The Double Standard........

[DariusTheBartender]

Ok so I dumped my FWB today... and slept with another one 4 hours later..... Before this occurred I was at happy hour with my buddy... and brought up why the FWB wasn't going to go anywhere, and I cited her sexual history.... I KNOW I AM THROWING STONES AT GLASS HOUSES, or maybe even launching air strikes on glass houses.... but what is the reality??? I think some good men have been around the block, but guys here, we have been around the world. I've had sex personally in 23 countries.... I am MUCH MUCH MUCH more accepting now of a girls past... but still to an extent.... is this a double standard???? Or.... is the following true:

A key that unlocks any door is a master key, but a lock that accepts every key is a pretty ****ty lock.

Part of me believes we are all animals, but maybe it's the old blue pill that thinks a good chick shouldn't be too much of a wild animal. Or if she was at least don't bring it up to me and tell me the details. Anyway.... feel good that the last girl I slept with now was not the FWB I was getting a little attached to.

 

[backseatjuan]

If you dating your age, great sexual past is to be expected. Count 4 per year on average since the age of 17. Because I just can't phantom a woman that dates 1 guy half a year, then breaks up, then finds another guy and dates him for another half a year, and so on. She'd fck several guys before dumping that one dude, so 4 per year is fair to me. It's even lower of what it probably is. 4 times 10 is 40, so she'd fck 40 dudes in her twenties and another 40 in her thirties, that's 80 already.

 

[AttackFormation]

I personally don't care, I don't expect women to live in celibacy and I'm not a tradcon. Especially when I get off the internet and actually interact in real life is when I care the least. What I do care about is that she's mentally and emotionally healthy, and feels desire and respect for me as a man.

But you'll have to introspect and feel it out yourself.

If you really need to live a blue pill fantasy, you could always do what many guys do and simply tell yourself it's true when she says she "doesn't usually do this", "you are her first/tenth/etc", "she's not that kind of girl", "she made all of her guys wait for sex because she's a proper woman", "a good man pays" and so on. Many guys with a tradcon inclination would rather live a lie than accept and flourish in reality and that may work for you too.

 

[Epic Days]

Undecided at this point

 

[backseatjuan]

Undecided at this point

My aunt is in her 70ties, born mid 40s, she’s a virgin. Can hook you up.

 

[RickTheToad]

she's mentally and emotionally healthy, and feels desire and respect

They are few and far between dude. They are there, but hard to find.

 

[Epic Days]

My aunt is in her 70ties, born mid 40s, she’s a virgin. Can hook you up.

You misunderstand. I haven't decided if it’s good for the woman of not.
I don’t do LTR, so it’s a mute point for me.

You can do your own aunt. One of mine tried to have sex with me when I was 17.

It’s been shown conclusively, that women experience sex around 9 times more pleasurable than men.

Women live from pleasure moment to pleasure moment. They will go buy a new pair of shoes and experience pleasure. It’s short lived of course but her pursuit of pleasure is a dominant drive for them. Food, especially modern food, is a jump from pleasure moment to pleasure moment. Thus the fat asse$.

But is it healthy for them? I don’t know, but it’s not my problem. Women are for connections and sex. Nothing more.

 

[zekko]

A key that unlocks any door is a master key, but a lock that accepts every key is a pretty ****ty lock.

Not only that, but women demand that their men be experienced lovers. So women are encouraging men to be hound dogs, thus the double standard. Guys are not demanding that women hone their skills on other c0cks. Well, most guys, anyway.

 

[AttackFormation]

Not only that, but women demand that their men be experienced lovers. So women are encouraging men to be hound dogs, thus the double standard. Guys are not demanding that women hone their skills on other c0cks. Well, most guys, anyway.

The lock analogy is a stupid, totally blue pilled analogy. A pvssy is not a lock, because women themselves want to have sex, even if they may not want it with you. Yes... that's right. You don't have to shell out another 200 bucks on paying for her dinner or whatever it is you tradcons/simps are doing to try bribe or manipulate her into having sex with you... she has her own sex drive, her pvssy is not a lock. She actually wants sex herself, yes that's right, and if she wants it with you she will have it with you.

Come on guys... at this rate you'll get called in for blue pill poisoning if you don't stop having them for breakfast every fvcking day.

They are few and far between dude. They are there, but hard to find.

Yeah, like your d!ck? hahaha, I had to get back at you.

 

[Epic Days]

You can show a woman the ropes or you can get one who is sexually competent.

Name your poison. One you show the ropes to will eventually want to experience other men. Seen it many times. Too many to count.
Women live for pleasure moments.

 

[zekko]

The lock analogy is a stupid, totally blue pilled analogy. A pvssy is not a lock, because women themselves want to have sex, even if they may not want it with you.

Of course women want to have sex. I've always mainly just looked at the lock analogy as meaning the lock has a hole and the key is inserted into. But the reality for most men is that the more chaste the woman is, the more valuable she is (all else being equal). A woman who prefers to wait for the right "key" is rare, obviously, but that just increases her value. Meanwhile, the town bike's value is zero. Is a crack wh0re just as desirable as a woman who doesn't slvt herself out for every penis that comes her way? Of course not. I don't see anything blue pilled about that.

 

[DariusTheBartender]

Hell no... Didn't just dump her for this. She had 87 other red flags. Just made me think of this topic as well.

 

[Alvafe]

you allready closed the topic you opned with the key/ padlock tell

again I will repeat, if a woman yell in the mid of the street she want to ****, guys will pop from hell, and even organize a line if she will do anyone, if a guy do the same he will be luck if 2 or 3 gay guys show up

 

[Epic Days]

Most guys on Sosuave will tell you if you bang a virgin and you have good frame she'll be yours forever, because she can pair bond easier. I'm skeptical.

