On OLD, how long before you give number out? New idea.

[biggoal]

I'm just thinking of mixing things up a bit with OLD. Usually us guys do the asking for the girls number, but with OLD is giving YOUR number out first possibly an okay strategy in allowing trust and that you're willing to give it out and let them make the move? It has worked a couple times with me.

Also in your very first message would you recommend giving it out as an option for them to contact you? I say this because they get bombarded with messages in their inbox. That way it gives them an easier way to reply.

I just figured this might increase getting more replies. I can get replies on Match but the problem is ghosting after awhile when the chit chat just keeps going back and forth. The last chick I gave my number out and she replied back that way for a date.

 

[backseatjuan]

'chit chat' don't work, gotta flirt. For her to respond there has to be attraction, and you have to be creative with your first message.

Then follow it up with SOI

The Huge List of SOI's

Ive just noticed something. How come in all these months theres still no comprehensive list of SOI's?!?!?! Im talking about Statement's Of Interest, both good and bad, that you deliver to the target, on the open or through the sarge. Lets begin You know, you are fiesty and so cute, i like...

www.theattractionforums.com

Then forget about weather, work, all that bullsht, flirt. Get her number, call her up, get her out.

There are many reasons why she might respond to you, one of the common one is that your message is not boring compared to others. But it don't mean she will mean you if there is no attraction, there has to be physical attraction. Want a badaid with physical attraction? Download FaceApp on your phone.

Trust me, they do get numbers from dudes in the first message, as a matter of fact first messages are all boring as fck, it's hello, good after noon, good morning, nice to meet you, you are so hot, wanna meet, here is my number, and pretty much it. All of that sht is boring. All dudes use OLD as a way to get her number, arrange a meet. While all girls want to know before hand if the meet will be boring as fck.

I would say no to giving her your number. That's a beta move IMO.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I would say no to giving her your number. That's a beta move IMO.

It is, I've tried it instead of asking for hers when SHE suggested "we get off here." She tucked tail and ran at my giving her my number. She may very well have researched my net worth or house (not glamorous). From now on I'm giving out a random app-created number.

 

[biggoal]

It is, I've tried it instead of asking for hers when SHE suggested "we get off here." She tucked tail and ran at my giving her my number. She may very well have researched my net worth or house (not glamorous). From now on I'm giving out a random app-created number.

That flakey HB9 it actually worked. She didn't reply back so I sent another message with a date suggestion and gave her my number instead figuring it wouldn't hurt and then that afternoon she texted me and blew my phone up for the next two days.

Why do you want to give out the app number? Privacy reason which I understand. Like on my caller ID her first and last name showed and that's how I looked up that last chick and everything checked out. With all the scammers I can understand why people don't want to give their number out right away.
Oh and on the news tonight there was a local story about an online date gone bad. A guy showed up for a date with a girl and her partner and her ended up stealing his car and running from police.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Well, I just had one (been "matched" for a week and she finally messaged me back just now) she's kinda hot, 32 yr old, she messages back "small" to my "What is [her town] like?" then I say, "I've never been south of [the big city between us]" she goes, "oh ok" so I just unmatched her. Why do millennial girls type so brain-deadly? Is it because she just not that interested even though she matched me and is messaging me? She only gets one chance with me to shape up or ship out. I will not tolerate loathsome girls who act all with bad attitude when I'm just tryin to make convo. Sure, it's OLD for ya.

 

[biggoal]

Well, I just had one (been "matched" for a week and she finally messaged me back just now) she's kinda hot, 32 yr old, she messages back "small" to my "What is [her town] like?" then I say, "I've never been south of [the big city between us]" she goes, "oh ok" so I just unmatched her. Why do millennial girls type so brain-deadly? Is it because she just not that interested even though she matched me and is messaging me? She only gets one chance with me to shape up or ship out. I will not tolerate loathsome girls who act all with bad attitude when I'm just tryin to make convo. Sure, it's OLD for ya.

I hate that too. The rare instance where the woman makes the first move and favorites you and then you favorite her and message her and she doesn't reply back. Had one like that last week.

