The Diver
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Ok, I need your help here. It will be a long but worth reading, as many can learn from the feedback I'll receive here, I think.
Background:
She is in her 50th, single, no kids. I'm in my 50th.
Meet her online. She initiates contact ( I wrote in my profile that I had enough of women wasting my time, and to initiate contact if they are interested. ) She sends me a very long message about her self, stated that my profile is unique, made her laugh, and she liked the part where I asked women to "initiate contact". I replied with a much shorter message and after another two more messages I close date for the next day.
We mate up at the pub and had a great date with kissing halfway into the date, (she said we are in a public place, to which I said IDGAF), follow up with heavy make out in the car park. I asked her if she wants me to join her to her place, and she said: "No, I'm not going to sleep with you very quickly, and that she is not looking for just a fu*ck".
I felt her HI in me and close a second date at the end of the first date (not good? I don't know, I said to my self "fu*ck the rules,, she interested so why not")
The second date we mate again at a nice garden pub. She was a bit closed up in the beginning but loosen up after the first drink, we had a lot of light make out in the pub.
In this date, I learned that she retired, held two high-end degrees and made enough money to live very very comfortable. (she driving an expensive car). She mentions she is surprised I didn't ask her what she is doing for a living, as this is almost always the secound question men asking her after her name. I said I didn't want the type of her job to cloud my judgment about her. She was surprised by my answer but liked it.
I Invited her for a third date to come to my place for dinner. She said yes, but said, "she won't stay the night". I said "cool, no big deal, thinking it will change during the night.
We had a great night, very heavy make out but she didn't stay.
She invited me to her place but stated that "I won't be able to stay the night".
Was a great night, again very heavy make out but she didn't want me to stay.
My mistake here, which I acknowledge, is that I should have left much early then I did.(from 6:30pm-11pm)
She said I'm very sexy, she is very attracted to me, she is not playing a game with me, It's just she didn't make up her mind about me, and she wouldn't have seen me 4 times in a week if she wouldn't be interested. (I know, 4 dates in a week, bad, but rules again, and decided to do things differently this time, as I felt her HI interest in me)
Btw, I have been at her place. She is very rich, where I'm a trader. She said she doesn't care about men with money as she has enough of her own, and she's just looking for someone who is attractive, sexy, intelligent, interested in fitness and who will genuinely love and care for her. ( I learned she dated high-end men bf, her Ex husband was very rich, but she was treated like trash, she doesn't want that kind of men anymore, and this time want to take things slowly)
Now here is the thing. I had this bs bf with one woman who holds back sex, and I bailed out after the third date as I felt manipulated, but this woman is the best woman I dated until now in regard to high quality and looks. She is very attractive, feminine, very intelligent, cool, laid back and overall really fun to be with, and I want to try to make it work.
Now, I have never experienced thing like that bf, all women I have been with sexed me not longer than the third date. This is new territory for me, and I don't really know how to go about it: is she played me for a fool or is she just taking her time? I know, the question is: what I want out of it, and my answer is, I want more than just fuc*king her, as I feel she is a few good notches above anything I have dated until now.
I told her I'm going to an art gallery this Sunday and does she want to join me? (note, I'm doing what I like doing and invited her to join me) she said she would love to but she has a plan for this Sun but will love to join me if I'll go Tuesday. I said cool, we can go on Tuesday.
So, how should I proceed from here? how to go about her not want sex with me at that point in time? is she playing with me, looking for my attention without the sex part, or is she just a high-quality woman and not just another slut? is she caution afraid being fu*cked and dump again? (which she did mention it to me once)
I do start feels like I'm losing my frame here.
Appreciate your feedback and output, but need a good advice bf Tuesday on how to proceed from here on .( Feel free to kick my ass for any mistakes I did )
Cheers
Background:
She is in her 50th, single, no kids. I'm in my 50th.
Meet her online. She initiates contact ( I wrote in my profile that I had enough of women wasting my time, and to initiate contact if they are interested. ) She sends me a very long message about her self, stated that my profile is unique, made her laugh, and she liked the part where I asked women to "initiate contact". I replied with a much shorter message and after another two more messages I close date for the next day.
We mate up at the pub and had a great date with kissing halfway into the date, (she said we are in a public place, to which I said IDGAF), follow up with heavy make out in the car park. I asked her if she wants me to join her to her place, and she said: "No, I'm not going to sleep with you very quickly, and that she is not looking for just a fu*ck".
I felt her HI in me and close a second date at the end of the first date (not good? I don't know, I said to my self "fu*ck the rules,, she interested so why not")
The second date we mate again at a nice garden pub. She was a bit closed up in the beginning but loosen up after the first drink, we had a lot of light make out in the pub.
In this date, I learned that she retired, held two high-end degrees and made enough money to live very very comfortable. (she driving an expensive car). She mentions she is surprised I didn't ask her what she is doing for a living, as this is almost always the secound question men asking her after her name. I said I didn't want the type of her job to cloud my judgment about her. She was surprised by my answer but liked it.
I Invited her for a third date to come to my place for dinner. She said yes, but said, "she won't stay the night". I said "cool, no big deal, thinking it will change during the night.
We had a great night, very heavy make out but she didn't stay.
She invited me to her place but stated that "I won't be able to stay the night".
Was a great night, again very heavy make out but she didn't want me to stay.
My mistake here, which I acknowledge, is that I should have left much early then I did.(from 6:30pm-11pm)
She said I'm very sexy, she is very attracted to me, she is not playing a game with me, It's just she didn't make up her mind about me, and she wouldn't have seen me 4 times in a week if she wouldn't be interested. (I know, 4 dates in a week, bad, but rules again, and decided to do things differently this time, as I felt her HI interest in me)
Btw, I have been at her place. She is very rich, where I'm a trader. She said she doesn't care about men with money as she has enough of her own, and she's just looking for someone who is attractive, sexy, intelligent, interested in fitness and who will genuinely love and care for her. ( I learned she dated high-end men bf, her Ex husband was very rich, but she was treated like trash, she doesn't want that kind of men anymore, and this time want to take things slowly)
Now here is the thing. I had this bs bf with one woman who holds back sex, and I bailed out after the third date as I felt manipulated, but this woman is the best woman I dated until now in regard to high quality and looks. She is very attractive, feminine, very intelligent, cool, laid back and overall really fun to be with, and I want to try to make it work.
Now, I have never experienced thing like that bf, all women I have been with sexed me not longer than the third date. This is new territory for me, and I don't really know how to go about it: is she played me for a fool or is she just taking her time? I know, the question is: what I want out of it, and my answer is, I want more than just fuc*king her, as I feel she is a few good notches above anything I have dated until now.
I told her I'm going to an art gallery this Sunday and does she want to join me? (note, I'm doing what I like doing and invited her to join me) she said she would love to but she has a plan for this Sun but will love to join me if I'll go Tuesday. I said cool, we can go on Tuesday.
So, how should I proceed from here? how to go about her not want sex with me at that point in time? is she playing with me, looking for my attention without the sex part, or is she just a high-quality woman and not just another slut? is she caution afraid being fu*cked and dump again? (which she did mention it to me once)
I do start feels like I'm losing my frame here.
Appreciate your feedback and output, but need a good advice bf Tuesday on how to proceed from here on .( Feel free to kick my ass for any mistakes I did )
Cheers
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