“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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GrowingPains

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So I've been friends with this girl for... 8 years. I used to have a crush on her in high school, I told her, nothing came of it.

Anyways, we live close to each other again and have been pretty good friends throughout the years. My bday is coming up and we're planning to hang out. I wouldn't mind this being a fwb sitchiation. She's told me she had a crush on my best friend before - no problem, he's a handsome lad (although her expression of this interest in him might mean no interest in me?). We've talked about the intimate parts of our lives, including my very AFC breakup.

But I'm curious how you guys would navigate this. Would you try to make the fwb thing happen? How would you go about it? Be straight up? Seduce as usual? Or just let it be what it is?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I would say "go out as friends" with the girl. But hear me out. Then I would try to do what @markfromeurope suggested above and let this girl you like see you pick up other girls and put her in your orbit. But if you don't get that chance in the time you have, do as much as you can to try and pull yourself out of the friend zone by showing her your not the chump she once thought you to be. Get the vibe going as much as you can, and then just go for it and kiss her. Before the night is over. If she rejects, then at least you will know where she stands, and she you. At that point you can decide if you want to really be "just friends" or if you want to call it a night because it's getting late and you need to get home to 'walk your goldfish'.
 

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It's not so much as her seeing you as a friend, it's her viewing you not attractive, bellow what she'd date and fk. If you could date a chick hotter than her, her perspective might change.

Your line that on your b-day you two are planning to hang out together could mean a ton of different things, like you inviting her to your party where there are other people, or you two hanging out together literally. If it's latter, that does you no good, except showing her that you're a champ, with no life, she'd hang out with you tho as a friend, nothing more, and it would be stupid to try anything on her, stupid and weird for her. What kind of hang out did you mean?

Do you have a plate right now who is ways hotter than her?
 

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Nah I don't have any plates right now. Just a handful of numbers. Moved here 3 weeks ago so I'm still getting established.

My plan is this:

I want to have some fun to celebrate my birthday with someone who's company I know I'll enjoy. I know I'll enjoy this girl's company. So she and I will hang out (hiking, hit up some stores, other stuff I wanna do)

Now, I understand that I'm 6 feet under in the friend zone. No problem. I won't expect anything romantic of it. I will pursue other women as I usually would while she's here for the weekend and if I want to make a move, I will.
 

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No no no, don't make a move. It's useless. It will get you even more into LJBF, don't. Separate yourself from emotions, they sticky, and gross,ew. Now, let's discuss your plans, wtf are plans are those, hiking fro a b-day? Hit up some stores? other stuff I wanna do? I have a nice video for you my man, enjoy, sorry.

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Ok man, for my b-day I would like some bbq, beer, some fun at my place, a party. If your place sux, a bbq place down the road works fine. And no games on her. You'll scare her away. Pretend you're playing a low interest game, everything is platonic, picture her to be a dude. Things will go your way though, you will get a girl that is hotter than her, and once she will see you get hit by her, things will change.

Change your b-day plans, they stink.
 

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wtf are plans are those
I summarized. I'm not gonna explain why I like to do stuff, it's my life, G. You can choose to do other things on your birthday if you want.
 

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So she didn't come up that weekend, which is fine because I desperately needed to get some work done. But we hung out for a little yesterday, and I felt like unpacking my thoughts.

It was fun to hang out, I enjoyed her company as always. But I couldn't help but check her out and think all kinds of stuff to say to seduce. Some of them I said, mostly to test the water and see how she'd respond. She laughed, but it was clear she thought nothing more of what I was saying than as a joke.

Anyways, I decided to ask her if we could be more than friends. She clarified with something along the lines of "like fvcking?" to which I said yeah. In summary, she said not 'right now' (emphasis mine, bc maybe we can climb outta the friendzone lmao, but I'm not pressed) because she doesn't want to mess up what she has with this guy she's exclusively banging (who's in a open relationship) but is 'not her boyfriend' (lmao... if it looks like a boyfriend.. acts like a boyfriend..). There were some other points she made, like past situations with long time friends turning fwb turning out bad and her being too emotional to let it return to a friendship afterwards. But anyways, the details are neither here nor there - I'm just a friend.

Later that night, my roommate was doing homework on the couch, so no one could sleep there. She said she was fine with sleeping in my bed. I did not sleep well. I was in my head big time. 'Should I try this should I do that'... you know how it goes. I made some comments hinting at sex but nothing seemed to land. And I didn't really try any kino in bed because I'm not good at it and I didn't want things to get weird if it went wrong (should've just done it but oh well, can't change the past). She turned her back to me when she was trying to sleep and kept a safe distance. Somehow we brought up the 5 Love Languages and she disclosed that she likes to be the one to initiate touch. And then of course that sh!t was running through my mind as each potentially accidental knee brush (very minimal) occurred. Anyways, she falls asleep and I'm in my head thinking 'damn I should've done that or said that'.

But I digress. The point of this whole post is this:

1. I need to spin more plates. If I was, then I would've made more aggressive moves and not cared so much about the outcome. The outcome wouldn't matter since I knew I could/was going to get some anyways. But since I haven't been getting any lately (largely due to being busy af), ya boi was focused on the outcome but had all the inhibitions.

2. Related to 1. it's clear she sees me as just a friend and as other people mentioned, she would need to see me with other women to change that. I'm not gonna get more women for this purpose, but I realize now the benefit it could have.

3. Do what you want. Either you do it and fail. Or you do it and succeed. It's not the outcome that matters, the only way you can be truly disappointed with the situation is if you don't act on your feelings/go for it. Rejection is better than regret. I'm working on becoming better at this. It takes some time to internalize the idgaf attitude. But I'll put myself out there more, deal with the downfalls and revel in the benefits. I need to lose my filter.

This post was just for me to reflect on the situation. While some of the advice here made sense to me, it never really made sense until things went down. Experience is the best teacher. I'm not writing to try and figure out how to win her over, I'm writing to bring light to my faults so I can own them and do what I need to do to get better. Maybe I'll try again with her, but that's not really important - there's other women out there. The 3rd point is the most pertinent thing for me to get out of this. So I'm going to focus on that. I'll give it some thought and maybe post about it somewhere later.

Be breezy.
 
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