

So how are incels lower T?
T actually calms you unless your a natural azz. Estrogenic behavior is unstable more flighty and emotional.
 

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I think Chads had higher T in the womb, so their facial features (like hunter eyes) developed differently. Incels developed with lower T.

If the incels have higher T later in life (as you suggest), that is plausible. But it’s too late for it to materially affect their looks.
 

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An argument can be made that men with higher T levels are more motivated to chase skirt, but as it applies to the names Chad or Incel it would likely be too specific and simple because it applies only to the physical T aspect and discounts the mans mental state and personality …
 

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feh, if the only problem was the person pretty sure they could ahve sone something by now, also if was a simple problem it wouldn't be a problem at all
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sexual frustration and blaming and lashing out at others for one's own inadequacies isn't masculine behavior. I'm sure that incels have higher T-levels than females, but pretty low for human adults males.
Until that "low T" mows down a few dozen. High T chad included.

Chad's high T will have him hiding in a closet.
 

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Mindset is important. We must change our mindset through actions that improve ourselves. Gym, style, being social, etc.

Your mind will correct your hormone balance unless you have health issues.
 

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I don't know about "Chads", but what about the guys who say that death row inmates are highly attractive to females because they're so alpha? That would suggest a high T count, I would think.

There's another train of thought that says Chads don't really chase women, the women chase them. So if you buy into that scenario, it's probably the incels who are doing more approaching (unsuccessfully). Also in that theory is that approaching is feminine and non-masculine.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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There's another train of thought that says Chads don't really chase women, the women chase them. So if you buy into that scenario, it's probably the incels who are doing more approaching (unsuccessfully). Also in that theory is that approaching is feminine and non-masculine.
As expected of an intellectual to remember what's said in the forum.

While that's true (with what you posted) its also a fallacy - it's not reserved for Chad's but to all and any kind of men provided they have certain traits to complement their inherent traits, with masculinity and leadership being at the top.

Would you agree that the difference between intelligence and wisdom would be intelligence comes from learning through reading and wisdom comes from experience?
 

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While that's true (with what you posted) its also a fallacy - it's not reserved for Chad's but to all and any kind of men provided they have certain traits to complement their inherent traits, with masculinity and leadership being at the top.

Would you agree that the difference between intelligence and wisdom would be intelligence comes from learning through reading and wisdom comes from experience?
Well, women (in general) will chase any sort of attractive guy, under the right circumstances. Doesn't have to be a Chad, so I agree with you there.

I wouldn't limit intelligence to be only something you can learn through reading, however.
 

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And then we have constant abuse of watching porn. Try walking around with high T levels fapping like a maniac everyday. It's just not possible. Incels don't have higher levels of T, incels are way more frustrated and that is dangerous.
 
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