Actually it's the older ones that I hate talking to. As I said I'm 35 and I have better luck talking to ones under 30. They seem less snobby and picky. Just tonight I had one same age as me and actually from my home town once again lol and lots the same sports teams and she checked my profile out. So I then checked her profile out and sent her a short message. She reads the messages the checks my profile out a couple more times! of course despite checking it over all these times over and over she doesn't bother replying back. Why keep reading it over and not even say high. That HB9 kinda did that. Read my message early in the morning then waited all day before replying.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I hate that too. The rare instance where the woman makes the first move and favorites you and then you favorite her and message her and she doesn't reply back. Had one like that last week.

Actually it's the older ones that I hate talking to. As I said I'm 35 and I have better luck talking to ones under 30. They seem less snobby and picky. Just tonight I had one same age as me and actually from my home town once again lol and lots the same sports teams and she checked my profile out. So I then checked her profile out and sent her a short message. She reads the messages the checks my profile out a couple more times! of course despite checking it over all these times over and over she doesn't bother replying back. Why keep reading it over and not even say high. That HB9 kinda did that. Read my message early in the morning then waited all day before replying.

It's because the older ones have all been RAN THROUGH I think.

 

[biggoal]

It's because the older ones have all been RAN THROUGH I think.

There just isn't a lot under 30 on OLD it's mostly over 30 and the real profiles that have attractive women most of them are head cases once you start talking to them you just want to bang your head against the wall.

 

[Poonani Maker]

^^ and children, and they'll say something like "his father is totally out of the picture" I'm like, um, so if you have one of MY children and we separate that you'll revel at the fact that MY child is not having any contact with ME!??

 

[biggoal]

Well, I don't see a lot of younger chicks lately in my region on match and they're easier to talk to and less demanding money wise and less picky. These older chicks who are more picky, snobby want "financial security" and "provider" and "career minded" and "professional" so I just tweaked my bio since I'm having to message chicks my age and older again and list myself as a professional and business owner and such. I just want tell them its a kiosk at a fleamarket until after a couple dates when you know they like you then eventually tell them. My guy friends say the same thing with this last uber snob. The date seemed to be going okay but when I mentioned my business was at a fleamarket is when her demeanor started to really change.

Women BS their age, weight, height, career, etc. in their profiles as well so I'll fudge my business up as well.

 

[biggoal]

More odd behavior. An high end hb 6, low 7, cute girl, average but hot but not super hot viewed my profile last night. So I sent her a message last night and she read it this morning. She then viewed more profile two more times today after reading the message and then just a couple minutes ago viewed my profile yet again.

Why does she keep checking me out and wont reply back? Should I send another email and see what's up since for some reason she's interested in looking at my profile but wont reply back. Is she comparing to others and thinning it down on who to talk to?

 

[biggoal]

For most of the past 2-3 years I've been offering my number by message #3. Max.

This is NOT fail-proof and it's also not the most alpha move but I don't care. OLD in my opinion mainly boils down to photos.

I stand out because I'm almost 50 yet I'm ripped, muscular and tall (in my humble opinion) so my mindset is, Fvuck it I'll just throw out my # to these women after 2 or 3 volleys and invite them to text or chat. Let them decide. Let them chase me a little. I can attract enough of them so why waste my time messaging back and forth when I can be talking to them on the phone meeting them in person?

Here's another thought:

Asking for a phone # is never necessary via OLD.

In my opinion it is always best to invite them to meet you without even even asking for their phone #. This pertains to OLD and "real world."

In the past, for years, I would put the cart before the horse and invite them to drink with me, without even asking for a #.

99% of the time I would invite them to drink with me (specific day time place) after just 2-3 email messages. This worked very well for me. At least well enough to have my weekends sufficiently involved with women.

The ones who accept my invite will almost always offer their # without my ever even asking for it.

I disagree. Always get a number. With OLD what if they don't log on for 3 days and your reply is 200 messages down and most likely they will never get it. If they give you their number then you can have more dailog and reach them easily.

Everyone on here says ask the woman for it. The last two times though giving my number out has worked and they ended up texting me first. One disagreed politically with stuff I asked her about religion and that was a no go, and this HB9 I offered it and she text me that afternoon and blew my phone up for the next two days. Since I'm in a slump this week with getting replies I might just throw my number into a couple of my messages. I always figured that could be a show of trust giving it out as well.