escaleraroyal
Master Don Juan
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Whats wrong with the girls who doesn't even let me finish saying my opener and walks away?
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
You really think is a numbers game and not skills game?You're not their physical type. Just move on to the next one.
You can't force attraction in a girl
Game is a numbers game
It's always a numbers game. Even the pro PUA's' get rejected lots.You really think is a numbers game and not skills game?
It's always a numbers game. Even the pro PUA's' get rejected lots.
The 'skill' element of it will simply increase the odds of you banging the girls who are already into you.
You can't force attraction in a girl no matter how many game techniques you apply (disqualify her, neg her, tease her, dhv story about your model ex girlfriend etc).
If you open a girl from cold approach who isn't remotely physically attracted to you, nothing you say will trick her into wanting to bang you. No amount of confidence etc will cut any ice. She might think you're fun and cool etc, but she won't want to bang you.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
How handsome is he? lolLet's say we have two guys at the same age, and have the same physical appearence.
guy1, have average skills and hits on 80 girls
guy2, have very advanced skills and hits on 30 girls
Who would bang more girls in the end?
From what you are saying, it sounds like guy1
How handsome is he? lol
If he's really handsome, guy 1 bangs like 70 girls, and guy 2 bangs like 28 girls
Let's say guy is a 7How handsome is he? lol
If he's really handsome, guy 1 bangs like 70 girls, and guy 2 bangs like 28 girls
Are you saying girls were more social 12 years ago? That's before facebook and other social media.Happens sometimes. I think it's usually a mixture of her not being into your looks plus her just not being a very sociable person. Lots of girls apparently have quite bad social anxiety nowadays as they just live on their phone reading their DM's from Instagram male models etc lol. So can get weirded out when a guy who they're not instantly attracted too starts talking to them. Depends on location maybe, too. I get WAY more insta rejections in the UK than in the US
7 out of 10. Average 'skills' - hits on 70 girls - bangs 32Let's say guy is a 7
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
First of all, props to you for going out and actually approaching women. I see too many guys here trying to use online dating.Let's say we have two guys at the same age, and have the same physical appearence (Both guys are a 7).
guy1, have average skills and hits on 80 girls
guy2, have very advanced skills and hits on 30 girls
Who would bang more girls in the end?
From what you are saying, it sounds like guy1
i'd say so.Are you saying girls were more social 12 years ago? That's before facebook and other social media.
It's both.You really think is a numbers game and not skills game?
Game is a numbers game
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
how well you dress? sorry if you really are the average 64 Y.O. grampa kind, you are looking hideous for the girl not even stop and see what grampa wants, also don't matter how good you look if you go after too young woman they will be freaked out don't matter how well you are, also care to share how you start?Whats wrong with the girls who doesn't even let me finish saying my opener and walks away?
I agree that there is a skill element, but it only comes into play AFTER she has picked you/is attracted to you/considers you good looking.There is an aspect to the "numbers game" that isn't wrong at all, but it is seriously over-hyped in my opinion.
I would say it is definitely a numbers game for men overcoming issues, hurdles, shortcomings and/or generally trying to improve their ways with women in general. But in most cases, it remains a numbers game for these guys because they are really just shooting blindly in an attempt to figure things out. It's like using buck shot just to ensure you kill at least one of the many doves hiding in the bushes.
I'm all on board with the idea that no man can eradicate rejection. It is definitely part of the game regardless of "skill level".
Where I part ways with the numbers game idea is when it is implied that all men of all skill levels have to approach a large number of women in order to succeed with a few of them.
This simply does not have to be true at all.
Once a man truly has his "game" in check, he not only develops a natural instinct, a heightened sensitivity to indicators of interest, but he can also attract enough women with his presence to be able to forge a high percentage of success with his selectivity without suffering a drop in his "abundance". In other words, he can game a large majority of women he approaches because he never truly cold approaches, even if the situation might fit the classical definition of a cold approach. He already knows he has the green light before a word is even spoken or a move is made.
A man who works on this level can still play the numbers game, but at this point, he is doing it purely for fun. It is an attempt to see what crazy thing he can get away with, like an intentional self-sabotage. It is more of an unnecessary challenge to himself born entirely out of curiosity and a desire to push the envelope to see what he can get away with, rather than a tactic that must be employed in order to be successful. It is quite voluntary.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.