The Rational Male saga , did I made a mistake?

[DEEZEDBRAH]

She is a single mom b'cos her husband committed suicide due to depression. She is a nurse with a good job. She was loving, caring, fun to be with and I didn't see any red flags about her.

Did you watch him commit suicide or is this female logic and rhetoric you are regurgitating?

I understand the opinion of most here about not dating a single mom, but women in my age (50th ) are all or widows( due to a car accident, cancer, and as such ) or divorce with kids. Finding a single woman in my age without kids is not realistic, but at least I'm taking care to only date women with grown-up kids (18up) so no kids string attached to me.

At 50, I'd bachelor pad it up and run over sugar babies. Top form SMV 18-23 vs single moms weighing in at 400lbs?

Takes days to respond lol

So she's 50 ie cratered SMV but with the maturity of a 17yr old?

I know, most think single moms are trash but I dated few awesome single moms who have a good job, paid home, hobbies, good close family, fantastic intelligent kids (some in Uni or graduate from Uni) who go about their life like any other women. Yes I come across problematic single moms, and in those casees I eject very quickly, but I think many here generalising too much about a single moms.

Lets use car terminology.

Everyone's heard of a train wreck. Everyone's heard of a lemon. A single mom is the equivalent of a car missing the engine and or transmission.

Not doing it right kuz.

Why no one here ever says about the single mom @BeExcellent that she is a train wreck good only for bj ? b'cos there are single moms outside there who are good quality women to date, just like BeExcellent is.

Single mom is a train wreck.

Your terrible choice in women and telling women to preach red pill awareness to her son is indicative of your lack thereof game as well as common sense.

A single mom and a widow are not the same thing. Single mom's are train wrecks. Justifying quality single moms followed by reiterating a series of failed relationships and retarded issues with said women highlights my point.

Don't you have any pride or self respect? Single mom's are throater material on a dryspell. Not raising playboys children.

This is called cuckoldry. Worse, you sign up for your own cucking knowingly.



Lose her #. Grow a pair of nuts. And go bang hot younger women. I would rather sugar babies then pulling grannies lulz

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Single mother MAIN purpose is to support her children.

From the logical and suvival of the species point of view it's a correct decision - so single woman is not some evil demon some of sosuave users tend to think. It's just her biological purpose WAS ALREADY FULFILLED and that's why you should evade them.

There's greater chance that:
- she will do gold digging
- you will be on the lower part of her daily "to do" list
- you will have to waste your valuable time and resources on her offspring (repulsive idea really, I literally want to vomit when I think about guys going for such a deal)

If you have a woman and she stops to be that great woman after you have children then at least you have fulfilled your biological purpose as well.

I'd prefer to try to pick up a 35y old 6/10 nun than to deal with 7/10 35y old single mother. Seriously.

50 years old? Man, come on, some guys do their first marriage at this age nowadays. You can do better than single mothers. It's about how you think of yourself.

That's bottom feeder mentality.

Purpose is reduced to having children and following the beaten path like 99% of cucks.

DJ lifestyle is the opposite.


I don't think men have a clue what they're giving up and sacrificing to play house.

There's this convoluted rubbish of biological purpose of men coincides with female biological strategy of playing house. Its rubbish. Its horse ****.

There's a reason why 300 happened. Why we know Alexander the Great.

Playing house is base level retardation. Lower life forms do that.



Purpose that which gives a man a reason for Being is the mark.

The same horse **** cuckoldry is pedaling through churches as gospel. Cratered SMV and or single mom's who know found God.

Its all ****ery. Fellas need to wake up.


If at a man's core, a family and kids are what He truly desires, not cause he was shamed into it or nonsense about "man up" mistaking playing house as manhood; power to him.


Make no. Mistake. That is not his purpose nor does it excuse him from crushing it in life.


Take a step back and look at the levels of cuck and how the female biological strategy has infiltrated everything in what a man's life is suppose to serve. Servitude and male sacrificial lamb is not the same thing if DJ status.

 

[flowtheory]

I’m shocked she had such a big reaction. I think this gives insight in to her character.
Were there more issues aside from this? Seems odd she just ejected because of a book.. she could have inquired further in to why you felt this book was so insightful. But to break a new relationship over a book... come on. It’s not like it’s about sacrificing children to the demon gods.. it’s psychology and self development which ultimately makes you a better man FOR her

 

[The Diver]

Were there more issues aside from this?