I do think it's a myth that inexperienced women are not sexually competent. Sex isn't that hard to figure out.

Really what this is all about is that monogamy is unnatural and people are going to fukk around.

I agree with much of that. It’s garbage that she will be yours forever. Incredibly ignorant.

Which is why, lately I have been re-thinking the idea that she can’t pair bond if she has too many partners. Now if she sleeps with men to solve all her life’s troubles then she will never stop.

Inexperience is two fold. Self image pertaining to her body. Women are already naturally insecure. As she gets more experience, she gets validation that she is good at it. Until she reaches this point, yes, she is inexperienced.

All I know about monogamy is that I have not observed that it leads to a happy life, long term.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

How do you dump a fwb? Haven't you ever heard of ghosting?

 

[Epic Days]

How do you dump a fwb? Haven't you ever heard of ghosting?

Exactly what I do.

 

[AttackFormation]

Of course women want to have sex. I've always mainly just looked at the lock analogy as meaning the lock has a hole and the key is inserted into. But the reality for most men is that the more chaste the woman is, the more valuable she is (all else being equal). A woman who prefers to wait for the right "key" is rare, obviously, but that just increases her value. Meanwhile, the town bike's value is zero. Is a crack wh0re just as desirable as a woman who doesn't slvt herself out for every penis that comes her way? Of course not. I don't see anything blue pilled about that.

I agree that on an instinctive emotional level, given all else is somehow equal, a woman who fvcks indiscriminately feels less desirable for commitment. Personally though it's not so much the sex but the indiscriminate part, but I understand if some guys might feel differently. That first part is actually why to me hobby alcoholism is a red flag.

But how many otherwise attractive women, even if they have a lot of sex, fvck guys indiscriminately? it's mostly a caricature of reality. How many women who you otherwise attractive and really pleasant to be with have you turned down because of the sex she's had? How indiscriminate she is will correlate with her mental and emotional health and alcohol use which are things you want to watch out for anyway. Case in point:

Hell no... Didn't just dump her for this. She had 87 other red flags. Just made me think of this topic as well.

And even if she does, it's still out of her own motivation... that's important because when guys don't understand that is when they will start spouting that you need to "make" a woman want to have sex with you, like a key must "make" a lock open, with the right "input" (simping/PUA tactics). Then you get all the threads here splitting hairs over why this or that text didn't "work" or why she flaked or didn't have sex with him even though he did everything "right" and so on. Thinking of pvssies as locks rather than living creatures begging you to enter them if they want you, sets you up to think that way.

Either we can complain about it being too hard/too many BS hoops to have sex with women today or we can complain that it's too easy for too many men to have sex with too many women. But what I see now although from different people is that we're complaining about both simultaneously which doesn't make sense, in an objective sense they can't both be true.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Exactly what I do.

Ep mate, i swear common sense is not so common.

 

[devilkingx2]

As I see it, a high body count is a symptom not a disease, people often mistake it for a disease when in actuality it all depends on why.

If she's 35 and has ****ed one guy a year since she was 14, she would have a number of 20+, yet it would be absurd to say ****ing one person a year makes you a slvt. That's borderline incel.

If she just really likes sex, she might have a high body count for that reason alone, what's wrong with that? Sounds like a perfect girl to me.

But if she has unresolved issues or some kinda mental illness, that high body count stems from her inner demons you want to stay far away from

Obviously if she has some sort of addiction whether drugs/alcohol or something more esoteric like shopping or gambling and that feeds her promiscuity (lets say she has a ton of sugar daddies or is an expensive escort on the side) that is its own can of worms.

If she simply doesn't like commitment and sticks to flings, FWBs, casual dating and such then if you're trying to turn her into a housewife you're screwed but if you just want to have fun with her for 3-6 months it's no problem.

Etc. So don't forget to evaluate the why, body count itself isn't a deal breaker.

 

[AttackFormation]

As I see it, a high body count is a symptom not a disease, people often mistake it for a disease when in actuality it all depends on why.

If she's 35 and has ****ed one guy a year since she was 14, she would have a number of 20+, yet it would be absurd to say ****ing one person a year makes you a slvt. That's borderline incel.

If she just really likes sex, she might have a high body count for that reason alone, what's wrong with that? Sounds like a perfect girl to me.

But if she has unresolved issues or some kinda mental illness, that high body count stems from her inner demons you want to stay far away from

Obviously if she has some sort of addiction whether drugs/alcohol or something more esoteric like shopping or gambling and that feeds her promiscuity (lets say she has a ton of sugar daddies or is an expensive escort on the side) that is its own can of worms.

If she simply doesn't like commitment and sticks to flings, FWBs, casual dating and such then if you're trying to turn her into a housewife you're screwed but if you just want to have fun with her for 3-6 months it's no problem.

Etc. So don't forget to evaluate the why, body count itself isn't a deal breaker.

Well said, I would only add that if she acts like she wants to pair bond with you then she should treat you the same way she treated the hot flings from her past who she was happy to fvck and break the rules for. To me if she makes me wait and jump through hoops, she disqualifies herself, not because I need sex immediately but because I know she sure as hell didn't make Tony do the same. She should treat you with the same desire and respect as the men from her past.

This to me is also what makes it so laughable when guys say they disqualify a woman because she had sex too quickly. She treated him like a Grade A man instead of a cuck, and they disqualify her for it? lol.