An Epidemic of Single, Lonely Females

[longtail]

I posted this in the @mellow_yellow thread on misandry. There's so much bleating about how tough it is for men out there. However, I've met so many single and lonely women both in big cities and small towns it's difficult to comprehend.

True, a lot of these girls are average, or fat, or even ugly. However, many of them are cute. Some are actually hot. There are just too many ways for "relationships" to go awry these days. And women are so overworked it's often difficult for them to enter into a relationship in the first place. Men suffer more, no question, but a lot of women lose out in this musical chairs game as well. Here are just a few ways women can run into trouble with dating or not even find the opportunity to enter into a relationship:

-They find a man but he leaves after she gets pregnant and fat.

-They are divorced and one or two decades more past prime dating and marriageable age

-They completely refuse to go to clubs and bars, where they would be drooled over if they had the patience, time and temperament to stay out late and deal with all of the bull-**** that nightlife entails

-They work long, odd hours and don't have a schedule that allows for regular dating even if they want to

-They work long, odd hours and don't have the energy to go out regularly

-They are in grad school and don't have the time

-They want a boyfriend/husband but have been taught in college that men are evil and women must have a career first

-They live in a small town and the men are generally stupid, ugly and/or evil

-They are highly religious and can't find a man who shares the same beliefs and lifestyle

I am just scratching the surface here. I am a very social person and meet a lot of people and I think many men would be completely shocked at the enormous number of women who are in their 20's and dateless. Some of these women go on dry spells for months or even years.

In effect, any "normal" modern woman in her 20's now has at three full time jobs: school, career, dating. And if they have a strong commitment to the first two, dating usually suffers. A modern woman is very similar to a confused, abused and overworked dog. They are actually traumatized by life. I don't see any easy fix for this situation, either.

 

[ohrein]

There's so much bleating about how tough it is for men out there.

I think that's a really nasty way to phrase that, particularly since this is a board specifically for men to develop the skills and confidence with women and their life. Men who find this place can often be in the lowest of low places.

However, I've met so many single and lonely women both in big cities and small towns it's difficult to comprehend.

I've seen quite a lot of members comment on this and I for the most part agree. However, the difference is in choice. Women have all the power in the dating game. This is evolutionary biology. They are the bringers of life, they have the scarce biological resource (eggs vs sperm) and they are the sexual selectors. Let's not forget the OKCupid study that showed men vote women's attractiveness on a bell curve with most women being slightly above average and that women vote 80% of men as below average. There is not a single woman I've dated who didn't have options, often at times when I had none.

If there's an epidemic of single women, it's by their own doing. If they want to forego relationships for a career, that's their choice. I think the problem is women have no understanding of what putting effort into finding a mate is because they never have to do it. They just put on some makeup and wait for men, then complain when their selections aren't 8/10's when they're a 6/10. Most women don't even think about what they can bring to the table in a relationship, they just have this subconscious programming that men are there to please them. That's why you see feminists saying that about men, it's classic projection. I've never met a man who thinks women exist solely for his pleasure. They exist, sure, but they're the absolutely rarity. Yet how common is it to see women professing how they are the princess waiting for a prince? Is she really a princess though, or just entitled? I bet she's never thought about how she adds value to a guys life yet expects the best of men.

I feel sorry for women and do think they have it hard. Men are so weak and feminized in western society that it's no surprise women aren't finding good men. There are so few. But this board is for men to learn the rules of the game, not to talk about women.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I posted this in the @mellow_yellow thread on misandry. There's so much bleating about how tough it is for men out there. However, I've met so many single and lonely women both in big cities and small towns it's difficult to comprehend.

Put your violin away.

Women are single when SMV crashes.

True, a lot of these girls are average, or fat, or even ugly. However, many of them are cute. Some are actually hot. There are just too many ways for "relationships" to go awry these days. And women are so overworked it's often difficult for them to enter into a relationship in the first place. Men suffer more, no question, but a lot of women lose out in this musical chairs game as well. Here are just a few ways women can run into trouble with dating or not even find the opportunity to enter into a relationship

-

They find a man but he leaves after she gets pregnant and fat.

-They are divorced and one or two decades more past prime dating and marriageable age

-They completely refuse to go to clubs and bars, where they would be drooled over if they had the patience, time and temperament to stay out late and deal with all of the bull-**** that nightlife entails

-They work long, odd hours and don't have a schedule that allows for regular dating even if they want to

-They work long, odd hours and don't have the energy to go out regularly

-They are in grad school and don't have the time

-They want a boyfriend/husband but have been taught in college that men are evil and women must have a career first

-They live in a small town and the men are generally stupid, ugly and/or evil

-They are highly religious and can't find a man who shares the same beliefs and lifestyle

Its her poor lifestyle choices coupled with girl power.