No , no other issues.

In our brief txt convo, she sends me the screenshot of the page "Positive Masculinity" which is a real punch in the face to any woman and said it's a disturbing book.

I admit it was stupid to mention this book really. It will be too much to any woman, and they will take it in the wrong direction entirely, as we can see here. Btw, I never thought she will read it.

 

[lamath]

I’m shocked she had such a big reaction. I think this gives insight in to her character.
Were there more issues aside from this? Seems odd she just ejected because of a book.. she could have inquired further in to why you felt this book was so insightful. But to break a new relationship over a book... come on. It’s not like it’s about sacrificing children to the demon gods.. it’s psychology and self development which ultimately makes you a better man FOR her

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I wont talk about the mom thing, after a certain age it gets harder and harder to find women without kid.
But he fact that her husband commited suicide is something very important to think about imo
1st its possible that the situation that women created at home, pushed him over the edge and 2nd that had to have some serious effect on her mental health.

 

[The Diver]

1st its possible that the situation that women created at home, pushed him over the edge

I really can't comment about it, I don't have enough information about it. At the time I knew her I didn't see any issue with her. She was calm, collective, normal behaviour really.

that had to have some serious effect on her mental health.

Maybe, but again, at the time I knew her I didn't see anything out of ordinary but could be it's run deeper then I could see, and now it's surfaced.

 

[Ranger]

I have been seen this woman for a few months now. I liked her, she is fun and we had great chemistry. She pushes for exclusivity but I pushed it gently away, and we continue dating around once a week.
One evening we talk about her 18 years old son and his dating life. I told her I recommended he read The Rational Male and add "its a great book that will help him understanding relationship dynamic". "ok, so maybe I'll read it as well," she said. I said (and this is my mistake I think) " mmm I don't think it's a good idea", knowing how it's can be offensive to some women. " Ow yea?" she said, "now I definitely going to read it ".
Since then I didn't hear from her for 4 weeks. I then texted her " hey babe what's going on? No replay. Two weeks past and I text " ???" , still no replay. I then txt " Ok got the hint, take care". She replayed with " I don't know Diver I read YOUR favourite book and I found it disturbing". I texted back " seriously kate, you judge me by a book you read ? " did you find me a disturbed person?"
Two days past, no answer, so I guess it's over.

Do you think It's a mistake mentioning this book, or any other book dealing with this subject, to a woman you're dating ?

Yeah you did. They want a man who knows what’s going on but they don’t want it openly expressed.

It puts her on the spot because it’s so full of truths and opens that universe up. We were never meant to know these things. Remember?

What do women want?
“Optimized Hypergamy with men being clueless about it.”
Rollo Tomassi

The second you think your princess doesn’t want optimized unrestricted fukking and hopping when her biology dictates it...you loose.

There is another that is even more exposing and it’s written by a woman. A woman that gets death threats even today. “The Manipulated Man” by Ester Vilar. Pook and a couple of others claim it as a MUST read. It’s a quick, thin book but is so disturbing in so many respects that it makes The Rational Male child’s play. Put these two together and you will have to rebuild your complete reality anew.
We live in a fukked up paradigm. A complete exploitation of our biology.

 

[The Diver]

“The Manipulated Man” by Ester Vilar. Pook and a couple of others claim it as a MUST read.

Yea, I actually read it just a few weeks ago! It is an explosive book.

 

[The Diver]

LOL

Haha, yea I know. I still try to see the bright side of the moon.

 

[Ranger]

Yea, I actually read it just a few weeks ago! It is an explosive book.

The most exposing book written. A true threat to women. Vicious threat.

 

[The Diver]

The most exposing book written. A true threat to women. Vicious threat.

I used the materials written in this book in a different forum. The out roar came from the feminist and the beta male on that forum was hilarious, they just couldn't comprehended it, haha

 

[Ranger]

I used the materials written in this book in a different forum. The out roar came from the feminist and the beta male on that forum was hilarious, they just couldn't comprehend it, haha

The problem is the feminist did comprehend it. Brutally honest.