I am just scratching the surface here. I am a very social person and meet a lot of people and I think many men would be completely shocked at the enormous number of women who are in their 20's and dateless. Some of these women go on dry spells for months or even years.

In effect, any "normal" modern woman in her 20's now has at three full time jobs: school, career, dating. And if they have a strong commitment to the first two, dating usually suffers. A modern woman is very similar to a confused, abused and overworked dog. They are actually traumatized by life. I don't see any easy fix for this situation, either.

Thwnk you feminism.

Zero ****kkk given. I dont get hard for her degree in basket weaving and her cratered smv.

They are traumatised by stupidly. When on top form SMV 18-23 are not single and alone unless fat, ugly or disgusting.

 

[ohrein]

You keep posting this, why? I date the career women you think are so lonely, you're absolutely dead wrong.

Yeah but you're high value. High value men are rare. As women climb in social status, their options for men start to dwindle rapidly. It's classic hypergamy, from just a sociological definition. Women do not date down in social status. These women are pricing themselves out of the dating market with their own actions. I feel sorry for them but that's on them, not men. Although women are going to be blind to this truth as well. Maybe we should start red pilling women?

 

[AttackFormation]

I feel sorry for women and do think they have it hard. Men are so weak and feminized in western society that it's no surprise women aren't finding good men. There are so few.

The tragedy is that weakness is a negative spiral. The lower mens' testosterone levels fall compared to older generations, the more demasculated their upbringings become, they more they will defer to women. But women, even if they have the understanding and articulation of what kind of men they really like, despise teaching game to men or men "learning" game. If every kind of role model, supportive, teaching, parental, mentor role in society was occupied by women, and they knew what the problem was, they still wouldn't solve it because the medium of them having to teach the men would kill the message for them. They would still be unattractive because they're still merely doing what women tell them to do.

 

[The Duke]

I know a few HB6's in their late 40's, have good jobs, own homes, etc. They aren't hurting for male attention. Its there if they want it.

 

[longtail]

Women are single when SMV crashes.

When on top form SMV 18-23 are not single and alone unless fat, ugly or disgusting.

I know a few HB6's in their late 40's, have good jobs, own homes, etc. They aren't hurting for male attention. Its there if they want it.

So SMV "crashes" after age 23, yet they still get a lot of male attention when they are 50 and they are only HB6. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

 

[Music_czar]

Hot girls are almost never single for long.. they always have a long line of willing orbiters waiting/hoping to be next in line.

When guys are single it’s not out of choice.. when hot women are single it’s usually out of choice because they’re tired of wasting time on an “average” guy and are holding out for a higher quality guy.

The epidemic of lonely single girls is generally made up of plan/average/ugly chicks. There are some hot girls that aren’t party slvts/druggies/mental but these are the gems that are hard to reach bc they’re not as outgoing as the more promiscuous girls.

 

[Billtx49]

So SMV "crashes" after age 23, yet they still get a lot of male attention when they are 50 and they are only HB6. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

No, the highest SMV is gone after a woman’s 20’s. Doesn’t mean the game ends then. Better looking women can date into their late 40’s or mid 50’s with no problem…

 

[longtail]

No, the highest SMV is gone after a woman’s 20’s. Doesn’t mean the game ends then. Better looking women can date into their late 40’s or mid 50’s with no problem…

A 50 year old "HB6" is better looking? Better looking than what? An "HB4" 80 year old?

 

[Billtx49]

A 50 year old "HB6" is better looking? Better looking than what? An "HB4" 80 year old?

Reread my post… I mentioned better looking women.

 

[longtail]

Hot girls are almost never single for long.. they always have a long line of willing orbiters waiting/hoping to be next in line.

False. I know a ton of girls 18-27 who are hot and single. The pool of attractive men from any perspective is ridiculously shallow. Tons of drug addicts, videogame addicts, potheads, methheads, school dropouts, unemployed, no direction, minimum wage job, fat, don't shower, it's endless.

When guys are single it’s not out of choice.. when hot women are single it’s usually out of choice because they’re tired of wasting time on an “average” guy and are holding out for a higher quality guy.

The epidemic of lonely single girls is generally made up of plan/average/fault chicks. There are some hot girls that aren’t party slvts/druggies/mental but these are the gems that are hard to reach bc they’re not as outgoing as the more promiscuous girls.

True but there are a huge number of hot girls who remain single because of the reasons I mentioned, along with the vast numbers of ****-tier males who are doing nothing with their lives.

 

[longtail]

Reread my post… I mentioned better looking women.

Reread the term 50 year old "HB6." A 6 ain't hot. And very few 50 year old women are 6/10 much less "HB's."

 

[Music_czar]

False. I know a ton of girls 18-27 who are hot and single.

That’s what you think, hot girls have guys they see and don’t tell you about

 

[Billtx49]

Reread the term 50 year old "HB6." A 6 ain't hot. And very few 50 year old women are 6/10 much less "HB's."

Hate to break it to you but a 6 wasn’t hot in her 20’s either…

 

[17 shots]

OP is bringing up aids at a cancer fundraiser

 

[longtail]

Hate to break it to you but a 6 wasn’t hot in her 20’s either…

I didn't say a 6 was an "HB." You did.

 

[Billtx49]

I didn't say a 6 was an "HB." You did.

Reread my posts, you will Not see the term HB. It’s realy hard to argue with no facts…

 

[longtail]

Reread my posts, you will Not see the term HB.

Yeah it was "Howiestern." However, you referred to "better looking" 50-60 year olds. These women are only "better looking" compared to 70-80 year olds.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

If there's an epidemic of single women, it's by their own doing.

The above statement is true. Women have more choices generally speaking in the marketplace, but obviously you still have to compete against the other people in the market, no matter what kind of individuals the market consists of. In other words value in the market is RELATIVE. Always has been, always will be, no matter where you are. Supply and demand rules the dating market just as it rules any other market.

the problem is women have no understanding of what putting effort into finding a mate is because they never have to do it. They just put on some makeup and wait for men, then complain when their selections aren't 8/10's when they're a 6/10.

This is especially true of top tier women in the looks department. However, sensible women do learn (wiser ones sooner than less wise ones) that as a woman you must bring MORE than looks to the table to keep the most desirable men engaged/interested. That is because for the small subset of very desirable men, looks are a commodity. So is sexual access. In other words the top tier men have no issue getting hot, beautiful women to have sex with them. But it takes more than looks and sex to interest such a desirable man in a relationship. The very best women are taught this concept at home and are raised with the understanding that you need to bring more to the table than a pretty face and a sexy body. And so they bring more to the table. And those women are locked down fast by great guys, so you aren't going to see many un-paired out there in the wilds of the dating landscape.

I bet she's never thought about how she adds value to a guys life yet expects the best of men.

Again, there is a very small subset of women who are indeed the total package. They are snatched up and locked down quickly and usually for life. So it isn't really a surprise that many men have never seen such a woman. They are rare to begin with and they only accept the top tier men as potential mates. Just as top tier men only accept beautiful, nice women who add value to his life as potential mates.

when hot women are single it’s usually out of choice because they’re tired of wasting time on an “average” guy and are holding out for a higher quality guy.

Or rather than be "tired" of average, they hold out for the best, particularly if they themselves have a great deal to offer. Water always seeks its own level. Dating is no exception.

The pool of attractive men from any perspective is ridiculously shallow. Tons of drug addicts, videogame addicts, potheads, methheads, school dropouts, unemployed, no direction, minimum wage job, fat, don't shower, it's endless.

The dating pool for the top tier women is quite small compared to the general population. However it does exist and it has it's own abundance. High value people of either gender are in the sought after minority. However they gravitate to each other, and abundance exists within that subset for both high value men and women.

But you are conflating two different things. The market segments you are associating NEVER associate with one another, but your comment appears to assert that they do.

Let me explain: I never run into drug addicts, potheads, school drop outs and the like as all the descriptors you use in your quote describe losers and loser behavior. I don't associate with losers and I don't go where the unsuccessful, lazy, or mediocre congregate. I go where successful high value people go because that is what I am. Losers don't go where I go, and I don't go where losers go, therefore losers and I rarely cross paths, and if we do, I quickly weed out losers. In the same way high value men quickly weed out substandard women.

So one thing to consider is who you are hanging around. If you hang around losers you are a loser. If you hang around successful people chances are high that you are yourself successful.

None of this is news folks. This is why SS preaches becoming your best self. It increases your options in all aspects of your life, dating and women being but one aspect of a good life.