 

[zekko]

She is a single mom b'cos her husband committed suicide due to depression. She is a nurse with a good job..

Hmm, I wonder if she's a caretaker type?

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I think that most of guys here that brag about male purpose actually have none or they lost it already. It's just a convenient facade. We will all get older and ultimately bow to Mother Nature. Aquiring 'immortal man' mentality is waste of time for me.

Likely, herein lies your problem and predisposition to beta male Being.

Smarter men before me and after me have pointed to the mark. More over, they have lived it and left a mark. Call it what you want. Purpose /life path/hero's journey etc > women & & & playing house.

Facade or soy boy?

This isn't a call out. Its indicative of the low testosterone in society. The biggest con being the female biological strategy (play house after SMV craters) being convoluted with male biological need for a heir.

Female nature is hypergamy on steroids. Male nature is spread the seed. Essentially, unlimited sexual access eith an abundance of women. Playing house with a fat wife who pissed her best yrs away as a booty isn't the same thing.

Man is about amount of power, experience and wealth he can aquire. Independence is not declared w/o material assets and preparations.

Again, resources is attractive if you play the beta male cuckoldry game.

Jeff Bezos (or bozo) is a billionaire who is about to be divorce raped aftee smashin 50 yr old cratered SMV.

I am 30 and plowing 20yr old women in the middle of the week. I don't have nearly his resources and yet absurd amount of more game. Its why brad pitt can be party to a 500 mill divorce because despite social status, they are clueless of female nature.

Regarding Alexander the Great - when he was 32 he ruled half of the world the greeks knew (the more important half) but his army and country (Macedon and united Greece) was in fact creation of his father that was cunning and dangerous political beast, while Alexander was a megalomiac dreamer with ultimate level of charisma alas I do admire him and his conquests. It's doubtful that Alexander could do as well as Philip did on his place however there was no better man to conquer the world at that time than Alexander the Great.

Regarding 300 - admirable but stupid, I consider my genes superior when compared with average so I'd need to make it 299 if I was one of them at that time.

You are lost.

The plan is to get 1 girl what 30 + with a few abortions and decade + of riding the carousel.

Its a DJ forum. Obv, go get baeeeees but, the lifestyle is for sport. #nextSet


There's a Dirty John doc and show on Netflix.

Spoiler

Woman kills man stabbing him 13 times include a wound through the eye and brain.

No jail time. Lulz

Its a hit piece. The Michael Jackson hit piece as well. Its victimhood on steroids.

Women chase doctor. Wife snoops pn husband. All women are on bulking season. If they spent the same amount of time in the gym as they do on ig, they would be fat.

Step game up. It won't end well.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

No , no other issues.

In our brief txt convo, she sends me the screenshot of the page "Positive Masculinity" which is a real punch in the face to any woman and said it's a disturbing book.

I admit it was stupid to mention this book really. It will be too much to any woman, and they will take it in the wrong direction entirely, as we can see here. Btw, I never thought she will read it.

Think Fight club.

The first two rules of fight club are, you don't talk about it.

Single mom are awful candidates. No response from a grown woman with cratered SMV is comical.

You know the drill. Act accordingly. #nextSet

I used the materials written in this book in a different forum. The out roar came from the feminist and the beta male on that forum was hilarious, they just couldn't comprehended it, haha

Dont get yourself doxed. While 99.9999 % of feminists don't know how to code, if you shake up the hornets nest, you can do yourself dirty lulz

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I wont talk about the mom thing, after a certain age it gets harder and harder to find women without kid.
But he fact that her husband commited suicide is something very important to think about imo
1st its possible that the situation that women created at home, pushed him over the edge and 2nd that had to have some serious effect on her mental health.

+1

Theres the same emphasis on single mom.

Either she was a **** so he left regardless of divorce rape or she ****ed off. It does not matter what you offered, life provided by you or that you gave children.

Reminds me of the **** that stabbed a guy13 x in self defence. Psychos.

 

[flowtheory]

No , no other issues.

In our brief txt convo, she sends me the screenshot of the page "Positive Masculinity" which is a real punch in the face to any woman and said it's a disturbing book.

I admit it was stupid to mention this book really. It will be too much to any woman, and they will take it in the wrong direction entirely, as we can see here. Btw, I never thought she will read it.

I don’t know if it would be too much. Or if it is that big of an issue. I think you dodged a bullet here.
She should be judging you on how you interact with the world, people, and her. Just because you’ve obtained knowledge shouldn’t be the end of something, and it shouldn’t be handled in such an immature way.

 

[The Diver]

I don’t know if it would be too much. Or if it is that big of an issue. I think you dodged a bullet here.
She should be judging you on how you interact with the world, people, and her. Just because you’ve obtained knowledge shouldn’t be the end of something, and it shouldn’t be handled in such an immature way.

Yea, agree with everything you said here.
I already deleted her No and moved on. One thing I promised myself a long time ago, and that not to walk on eggs shells for no one, say what I want, as I want it, and if someone can't cope with it, he/she free to move on. Btw many women liked this approach and said it's refreshing, as most guys try to be "Nich" and trying not to "hurt their feeling".

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I'm in upgrade period of my life (1st place is work and material assets 2nd place is skills) right now so I assumed 'sniper' mentality regarding dating (it's on 3rd place). I'm not looking for a quick fix from a woman but thanks.

My mentality is Red Pill. My main purpose right now are status and assets.
Your mentality seems to be first and foremost PUA if I understand you well. Your main purpose seems to be DJing and phucking women.

I consider PUA waste of time in my age but I see no problem with that. Different ppl, different approaches

Straight up kuz, i dun goofed.

I legit pissed far too many yrs smashing bitches without rubbers.

Red pill as well but from being forged in the fire. Chain gunning pickup. Hitting on baeeees, getting girls etc.

Its why I am beating purpose to death.

I might not have a fraction of the resources or career that the next lad has. Throw me in a club or bar or coffee shop and i will stunt on him.

When hindsight vision is 20/20, everyone would pivot and act accordingly.

For young blood, i highly recommended hitting it hard, get girls if teens or early 20s. If mid or late 20s, obv get girls but focus on what matters. Allocate time to what is most important.

I was super beta as a kid. Likely why I spent so much time here but once you go through the fire and make it through the other side, your pupils dilate and your eyes are opened. You see female nature as it is not how you wish it to be.

There's no going back.

However one that is red pill and after status and assets will never go blue pill again.

I'm no alpha and I'm not interested in alpha status. I'm interested in sigma status right now - maintenance of fluent social rank in order to achieve higher social rank by flank manouvers if direct path is blocked (and it usually is). Eventually I want to end in 'strong beta' status and I see nothing wrong in it really.

You need to consider what strong beta means in different social circles mate.

I am more interested in entrepreneurship, side hustles and escape from the 9-5 corporate gig.

I don't see anything in any of my posts supporting statement that I want to be a nice beta male playing house.

I want to have children eventually for sure but there's a significant difference between one and the other.



My last LTR was with a 7+/10 virgin (until she met me) but feel free to think about me what you want to think.



It's DJ forum for you. Lifestyle is for sport for you.

It's self-upgrade forum for me. Lifestyle is about achieving better lifestyle for me.

Its context playboy.

IMHO (for what it's worth lulz), the state of masculinity or lack thereof is indicative of a lack of purpose.

Male academics has been slipping for 60yrs. Manufacturing is dead. Women are weaponized. False accusations. Affirmative action and girl power, feminism, etc among other things affect the status quo.

Threads here are guys chasing cratered SMV or marrying epiphany phase. Guys Dating single moms, high kill count, and these are supposedly red pill aware men.

The majority are asleep at the wheel.

One fella posts monogamy is the only way fir steady. Another says its easy to pull. Models. Neither have seen a vagina before lulz


A lot of men are purposeless. Their life has no meaning nor any value.

A man. Must give his life meaning or he's plagued by manipulation and following the beaten path.

 

[sazc]

From my perspective (and I'm pretty open to information, in general)....

The non red pill educated woman will not respond favorably to ANY red pill rhetoric unless she understands the male struggle. To complicate the matter, she cannot begin to really understand the male struggle unless she is singularly exposed to the topic and allowed to come to her own opinion on the matter. This means, no, you cannot expose nor educate her on the subject.

Bottom line... You're most likely never going to find a woman who can red pill relate organically, so don't go there